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Phone and computer from China, clothes made in third world sweatshops, porno open in another tab and I'm high on Cartel drugs, but god damned if I'm not morally superior to all other life forms because I have the right kinds of opinions.
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a lot of people are just not very smart or talented. should they just be cursed to a lovely life with no dignity? because that's the way it is now. we need to have meaningful social roles that confer a bit of dignity and security for people who aren't dynamic innovators or computer geniuses, people who are actually maybe a little bit dumb. thats what manufacturing and unions used to do, but those are gone forever; we need to find a new way. this scratch and claw your way to the top or die trying stuff is no good.
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May 26, 2016 23:31
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id join the military but they don't let tr*nnies in so i'm kind of hosed
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May 26, 2016 23:32
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Roylicious posted:Don't worry if the country's economy sucks you can always sign up to enforce the economic imperialism of your betters by occupying foreign lands! quote:This is an especial 'gently caress you' to people with degrees because it's not like there are an unlimited number of officer positions available but alright.
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May 26, 2016 23:33
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Pretty much. There will always be a bottom rung no matter how equitable society is or how easy it is to move up/down based on merit. There's no reason it has to suck so much to be there.reptileintheswamp posted:Economic imperialism is pretty cool IMO and we should do more of it I'm not personally complaining about anything, I'm doing fine. Calling social mobility an obscure statistic in response to what I'm saying is kind of ridiculous though.
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May 26, 2016 23:33
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reptileintheswamp posted:The military paid me to learn actually cool poo poo, and when I ETS real soon I'll do the same job as a civilian. I got paid to learn a trade, paid to take college classes, and am being further rewarded with more free college after I'm done. Where does being naive come into play? All those are the good reasons to do it. Jingoistic 'greater good, cause greater than one's self' is the naive part.
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May 26, 2016 23:34
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Roylicious posted:Pretty much. There will always be a bottom rung no matter how equitable society is or how easy it is to move up/down based on merit. There's no reason it has to suck so much to be there. Poor whites are not even the bottom rung.
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May 26, 2016 23:34
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reptileintheswamp posted:The fact that you're probably a fully grown adult and think this way is the funniest thing of all Service is voluntary. Dying for Trump is a choice...a very bad one but still a voluntary choice.
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May 26, 2016 23:35
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We should all give our lives to the glory of the god-emperor of man.
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May 26, 2016 23:37
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Roylicious posted:Reality is harsh, get over it. Oh, so now you agree with me?
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May 27, 2016 00:13
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VendaGoat posted:Oh, so now you agree with me? I agree that the world sucks and we should collectively try to make it better as a society so we can be more stable prosperous and secure, yes. I liked your vending machine 
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May 27, 2016 00:15
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Society is a huge, unquantifiable improvement in the quality of human life compared to what the world had on offer.
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May 27, 2016 00:16
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Roylicious posted:I liked your vending machine  Someone paid  to publicly shame me. That money could have been used for any number of other more self, or otherwise, beneficiary endeavor. Instead, it was squandered on an act of futile frustration on an internet comedy forum.This is a metaphor for this thread
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May 27, 2016 00:18
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can we talk about how people still join the military because they believe they're serving their country, and not because it's the most prominent path to becoming a part of the rich, christian, conservative ruling class?
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May 27, 2016 00:23
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Roylicious posted:we should collectively try to make it better as a society why even b
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May 27, 2016 00:23
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I'm still monitoring this thread, yes
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May 27, 2016 00:24
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reptileintheswamp posted:In high school/college I was pretty much as far left as one can be without getting onto a watchlist. Did edgy poo poo like not standing for the morning pledge of allegiance, and stuff like that. what did you do in the military
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May 27, 2016 00:33
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Do you still have to go through basic training and meet physical fitness requirements to be a non combatant/support staff in the military? Say I was a radio communications engineer.
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May 27, 2016 00:41
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Had a friend join the usmc and he came out with anger issues and a (worse)drinking problem. Do we have to be subjected to being yelled at and "follow this encyclopedia of rules or your life is hosed" in order to succeed?
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down n out posted:Had a friend join the usmc and he came out with anger issues and a (worse)drinking problem. Do we have to be subjected to being yelled at and "follow this encyclopedia of rules or your life is hosed" in order to succeed? Actually yeah that's pretty much how it works in most careers
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May 27, 2016 00:45
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down n out posted:Had a friend join the usmc and he came out with anger issues and a (worse)drinking problem. Do we have to be subjected to being yelled at and "follow this encyclopedia of rules or your life is hosed" in order to succeed? No, of course you don't have to follow prescribed ways of doing things. It's just more difficult. An analogy would be; you can go to school, learn a thing before doing it or you can just start doing it. One path is just more difficult then the other.
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there is a lot of dumb bullshit in the military and it really sucks sometimes, but you'll get treated better than some minimum wage retail poo poo job. Just do your three years, get out, go to college debt free. I was a recruiter for the Army, and if anyone has any legitimate questions about joining pm me. I'll give it to you as straight as I can, though everyone's experiences may vary. I'm not on numbers or even in the army so I have no interest in helping the Army out. I really don't even like like it that much! That being said it has put me in a better position to succeed in life than without it. I did 12 years in the army and never killed anyone or any of that poo poo. At the end of the day its just a job with haircuts and uniforms, and lots of really dumb people telling you what to do, but unless you're just a belligerent idiot its incredibly easy to stay out of trouble. I'm going to regret this
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:I did 12 years in the army and never killed anyone or any of that poo poo. I worked as a pharmacy tech for 3 years but never prescribed anyone medication they didn't need
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May 27, 2016 00:57
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I make 60k a year, moved out on my own, and thanks to student loans I'll be check to check for the next 20 years and my son won't have a college fund! Although, hopefully by then he'll be some sort of hyper soldier or something and won't need college. 60k a year used to be not bad, you could save, pay your loans with outrageous interest, and put money away. It's definitely the cost of living/wage gap that's not keeping up, and as long as there isn't a violent revolution, it will continue to be this way
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May 27, 2016 01:16
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reptileintheswamp posted:loving iPhone, thanks for pointing out the typo though. If I'm going to join the military I'd rather join Diamond Dogs and be trained by Big Boss than your pissant unit.
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interwhat posted:I make 60k a year, moved out on my own, and thanks to student loans I'll be check to check for the next 20 years and my son won't have a college fund! Although, hopefully by then he'll be some sort of hyper soldier or something and won't need college. Willing to say where you live?
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May 27, 2016 01:39
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roymorrison posted:what did you do in the military http://youtubedoubler.com/iqO4
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interwhat posted:I make 60k a year, moved out on my own, and thanks to student loans I'll be check to check for the next 20 years and my son won't have a college fund! Although, hopefully by then he'll be some sort of hyper soldier or something and won't need college. What were your loans? Do you have a family? 60k is a lot for a single person.
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noctambulous nebab posted:What were your loans? Do you have a family? 60k is a lot for a single person. lol whaaaaattt
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Mange Mite posted:lol whaaaaattt I had money to spend on 30k in a west coast city. Are you serious?
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noctambulous nebab posted:I had money to spend on 30k in a west coast city. Are you serious? Are you? 30k?
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Mange Mite posted:Are you? 30k? Almost nothing but you could get by, and I knew others who did as well. Roommates, lady friends with jobs, selling drugs, everyone had a way to get by. 30k was enough for bills flat in a small apartment.
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Unless you have crippling loans (totally a possibility), loving lol at $5000 a month not being enough for one person to live like a sultan anywhere that isn't LA/NY/DC/SF area.
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bloodysabbath posted:Unless you have crippling loans (totally a possibility), loving lol at $5000 a month not being enough for one person to live like a sultan anywhere that isn't LA/NY/DC/SF area. I mean how are you going to save anything if you youre using 5000 a month
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May 27, 2016 02:23
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Mange Mite posted:I mean how are you going to save anything if you youre using 5000 a month
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I feel bad for your friend that's all Thanks guys for giving me a little perspective
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Mange Mite posted:I feel bad for your friend Me too. He lost his eye around the time I left the city. Life really sucks.
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VendaGoat posted:Willing to say where you live? Sure, I actually just moved to central Ohio from south of Washington, D.C., aka southern Maryland. Part of the reason was to get out of moms place, we had retreated BACK when we became with child, which was also really necessary since he was 2 months premature(doing awesome now). We moved out here to Ohio since the lady has family here so we weren't too detached from family. But basically a 2 bedroom anywhere where in MD save for the absolute boonies where there aren't jobs, will cost you at a minimum $1200 monthly, without utilities, and likely still increasing. Our 2 bedroom townhouse, at 1000 sq ft, costs us less than $900.00 including water. We could sit here and do my budget here, but the fact of the matter is, poo poo is already tight, and if you got suckered into a for profit college to pursue your dreams, you're actually way worse off than people that didn't and got into a trade. I went to culinary school since I had been cooking for 5 years, got hosed, realized I was getting hosed and dropped out, now I pay $800/month at 19% interest,, and am actually behind because I would rather have food in my fridge, and the dream of having great credit and buying that beautiful so called asset of a house is fading. I once was a chef, but things change, and if I hadn't dropped everything, started changing oil at a car dealership, utilized manufacturer training and sheer god drat drive to learn, I wouldn't be a qualified technician making a career out of servicing high end cars. I would probably still be another 10 years out on making 60k in the cooking world. It's a rough industry. Now yes, definitely my choice to sign up for said nonsense arts college, but what's particularly lovely, is if something were to happen to me, injury, death etc, that debt goes directly to my consigner, dearest mother. Now check this poo poo out, if at the time I was signing the promissory note for a massive private education loan, that person was like "hey listen, you need a consigner, and this poo poo is expensive, and if you don't get a ballin rear end chef job, you and your mom are going to be on the hook big time, maybe reconsider.." I would probably have gone home and put some serious thought into what I was getting into, and maybe would have gone with a safer plan. INSTEAD, said person was like "dude I can't believe you haven't signed up yet, by the time you're done here, you're gonna be a sous chef making the big monies, plus FAFSA dog, they're gonna give you money n poo poo, shits gonna be baller!" That in a nutshell, is what's wrong with the system. As for the "millennials" op speaks of, I would probably just blame their parents. Edit: also the old lady did the exact same thing, at the exact same school, it's where we met! Lol
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What also sucks, as a auto tech you get paid by work performed. So in essence, he more cars you fix or service, the more money you make. You do not get paid to be there(in most cases). So these other Podunk mechanics I work with do half as much work, often shoddily, but have cool cars, houses and other toys and just love to flaunt them, thanks to them not pursuing any education beyond highschool. I feel as if I have been punished for doing what I was told to do throughout highschool by everyone.
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noctambulous nebab posted:What were your loans? Do you have a family? 60k is a lot for a single person. Oh boy, if I were single! It would all be easy street my man. you work for Navient or something?
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