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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
I have been to DC and New York

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Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Roger Craig posted:

It's because it's much more profitable for drug companies to put out dick pill ads and crank out antidepressants which people will be taking for the rest of their lives, instead of putting R&D into something that people only use for 10 days once every few years.

I applaud your cynicism, but I've heard that the problem with developing new antibiotics is that there are only so many ways to kill bacterial cells without killing host cells. Killing them is easy, chlorine bleach will kill most bacteria. So will fire. Or nail polish. All kinds of things kill bacteria.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Mumpy Puffinz posted:

I have been to DC and New York

Are you ded?

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Facebook Aunt posted:

Are you ded?

no. I would like to see them again

Blood Shart
Sep 23, 2010

Zika is the second phase of Agenda 21 population control. Now that automation has rendered many people useless the elite need to kill them off/prevent them from breeding in order to avoid future revolts. Just LOL if you think Zika will ever affect a wealthy white family.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Facebook Aunt posted:

I applaud your cynicism, but I've heard that the problem with developing new antibiotics is that there are only so many ways to kill bacterial cells without killing host cells. Killing them is easy, chlorine bleach will kill most bacteria. So will fire. Or nail polish. All kinds of things kill bacteria.

Also bacteria are like, really good at this evolution poo poo. Plasmids man, they just trade that poo poo back and forth like loving :filez:

Pharmaceuticals are really moving away from the small molecule approach tho, but then, like that other guy said, there's no money in developing new antibiotics (because it's all in cancer and dick drugs)

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

You Are A Elf posted:

No, it's a clear alcoholic drink from the early 90s.

I think vodka's been around a lot longer than 25 years

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

Best Giraffe posted:

Also bacteria are like, really good at this evolution poo poo. Plasmids man, they just trade that poo poo back and forth like loving :filez:

Pharmaceuticals are really moving away from the small molecule approach tho, but then, like that other guy said, there's no money in developing new antibiotics (because it's all in cancer and dick drugs)

There was some research paper I saw a week or so ago where they had a system under which the bacteria/T4 phage viruses in the system could only prosper if they managed to evolve a slightly different shape for some transcription protein. It took them a few thousand generations which turned out to be like 50 days or something lol yeah bacteria are pretty good at evolution.

e: summary of the article if anyone's actually interested

Murray Mantoinette fucked around with this message at 04:25 on May 28, 2016

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Slight protein changes are really easy to evolve and oops! They beat antibiotics.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
This is a really good thread - please don't ruin it with shitposts and report people who do.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Our bodies are already full of bacteria, and most of them are beneficial or harmless. Why can't we train good guy bacteria to beat up bad guy bacteria?

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Her name is Rio, she got Zika from the sand

Just like that pinhead baby with a mud for a brain
And when it tries to cry you've finally had all you can
Oh Rio, Rio took my baby and put it in a garbage can

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
So THAT explains why the red cross wants to know if I've been to northern Queensland recently.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

Facebook Aunt posted:

Our bodies are already full of bacteria, and most of them are beneficial or harmless. Why can't we train good guy bacteria to beat up bad guy bacteria?

Actually, most of the bacteria in your gut is very bad for you anywhere else but your gut.

And they do beat up bad bacteria, mostly in the form of just out-breeding/out-competing them, and by making the intestines a better environment for them and worse for competing species.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
thats just because babies cant read so they have to rely on dubs. tragic.

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
There is ZERO evidence that Zika causes birth defects and the mosquito that carries it does not exist in America.

Don't believe the propaganda that only exists to get billions of dollars of free "research" money.

It's a bonanza.

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.
only a few more years until the grey death surfaces, buy versalife stock

Phlairdon
Apr 15, 2003

If you can't stand up you can't do war!
None of this would've happened if we didn't prosecute Martin Shkreli.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Tectonis posted:

Zika is the second phase of Agenda 21 population control. Now that automation has rendered many people useless the elite need to kill them off/prevent them from breeding in order to avoid future revolts. Just LOL if you think Zika will ever affect a wealthy white family.

tbh a bit of population control wouldnt be so bad

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

Farmland Park posted:

Well, for one, if you go into a Chinese hospital for any reason at all, you will come out with a carrier bag full of antibiotics. I've had doctors trying to prescribe me antibiotics for a loving cold.

It's similar in some Eastern European countries, where some antibiotics are available OTC and pharmacies don't care if it's appropriate treatment or not.

subhuman filth
Nov 1, 2006

I would recommend stocking up on needles and fishhooks to trade with the local children

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

I wonder if Zika babies ever have the eye popping problem like pugs?

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
I thought I heard that the small head issue was a side effect of a chemical that is put into the water meant to dissuade mosquitoes or something. But this chemical is only used in certain south American cuntries and therefore in the grand USA we don't have to worry about that side effect.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

I thought I heard that the small head issue was a side effect of a chemical that is put into the water meant to dissuade mosquitoes or something. But this chemical is only used in certain south American cuntries and therefore in the grand USA we don't have to worry about that side effect.

I, too, believe everything that March Against Monsanto and NaturalNews post.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Glaucus atlanticus posted:

I, too, believe everything that March Against Monsanto and NaturalNews post.

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
I hate everything about China.

Indy
Mar 30, 2005

Hey guys, what's up?

DangerDongs posted:

I hate everything about China.

And India

Oprah
Nov 26, 2015
There is some hope to get new antibiotics. There is this new technology called an isolation chip (Ichip) that can culture soil bacteria that used to be unculturable in a laboratory setting. Some soil bacteria have some pretty nasty antibiotics that kill other bacteria easily. Before the Ichip we could only cultivate 1% of bacteria in a lab setting, so it could possible that this technology will open up access to a lot of new antibiotics. A new antibiotic named teixobactin that can kill MRSA has been already been discovered using this method

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
It begins.

First baby born with Zika-linked microcephaly in New York tri-state area

Doctors at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey confirmed Tuesday the birth of a child suffering from Zika-linked microcephaly, a condition wherein the child's brain and head are partially developed.

The mother, who is 31 but whose name was not disclosed, contracted the Zika virus while in Honduras and was admitted to the emergency room at Hackensack on Friday while vacationing in the United States. Tuesday, doctors delivered her baby girl, who was born also with intestinal and visual issues. Reports indicate she is the first child born with Zika-linked complications in the New York tri-state area.

The child’s mother, who developed a rash for two days in Honduras but had no other symptoms until arriving in the U.S.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/05/31/first-baby-born-with-zika-linked-microcephaly-in-new-york-tri-state-area.html

The W.H.O says this isn't a big deal so don't worry about it.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
good news for the makers of tiny hats among us

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
Of course it is already in the US South because of course it is.

Is it wrong that I don't really care all that much as I don't plan on having kids anyway?

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

Lime Tonics posted:

The W.H.O says this isn't a big deal so don't worry about it.

Oh good :byob1:

Oprah posted:

There is some hope to get new antibiotics. There is this new technology called an isolation chip (Ichip) that can culture soil bacteria that used to be unculturable in a laboratory setting. Some soil bacteria have some pretty nasty antibiotics that kill other bacteria easily. Before the Ichip we could only cultivate 1% of bacteria in a lab setting, so it could possible that this technology will open up access to a lot of new antibiotics. A new antibiotic named teixobactin that can kill MRSA has been already been discovered using this method

iChip is a pretty cool method, but there are some drawbacks (mostly related to antibiotic production in general). While it will allow other, more difficult bacteria to be cultured in a lab, these bacteria may not have any useful antibiotics (either ones that kill stuff like MRSA, or ones that do kill MRSA but are also toxic to humans/pigs/whatever). Still, I'm always torn when I see cool ideas like this or like recombinant phage therapy (using engineered versions of viruses that naturally kill bacteria to... kill bacteria, hopefully without any problems to the host).

On the one hand it's like "wow, cool, we can use these to kill of MRSA." But on the other hand it's like "once China gets ahold of it, bacteria are just going to mutate again to get around it and instead of MRSA, we'll have something-else-RSA in it's place."

Unfortunately I think the better approach now is probably the more draconian policy approach that people have talked about here, where we just don't allow certain... ahem... unnamed countries... to manufacture certain antibiotics so they can't be abused.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

My home state only had 18 Zika cases this month, now disappointing

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
Be the change you want to see in the world/average head size.

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Well this is worrying,

Newly disclosed CDC biolab failures 'like a screenplay for a disaster movie'

"Encased in spacesuit-like gear needed to protect them from the world’s deadliest viruses, four scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stepped into their lab’s decontamination chamber where a shower of chemicals was supposed to kill anything on them and make it safe for them to exit into an adjacent changing room.

But the shower wouldn’t start, and warning lights appeared as a cascading series of safety systems began to fail inside one of the world’s most advanced biosafety level 4 labs. That's the highest level of containment and security, reserved for work with deadly Ebola and smallpox viruses and other pathogens that lack vaccines or reliable treatments.

The gasket seal around the exit door to the changing room deflated to the point that the scientists could see light coming in. And as they held that door shut and started an emergency chemical deluge, things got even worse.

The shower’s door back into the infectious disease lab “forcefully” burst open again and again – and they couldn’t even hold it shut. Meanwhile, air pressure alarms were blinking and monitors displayed the lab as “red,” according to records of the February 2009 incident recently obtained by USA TODAY under a Freedom of Information Act. The CDC took 3 ½ years to fulfill the request."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-newstopstories

Maybe Stephen King wasn't just writing fiction, but the future. The Stand 2016.

Carlos Lantana
Oct 2, 2003
HOLY SHIT I JUST WON'T SHUT UP ABOUT BIRDS IN CAGES. DID YOU KNOW PUTTING BIRDS IN CAGES MAKES YOU LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER? CAUSE IT DOES AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU KNOW. I ALSO WANT YOU TO KISS YOURSELF IF YOU EVER THINK ABOUT PUTTING A BIRD IN A CAGE.
Lol we still have live smallpox on hand.

Could we be any more vile as a species?

Nicomo
Jan 22, 2015
I can't quite believe the Olympics are still going ahead in Rio and even more so that all the athletes, sponsors and spectators are still going. Plus we know drat well that the true extent of the problem is probably a hell of a lot worse than what is reported.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Nicomo posted:

I can't quite believe the Olympics are still going ahead in Rio and even more so that all the athletes, sponsors and spectators are still going. Plus we know drat well that the true extent of the problem is probably a hell of a lot worse than what is reported.

Athletes will be the last to cancel. They train their entire boring lives for this. in 4 years by the time the next rolls around theyll be over the hill and their spot will be taken by some new young thing in their prime

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Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Poliovirus detected in water sample in Hyderabad, Telangana declares ‘global emergency’

The virus was found in a sample taken from the Amberpet sewerage treatment plant on May 17. It was part of a routine surveillance in which 30 samples were collected from various parts of Hyderabad.

The chief programme officer of Telangana’s National Health Mission, Dr G Srinivasa Rao, said they will follow “WHO-set standards” during immunisation programmes. Children between the ages of six weeks to three years will be given additional doses of the injectable polio vaccine, Rao added. Booths will be set up in areas being covered in this campaign, which does not include door-to-door services.

Since January 2014, India has reported at least four occurrences of vaccine-derived polio but here have been no cases of infection from the wild polio virus since January 2012. India was declared polio-free by the World Health Organisation in 2014. However, the vaccine-derived strain must be contained because neighbouring and West Asian countries, which are well connected with Hyderabad, continue to see new cases.

http://scroll.in/latest/809972/poliovirus-detected-in-water-sample-in-hyderabad-telangana-declares-global-emergency

Polios back, well it came back at least 4 times in India.

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