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You started reading Ennis Punisher and you didn't start with Welcome Back Frank?
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Jun 6, 2016 03:20
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I have zoomed through Savage Dragon Archives vol. 1-4 over the last few months (collecting #1-100), and now I'm in the middle of Archives vol. 5 (#101-125). It is inspired and insane, and I'm enjoying the ride more than the majority of Big Two comics I've read in the last decade. But it definitely isn't for everyone. Hey, are these like the Marvel Essential black and white phone book collections? And do you mind if I ask how much they run?
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Jun 6, 2016 03:20
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Rhyno posted:You started reading Ennis Punisher and you didn't start with Welcome Back Frank? That's not MAX, so it won't be in the MAX tpbs.
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Jun 6, 2016 03:22
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Rhyno posted:You started reading Ennis Punisher and you didn't start with Welcome Back Frank?
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Jun 6, 2016 03:25
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BigRed0427 posted:I just finished the first book in Garth Ennis's Punisher Run. (Born, In The Beginning, Kitchen Irish) He didn't specify the MAX run!
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Jun 6, 2016 03:29
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Rhyno posted:He didn't specify the MAX run! 
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Jun 6, 2016 03:30
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redbackground posted:Those are all MAX comics! The first book in Ennis' Punisher run is Welcome Back Frank!
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Jun 6, 2016 03:34
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Hey, are these like the Marvel Essential black and white phone book collections? And do you mind if I ask how much they run? Yeah, they're black and white and about as thick as Marvel Essentials and DC Showcases. Cover prices are $19.99, but the first few are significantly cheaper on Amazon. However, I haven't been buying them. I got the first two Archives volumes as interlibrary loans, and volumes 3-5 are on Hoopla, my public library's free e-book downloading platform. You should see if your library offers access to Hoopla, as they have a huge selection of DC, Image, Valiant, Dark Horse, Archie, IDW, and more... just not Marvel or Fantagraphics.
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Jun 6, 2016 03:36
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Rhyno posted:The first book in Ennis' Punisher run is Welcome Back Frank! 
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Jun 6, 2016 03:40
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Redbackground is showing some next-level mastery in his smilies game tonight.
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Jun 6, 2016 03:49
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Went to a Mark Waid Q&A panel today and he said he read Captain America #2 and said everyone angry about the end of #1 is going to feel like a complete idiot by page 8. Though if they're angry it's probably because they didn't read it, so that may not stand. He also went on a rant about BvS that was fun. Also saw Peter David yesterday and he was fun to listen to.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:00
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I want to know more about the BvS rant. That is exactly the sort of thing I'd want to hear Waid rant about.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:02
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Endless Mike posted:Went to a Mark Waid Q&A panel today and he said he read Captain America #2 and said everyone angry about the end of #1 is going to feel like a complete idiot by page 8. That is a lovely argument. Pretty much saying sure you are angry about something you read but you are an idiot because of something you haven't read yet.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:02
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Mark Waid acting like a petulant baby? Why I never.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:03
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Mark Waid sounds like a cool dude, especially considering it was very clear from what we got in 1 that something was up.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:06
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Toxxupation posted:Mark Waid sounds like a cool dude, especially considering it was very clear from what we got in 1 that something was up. I met Waid. He is fun and is always happy to engage people who genuinely love comics. But he also has opinions and he doesn't care about how he phrases them.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:07
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Madkal posted:That is a lovely argument. Pretty much saying sure you are angry about something you read but you are an idiot because of something you haven't read yet. No, that's not how tenses work you dummy.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:09
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Madkal posted:I met Waid. He is fun and is always happy to engage people who genuinely love comics. But he also has opinions and he doesn't care about how he phrases them. Yea this is about how everyone who's met him seems to fall out. He's a perfectly happy and nice guy but he seemingly has no thought at all at nice ways to put his views or opinions.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:10
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You guys are acting like that's a problem or something instead of it being really entertaining. Because it is very entertaining. I love a good Waid rant.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:13
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea this is about how everyone who's met him seems to fall out. He's a perfectly happy and nice guy but he seemingly has no thought at all at nice ways to put his views or opinions. So he's blunt then. I see absolutely no problems with this. Continuing to believe that Mark Waid is, in fact, a cool dude.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:15
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Yeah, with the kind of poo poo we get from other creators who shall remain nameless (because I don't want to spend ten minutes typing out names,) I can't say I've got a problem with the comic book guy ranting about comic books. It probably helps that I agree with Waid more often than not.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:19
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He is the comic book guy in real life.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:20
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Does he wear prescription pants?
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Jun 6, 2016 04:27
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Chaos Hippy posted:I want to know more about the BvS rant. That is exactly the sort of thing I'd want to hear Waid rant about. I like Mark Waid a lot, honestly, both as a writer and as a person (for as much I only know the persona he shows online and in panels), so I wasn't really trying to be negative about the panel. But yes, as people have said, he is blunt and isn't afraid to burn bridges, but on the other hand, he has no issues with praising something when it's due. EDIT: Not Waid related, but I got to hold a Captain America shield used in the first movie and now I want a nice metal one for myself, but gently caress they are like $500 at least, and I don't want one *that* bad.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:39
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Endless Mike posted:EDIT: Not Waid related, but I got to hold a Captain America shield used in the first movie and now I want a nice metal one for myself, but gently caress they are like $500 at least, and I don't want one *that* bad. There is a full scale copy coming in September for $100. Currently unavailable but that was just the preorder that sold out. http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Legends-Captain-America-Shield/dp/B01B4NLML2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Jun 6, 2016 04:49
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I remember him getting real reactionary about that Harley Quinn bathtub toaster art contest. https://twitter.com/GailSimone/statuses/377278282783535104 e: his replies inside. He had to be told over and over that Palmiotti and Conner were making her a cartoon character.
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Jun 6, 2016 04:50
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I see no problem with not cutting any slack to the company that, to this day, insists that identity crisis was an important and affecting and powerful comic and reflective of the stories they want to tell. Especially when they go "hey draw a woman most well known for being in one of if not the most horrifyingly abusive relationship in comics history TOTALLY NAKED AND COMMITTING SUICIDE DOGS WOO-HOO!" I see absolutely zero problem with doing that. Mark Waid continues to sound like a cool dude.
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Jun 6, 2016 05:32
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Toxxupation posted:I liked Battle For the Cowl. At the very least, it had Dick Grayson beating the unholy poo poo out of Jason Todd, so it's not all bad. Should've just asked us 
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Jun 6, 2016 05:38
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Here's what the suicide page ended up being. Very edgy. Fairly comparable to Killing Joke. e: I know he obviously had no info about the tone of the upcoming series or the creators and just heard a thing and assumed based on what she'd been put in previously. That's fine. But when Gail Simone is telling you she's read it and you're way off base, it's time to relax. e: And Kurt Busiek. "It'd be fine with Dini's Harley. She's obviously a cartoon character." "I've read this. She's a cartoon character." "That's insider info, Gail. Don't take that tone with me." Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 05:41
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Welcome Back Frank isn't bad but it's filled with dumb, cringeworthy Ennis humor that the Max run has thankfully less of.Teenage Fansub posted:I remember him getting real reactionary about that Harley Quinn bathtub toaster art contest. Waid is 100% in the right.
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Jun 6, 2016 06:10
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Funilly enough, it's Bruce Timm who got her naked in the issue. ...Maybe that's obviously enough.
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Jun 6, 2016 06:13
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Teenage Fansub posted:Here's what the suicide page ended up being. I love how boring and static it ended up
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Jun 6, 2016 10:03
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I forgot we had a new thread, so hopefully I haven't missed anything. Anyway, I finally got around to watching Man-Thing and it wasn't that bad. I mean, I have a huge range for these things because I literally started a club for watching terribly made movies, but overall it was like the best swamp-based horror movie I've ever seen. A full list of gripes would be: 1. Swamp Thing never burns anybody. 2. He kills the only character who doesn't fear him. and the general gripe that is either your native characters have an intimate association with the land and know more about it than the plundering whites, or they don't. These kind of mystical horrors always like to have their cake by exploiting native myths or involving native seer characters and then oh wow they get themselves killed because they naively think their prayers and rituals do or mean anything to a thing they literally have myths and legends about controlling. It's more insulting than just pretending they don't exist because you're making it an active plot point that their beliefs are bullshit. On a scale of Anaconda to Howard the Duck it rated a Didn't Develop Alcohol Poisoning From Drinking Every Time Howard Was Creepy Or Made A Duck Pun.
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Jun 6, 2016 11:24
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CharlestheHammer posted:He is the comic book guy in real life. Except for the part where he is legitimately, extremely talented and successful in the medium he's criticizing
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Jun 6, 2016 12:40
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Travis343 posted:Except for the part where he is legitimately, extremely talented and successful in the medium he's criticizing That's true of Comic Book Guy too.
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Jun 6, 2016 14:09
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So I finished Morrison's pre-New 52 Batman run (ending with Batman, Inc volume 1). I feel like the strongest part of his run was from Batman and Son through The Black Glove and Batman R.I.P. (R.I.P. is, in my opinion, the absolute best bat-story Morrison's ever written), with The Black Casebook for necessary context. Those three stories form a really neat arc, and everything after is...distinctly lesser. Final Crisis is pretty confusing and very, very convoluted, Batman 700-702 were all really fantastic stories but felt like a sort of band-aid posthumously explaining the more opaque elements of Batman's story in Final Crisis, so kind of suffered as a result. Batman and Robin actually was distinctly lighter, so that was nice - and Damian's growth as a Robin is really fun to read. The Return of Bruce Wayne I still don't exactly get as a story, but the payoff for both it and Batman and Robin with the Joker/Thomas Wayne reveals was pretty great. And finally, I think Batman, Incorporated was just kind of a mess from top to bottom, this really confusing and convoluted mess that doesn't really end satisfyingly or feel that significant outside of the Leviathan stuff, which kind of comes out of nowhere as suddenly The Most Important Deal. Also that cyberspace issue of Batman, Inc was loving trash.
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Jun 6, 2016 20:44
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Rhyno posted:There is a full scale copy coming in September for $100. It's also plastic.
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Jun 6, 2016 21:37
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Toxxupation posted:I think Batman, Incorporated was just kind of a mess from top to bottom Aww. Not even the Japan and Native American team stories? I remember being a little confused about the Batwoman history stuff and Spyral as the issues were coming out, but Inc vol1 is the height for me. Yanick Paquette is great.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:30
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My favorite issue of Batman Inc is where he goes to Japan with Catwoman and lets her steal some incredibly priceless antlantean diamonds because they melt when taken out of the water so she didn't steal anything after all. Yeah I'm sure the owner of those things is super thrilled you let her melt his priceless artifacts there Batman. It's not stealing if you destroy the thing you stole, right?
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Jun 6, 2016 22:33
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Endless Mike posted:It's also plastic. So were lots of the ones Evans used in the film!
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Jun 6, 2016 22:34
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