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Just wanted to emptyquote that picture because it's don moves as gently caress
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Jun 4, 2016 18:59
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https://twitter.com/matthewacherry/status/739154386287394816
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Jun 4, 2016 19:05
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He truly was The Greatest. RIP Champ.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:25
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Dexo posted:Yeah my bad, I got suckered in. Remember when I said Ali was the greatest athlete ever and you said "Duh" and how it wasn't even a debate How innocent we were then. How naive. I have spent all day just thinking about how loving awesome Ali is.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:26
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The crazy thing about Ali winning the title three times is that he pretty much did it while fighting a murderer's row of heavyweights in the 1960's and 70's: Sonny Liston Joe Frazier Ken Norton George Foreman Floyd Patterson Hell he even whooped up on Archie Moore at the end of Moore's career.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:27
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Crazy Ted posted:The crazy thing about Ali winning the title three times is that he pretty much did it while fighting a murderer's row of heavyweights in the 1960's and 70's: And that he did most of it in his 30s
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Jun 4, 2016 19:30
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Dexo posted:Yeah my bad, I got suckered in. Never saw this before. Ali was awesome.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:32
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Jun 4, 2016 19:33
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I imagine Muhammad Ali and Anderson Silva trying to punch each other would be the closest we could ever get to a perpetual motion machine
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Jun 4, 2016 19:34
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The worst thing Ali ever did was agree to "fight" Antonio Inoki. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Antonio_Inoki It was one of the worst fights I've ever seen and pretty much was the beginning of the end for him because of all the damage done to his legs. You can watch this if you want, but it's quite dull. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3vOssizwW4
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Jun 4, 2016 19:39
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My dad was big into boxing when he was a kid/teen in the 60s/70s and he was all about Ali, Frazier, etc. About a decade ago we were hanging out and channel surfing, and we came across the Rumble in the Jungle on ESPN Classic. To that point I'd only known George Foreman as the jolly old guy who fought when I was a kid and now sold grills, so when we were flipping channels and saw a young, mean Foreman boxing Ali, I was like "what the poo poo is this?" Pops said "oh we gotta watch this, you'll love it!" It was still the first or second round, so we watched basically the entire fight. I had no idea how it ended at the time, so when Ali popped George in the 8th I was like "HOOOOOLY poo poo!" and Pops hollered like he was a kid again, just like "BOOM!" on that last punch. Awesome fight.
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Jun 4, 2016 19:59
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Jun 4, 2016 21:05
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There are so many phenomenal Ali shots.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:07
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AsInHowe posted:There are so many phenomenal Ali shots. Dude for real.   
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Jun 4, 2016 21:23
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Posting from the Louisville area to say Ali owned.
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Jun 4, 2016 21:43
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Hotline MuAli
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Jun 4, 2016 21:54
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Ali's funeral will be Friday afternoon. For some reason, Bill Clinton is the first person confirmed to be speaking.
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Jun 4, 2016 22:06
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Crazy Ted posted:Ali's funeral will be Friday afternoon. For some reason, Bill Clinton is the first person confirmed to be speaking. Bill Clinton will be doing the eulogy.
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Jun 4, 2016 22:33
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Shine posted:My dad was big into boxing when he was a kid/teen in the 60s/70s and he was all about Ali, Frazier, etc. About a decade ago we were hanging out and channel surfing, and we came across the Rumble in the Jungle on ESPN Classic. To that point I'd only known George Foreman as the jolly old guy who fought when I was a kid and now sold grills, so when we were flipping channels and saw a young, mean Foreman boxing Ali, I was like "what the poo poo is this?" Pops said "oh we gotta watch this, you'll love it!" It was still the first or second round, so we watched basically the entire fight. I had no idea how it ended at the time, so when Ali popped George in the 8th I was like "HOOOOOLY poo poo!" and Pops hollered like he was a kid again, just like "BOOM!" on that last punch. Awesome fight. When We Were Kings is a good documentary about that fight. edit: there's a sick shot of sand leaking out the dent Foreman left in a heavy bag.
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Jun 4, 2016 23:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOKhqYMjXj8 Boxing's been good to me, Howard Now I'm told, "you're growing old" The whole time you knew A couple of years I'd be through Has boxing been good to you?
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Jun 5, 2016 00:29
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CBC opened Hockey Night In Canada's broadcast of Game 3 of the Stanley Cup FInal with an awesome Ali montage, and seven minutes of Gretzky on Ali. Wayne talked about meeting him, and his role in sports history, between skill and charisma. According to Gretzky, the two greatest athletes he ever saw were Ali and Jordan, and Ali was the greatest athlete he ever saw. No question about it. Wonderful segment.
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Jun 5, 2016 00:49
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My uncle got his fifteen minutes of fame by calling Howard Cosell during a live broadcast pretending to be Muhammad Ali. I guess ABC tried to deny it was a prank by saying it REALLY was Ali that called Cosell, my uncle however had recorded the entire conversation. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2209&dat=19741108&id=P6QrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tvwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3659,1665992&hl=en
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Jun 5, 2016 01:46
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I wonder where boxing historians put Ali on their list of greats. Joe Louis seems to be Ali's best competition for #1. Tyson was great but he fell apart in a way that Neither Ali or Louis did. Jack Johnson got cheated out of some level of greatness simply because the times weren't right for it.
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Darth Brooks posted:I wonder where boxing historians put Ali on their list of greats. Joe Louis seems to be Ali's best competition for #1. Tyson was great but he fell apart in a way that Neither Ali or Louis did. Jack Johnson got cheated out of some level of greatness simply because the times weren't right for it. E: Now that I think about it, he will float around the edge of top 5. boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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Darth Brooks posted:I wonder where boxing historians put Ali on their list of greats. Joe Louis seems to be Ali's best competition for #1. Tyson was great but he fell apart in a way that Neither Ali or Louis did. Jack Johnson got cheated out of some level of greatness simply because the times weren't right for it. For purely boxing things pound for pound Sugar Ray Robinson is usually the go to #1. Here's a list from Ring Magazine before they sold out, they have Ali at #3 in the last 80 years (last 80 years from 2002). I'd think any serious list would have him top 5, and it's about impossible to put him outside of the top 10. Right or wrong Tyson is viewed way down the list because the Heavyweight division was pretty bad in his prime, same will happen with the Klitschkos.
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Jun 5, 2016 02:47
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Dont think this has been mentioned yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Sonny_Liston Easily the best Wikipedia article I've ever read. The twists and shocking turns just keep piling on
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Ali must be the most talented athlete physical wise right? I mean Wilt's gotta be up there or tied with him but I can't think of a single person who displayed such insane motor and physical fitness.
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Jun 5, 2016 04:30
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Among dogs, Air Bud was a talented fellow whose talents have never been seem in another. Gotta be in the discussion. Also, Willie Mays was an athletic freak.
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Doltos posted:Ali must be the most talented athlete physical wise right? I mean Wilt's gotta be up there or tied with him but I can't think of a single person who displayed such insane motor and physical fitness. Bo fur pure athleticism before he got hurt? So much of Bo's story has gotten to mythological status that it's hard to judge. From what I understand Ali could do things no one had ever seen from a guy that big. His footwork early on looks pretty amazing to me (not that I really know, but just from watching old videos and looking at the other guys who were very highly thought of). He doesn't even sound big by today's standards, but I bet he'd be a lot bigger with modern training methods.
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Doltos posted:Ali must be the most talented athlete physical wise right? I mean Wilt's gotta be up there or tied with him but I can't think of a single person who displayed such insane motor and physical fitness. Wilt and Thorpe are 1 and 2 and it's by a pretty big margin
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Jun 5, 2016 04:42
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Metapod posted:Wilt and Thorpe are 1 and 2 and it's by a pretty big margin The thing about Ali, for me, is that his % of time spent playing vs time spent looking amazing is like 10x as high as anyone else. Wilt looked unstoppable, but there were a lot of times in his last seasons where he was just drawing coverage and passing. Plus Russel had his number in the playoffs again and again and again. Every Ali fight I watch, he's doing his crazy footwork, insane dodges, and sharp mental game like 1-5 times per minute. From 22-40 he's doing it in some regard constantly. I'm just floored at how he was a walking highlight reel. There's not enough footage of guys from pre-1960 though: Ruth, Owens, Thorpe, Brown, for me to ever be able to know about them.
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Doltos posted:Ali must be the most talented athlete physical wise right? I mean Wilt's gotta be up there or tied with him but I can't think of a single person who displayed such insane motor and physical fitness. Babe Didrikson 
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AsInHowe posted:He really was the Greatest.
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AsInHowe posted:He really was the Greatest.
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Metapod posted:Wilt and Thorpe are 1 and 2 and it's by a pretty big margin Russell Westbrook
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Drunk Nerds posted:The thing about Ali, for me, is that his % of time spent playing vs time spent looking amazing is like 10x as high as anyone else. Those are very solid points about Ali but here's the greatest thing about wilt he did whatever he wanted because he could. During his later years the newspapers would question if he could still be a dominant scorer then wilt would go on a tear for a game or two then go back to passing lol. Dude beat magic johnson in a pickup game in '79 (source magic johnson) and the nets wanted to sign him in the 80s. Really wished the wilt Ali fight would have happened. Also lmao at Russell having his number Russell played on an all star team with the only good coach at the time and wilt still averaged a 20 20. For Thorpe he pretty much was the most athletic guy during his era and dominated whatever sport he wanted to play at the highest level Ross Angeles posted:Russell Westbrook I'm waiting to see how his body holds up in his 30s from all the crashing to ground to make that claim E: gently caress it I'm going deeper into the wilt hole. Wilt won track and field competitions at Kansas without practicing and literally just showing up, was an all time volleyball player, played for the globetrotters, lifted weights at weight that makes the strongest do a double take, and had incredible endurance. All of that while being 7+ ft tall and around 270-300+ pounds and had a very poor strength and conditioning program Metapod fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jun 5, 2016 |
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Metapod posted:Wilt and Thorpe are 1 and 2 and it's by a pretty big margin Jim Thorpe? Is there even footage of him playing? Grittybeard posted:Bo fur pure athleticism before he got hurt? So much of Bo's story has gotten to mythological status that it's hard to judge. Bo's feet were insanely quick and he had incredible upper body strength. Same with Wilt. Ali's conditioning was probably on par with both of them but his coordination sets him apart. I guess Jordan also can stake a claim in that department and probably a bunch of other modern day basketball players. Lawrence Taylor was also an underrated athlete as was some other boxers during Ali's era. Jim Brown should be up there in the domination department and random guy: Ladanian Tomlinson. Guy had such superb balance and coordinated strength. Either way Ali straight up made a joke of his competition. Rewatching all his fights its insane to see how lightning quick his punches were and how bruises just suddenly appeared all over guys faces. Like you think he's just jabbing guys but those hits are landing like freight trains.
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Doltos posted:Jim Thorpe? Is there even footage of him playing? If there is it would be really bad quality but if you want I can look for some tomorrow when I get home. Thorpe won the pentathlon and decathlon in the 1912 Olympics and did so in dominate fashion (like won the decathlon by 800 points)
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