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Cojawfee posted:I really hope it's games for grandma.
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Cojawfee posted:I really hope it's games for grandma. I don't see how there's any other choice.
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Cojawfee posted:I really hope it's games for grandma.
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Shoehead posted:This is Games for Grandma's year I can taste it  Games for Grandma
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My mom is a grandma. All she does all day is play games on her tablet. She play slot machine games and click on the picture games.
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Cojawfee posted:I really hope it's games for grandma.
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Megabound posted:Tom Francis did a video series on making your first game with no experience. This is awesome and I spent all last night and most of today following along. I'm now super excited to make my first game for grandma.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:22
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Expect more greatness from the mind behind award winning titles such as Truck Simul8or and Murder Death Chill.
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Does anyone actually like Games for Grandma as a non-joke or are we just emptyquoting it because it's funny? Because, seriously, gently caress that theme.
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Jun 15, 2016 21:35
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blastron posted:Because, seriously, gently caress that theme.
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Team Adorable Animals would love to pair up with someone that has level design experience or art skills. Buffis posted:Expect more greatness from the mind behind award winning titles such as Truck Simul8or and Murder Death Chill. Both solid submissions. We'll get you this year.  blastron posted:Does anyone actually like Games for Grandma as a non-joke or are we just emptyquoting it because it's funny? I'm actually cool with that or terrible tie-ins. I'm not sure what I'd do about the lizard brain theme.
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blastron posted:Does anyone actually like Games for Grandma as a non-joke or are we just emptyquoting it because it's funny? Ban this sick filth
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I want the lizard thing to win.
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Team Dogpit is back in the house, leaner and meaner than ever. I unironically like Games for Grandma as a theme, gently caress haters.
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I've already got an idea percolating for GfG, but tie-ins feels like there could be gold in it.
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dupersaurus posted:I've already got an idea percolating for GfG, but tie-ins feels like there could be gold in it. I had an idea for GfG that I didn't get to use and was bummed about. I'm drawing a blank on both Lizard Brain and TTI.
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blastron posted:Does anyone actually like Games for Grandma as a non-joke or are we just emptyquoting it because it's funny? You don't have to literally make a game for old people with that theme; A game with a old woman as the protagonist, A game themed around death or birth or both, A game themed about a stereotypical retirement task, like gardening, gambling, whatever. Or you could just make a game for old people. Lot of room.
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blastron posted:Because, seriously, gently caress that theme.
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Rob Filter posted:You don't have to literally make a game for old people with that theme; It does say in the rules that its going to be more strict this year about sticking to the theme. If the theme is Games for Grandma, it does literally mean a game for a grandma. If it was Grandma Games the looser interpretation would make sense.
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Yeah, the grandma theme seems to have the greatest potential for varied entries, whereas tie-ins could be quite limited (especially given the rules) and the lizard brain theme while hilarious might leave people scratching their heads for how to actually tackle it. Games for grandma instantly makes me think of a bunch of possibilities, but I just draw a blank when contemplating how I'd approach the other two themes.
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SUNKOS posted:tie-ins could be quite limited I disagree - think of all the movies and commercial products that exist that don't have game tie-ins. There's a huge range of a terrible ideas! 27 Dresses : The Video Game Yankee Candle Pokemon etc. SUNKOS posted:(especially given the rules) How so?
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Is there a video game development general thread? Couldn't find one in Games (you'd think it would be stickied) and I can't imagine where else it might be.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Is there a video game development general thread? Couldn't find one in Games (you'd think it would be stickied) and I can't imagine where else it might be. check the caverns of cobol, the subforum in the serious software hardware forum.
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Alterian posted:It does say in the rules that its going to be more strict this year about sticking to the theme. If the theme is Games for Grandma, it does literally mean a game for a grandma. If it was Grandma Games the looser interpretation would make sense. quote:Adherence to theme will be more strictly judged and have a larger impact on a game’s ability to win in any category. Sounds more like adherence to theme will be handled like a percentage modifier. So even if you made the perfect game, not having any grandmas or grandma themes might net you zero in every category. So Grandma Olympics are totally fine.
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Rob Filter posted:check the caverns of cobol, the subforum in the serious software hardware forum. Ahh that would do it
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Kind of tired of the whole grandma shtick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb9QE_QZb_g
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It seems a little bit like maybe we need a quick/simple 'ok/not ok' example table of things since, with the rule changes & just having first time players in general, it might be hard to gauge if an idea they have is acceptable. 'Don't use stuff you don't have the copyright for' has a lot of interpretations, especially wrt tie in games, but this isn't a new rule and we've had eg life alert, batman, ET, etc linked/inspired games which were? all considered fine and within the spirit of of the jam. There obviously is going to have been a conversation held in a dark back room somewhere about the rules, and sometimes the exact spirit of a rule can get lost when it's compressed down into a couple of lines. Like, people are saying here, they think theme adherence is going to be way stricter because of the new rule about it, but, what actually inspired this rule? There are probably some (rightfully unnamed) examples of games in previous jams that were felt to be a bit too far from the theme, but, without being privvy to the back room context, it's hard to say where that line is being implied to be, so people are worrying if their interpretation of the theme is acceptable.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Ahh that would do it The Making Games Megathread is usually the most active gamedev hub, though.
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Mastigophoran posted:It seems a little bit like maybe we need a quick/simple 'ok/not ok' example table of things since, with the rule changes & just having first time players in general, it might be hard to gauge if an idea they have is acceptable. 'Don't use stuff you don't have the copyright for' has a lot of interpretations, especially wrt tie in games, but this isn't a new rule and we've had eg life alert, batman, ET, etc linked/inspired games which were? all considered fine and within the spirit of of the jam. There obviously is going to have been a conversation held in a dark back room somewhere about the rules, and sometimes the exact spirit of a rule can get lost when it's compressed down into a couple of lines. That rule is there to stop people from lifting assets from commercial games and using them, like using Mortal Kombat sprites, or a 3D model of Waluigi, or having 'Down With the Sickness' by Disturbed play on your main menu. I'll clarify the rule on the site now.
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Hidden Asbestos posted:I disagree - think of all the movies and commercial products that exist that don't have game tie-ins. There's a huge range of a terrible ideas! I was going by the rule about no copyrighted material so my interpretation would be that movies and commercial products would be a no-go because of that, but JonTerp has since clarified that the rule specifically refers to taking assets from commercial games so it was evidently a misinterpretation on my end.
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Thanks for the clarification; terrible tie-ins sounds a lot more fun now.
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Rob Filter posted:You don't have to literally make a game for old people with that theme; Oh, I know, I already gave the theme a lot of thought when it came up last year. It was by far my least favorite of last year's three, which is why I'm not pleased that it's come back as something other than a joke. When it comes to game jam themes, I like themes that have strong influence on the design of a game. A good theme is one that you can convey with pure game-mechanical design: a game should still feel like it was built for the theme, even if you take away almost all of its graphics and sound. Bad themes, on the other hand, are ones where you can take literally any game and smear a wad of gimmick on top of it. "Games For Grandma" is a bad theme. If it were restricted to literally "Games Targeted At Grandmas", then it would be okay. Then, you'd have to actually either design a game aimed at people who don't interact much with modern user interfaces or base a game around a stereotypical grandmother activity. Based on conversations over the past year, though, it's pretty obvious that the theme is going to be interpreted as just "Grandma", which means it can be applied literally to any game as long as you apply enough gray hair and wrinkles. It's Excite Bike, but with wheelchairs! It's Phoenix Wright, but about dementia, not lawyers! It's Mario, but you're bringing baked goods to your granddaughter! There's not even any constraint as to what kind of game you can make at all. No matter how tenuous the connection is, after all, you can just play it up for laughs! "Our Lizard Brain Goes Into Overdrive", on the other hand, is entirely about mechanics, and is one of my favorite theme ideas to have come out of a game jam in recent years. Our lizard brain is in charge of instinct, danger, and most importantly adrenaline. Games are an excellent way to tap into that part of our brain, and a fundamental part of being a good game designer is being able to master the flow of tension within your game. This theme would test the raw game-making fundamentals of the participants. Does your designer have the chops to create mechanics that toy with a player's primal urges? Do your artist and sound engineer have the skill to set the right mood for those mechanics to sell them? I really want to see this theme get picked, because I know we have some really talented people in the SA game development community and I want to see what everyone can come up with. "Terrible Tie-Ins" is okay. It's a fluffy theme, but it's not a zero-effort fluffy theme like "Games for Grandma". At the bare minimum, you need to consider what mechanics would be terrible tie-ins to what products, and you need to have an actually clever idea. Phoning in a terrible tie-in would actually look phoned-in.
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So what you're saying is that you want the theme to be "the game is intense" Ok
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Hey guys, I wrote a TWINE game but blastron farted on it because it didn't tickle his adrenal glands 
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The original context of "Our Lizard Brain Goes Into Overdrive" is a case of nerds, well... nerding. So that's material to work with. Divorced of this context but still somewhat related, it could be interpreted in the sense of human lizard brain fight or flight stuff. So that's another approach. And of course, there is the most direct reading, which is just screaming, agitated geckos. Which practically writes itself. It's an entire spectrum. I'm sure people are thinking of ways to expand it while remaining on-theme even as I type this. Hidden Asbestos posted:think of all the movies and commercial products that exist that don't have game tie-ins. There's a huge range of a terrible ideas! Or products that are trying to or about to exist, but probably shouldn't. A certain toxoplasmosis expediting device comes to mind. Or perhaps tie-ins to prior SAGDC entries? Wait, does this mean everything in Enos' Zardoz Head Continuity are automatically tie-ins to each other? Also, I've mentioned it in IRC but it bears repeating: The Fifth Element tie-in game uses the Ruby Rhod scream to start EVERY single level.
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Explosive Tampons posted:Hey, is it possible to change usernames in the awfuljams site? I changed mine here and I want to change there too just so I don't lose my legacy (in the wall of shame). Jo posted:Also could someone change my name on the jam site from Jooo to Jo? There was a character minimum. 
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