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will it murder MY WIFE?
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Pardot posted:in the docs, every time cow is mentioned but once it goes out of the way to qualify it with 'cow metadata', and the other spot is for the file/dir clone feature. it makes me think it's not cow all the time like zfs or bttrfs, just when you use the clone thing and the metadata. I will fight you
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Jun 17, 2016 09:54
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Why would you have a case insensitive file system that supports Unicode in the first place. It only makes sense in pure ASCII.
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Jun 17, 2016 11:09
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It doesn't make sense at all because userland can handle it.
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Jun 17, 2016 12:21
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online friend posted:http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/digging-into-the-dev-documentation-for-apfs-apples-new-file-system/ Your file system is a piece of poo poo. Apple should have licensed NTFS.
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Jun 17, 2016 12:31
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how come no one has posted a fat joke yet
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Jun 17, 2016 13:00
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Shaggar posted:Your file system is a piece of poo poo. lol that they didn't follow thru on zfs because oracle is loving toxic
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Jun 17, 2016 13:32
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Shaggar posted:Your file system is a piece of poo poo. i think you mean ReFS
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Jun 17, 2016 13:36
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apparently lots of nerds are angry about case sensitivity. both Mac OS and windows have been running on case insensitive file systems since the 80s and users don't seem to have problems with it. obviously when Linux finally conquers the desktop it will show them what they've been missing all these years
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Jun 17, 2016 13:43
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The Management posted:apparently lots of nerds are angry about case sensitivity. both Mac OS and windows have been running on case insensitive file systems since the 80s and users don't seem to have problems with it. obviously when Linux finally conquers the desktop it will show them what they've been missing all these years NTFS is case-sensitive and provides insensitivity at a higher level like normal.
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Jun 17, 2016 13:49
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Larry Parrish posted:Why would you have a case insensitive file system that supports Unicode in the first place. It only makes sense in pure ASCII. case insensitive in Unicode is case folding.
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Jun 17, 2016 14:11
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hopefully this makes defining a case sensitive subdurectory/partition/whatever less dumb though. right now I use a sparse bundle that gets auto mounted on startup but that's super undiscoverable.
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Jun 17, 2016 14:13
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SpaceAceJase posted:will it murder MY WIFE? look AP may be an abuser but he's not a murderer
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Jun 17, 2016 14:44
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maniacdevnull posted:lol that they didn't follow thru on zfs because oracle is loving toxic zfs is trash for Linux
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Jun 17, 2016 14:46
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using anything oracle is asking to get sued once they sense there's enough money to be made.
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Jun 17, 2016 14:58
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The Management posted:using anything oracle is asking to get sued once they sense there's enough money to be made. faaaaaaaair uuuuuuuuuussssssseeeeeeeeeeee
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Jun 17, 2016 15:03
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some idiots using zfs on Linux in a major deployment will get their rear end sued for using oracle patents, and their blubbering about open source is not going to help them.
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Jun 17, 2016 15:10
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The Management posted:apparently lots of nerds are angry about case sensitivity. both Mac OS and windows have been running on case insensitive file systems since the 80s and users don't seem to have problems with it. obviously when Linux finally conquers the desktop it will show them what they've been missing all these years I know you're not that bright but Explorer features aren't part of the NTFS spec.
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Jun 17, 2016 15:12
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ntfs is so good
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Jun 17, 2016 15:14
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Shaggar posted:ntfs is so good shaggar was wrong
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Jun 17, 2016 15:19
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ntfs is the worlds best file system
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Jun 17, 2016 15:20
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online friend posted:shaggar was wrong You really think it's worse than HFS?
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Jun 17, 2016 15:21
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emoji posted:You really think it's worse than HFS? something be better than something bad doesn't make it good
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Jun 17, 2016 15:23
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NTFS is by far the best file system. everything else is garbage for Linux.
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Jun 17, 2016 15:26
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Shaggar posted:NTFS is by far the best file system. everything else is garbage for Linux. why is ntfs better than ext4
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Jun 17, 2016 15:28
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emoji posted:You really think it's worse than HFS? please point out where i said ntfs is worse than hfs also lol ntfs is garbage, zfs > *
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Jun 17, 2016 15:30
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Captain Foo posted:why is ntfs better than ext4 for every reason. its just better at everything
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Jun 17, 2016 15:36
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online friend posted:please point out where i said ntfs is worse than hfs In the context of FSs used by Apple Shaggar is absolutely correct and even you could absolutely do much worse than NTFS, which has been very successful in terms of the sheer number of deployments. And everyone knows zfs is far too encumbered. And wow, I'm shocked that an FS made decades later would be more technically advanced.
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Jun 17, 2016 15:41
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emoji posted:In the context of FSs used by Apple Shaggar is absolutely correct and even you could absolutely do much worse than NTFS, which has been very successful in terms of the sheer number of deployments. And everyone knows zfs is far too encumbered. And wow, I'm shocked that an FS made decades later would be more technically advanced. i would rather use ext2 than ntfs because ntfs is Dog poo poo Garbage
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Jun 17, 2016 15:45
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any apple fs is inherently made bad by the os installed on it
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Jun 17, 2016 17:42
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SpaceAceJase posted:will it murder MY WIFE? I too am wondering this, since I'm currently standing line for a marriage license. I may have to forego upgrading my various apple products.
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Jun 17, 2016 17:58
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Larry Parrish posted:I know you're not that bright but Explorer features aren't part of the NTFS spec. nope Microsoft posted:NTFS supports two slightly different modes of operation that can be selected by the subsystem of the application interacting with NTFS. The first is fully case sensitive and demands that file names supplied by the application match the names stored on disk including case if the file on disk is to be selected. The second mode of operation is case preserving but not case sensitive. This means that applications can select files on the disk even if the supplied name differs in case from the name stored on the disk. Note that both modes preserve the case used to create the files. The difference in behavior noted here applies only when an application needs to locate an existing file. POSIX takes advantage of the full case sensitive mode, while MS-DOS, WOW, and Win32 subsystems use the case insensitive mode. I.e. the file system supports a fully case-insensitive use mode. it's not in the applications.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:03
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Shaggar posted:zfs is trash for Linux i thought it was trash for Solaris
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Jun 17, 2016 18:14
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same difference
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Jun 17, 2016 18:14
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whats really good is NTFS. it all the most useful features built in
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Jun 17, 2016 18:15
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coolest part about solaris is that the official development tools dont even have a functional debugger. well, they do but they dont offer any tab completion or history.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:16
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ZFS can also change case sensitivity https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19120-01/open.solaris/817-2271/gftgr/index.html
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Jun 17, 2016 18:17
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SPARC64 is cool, tho moving register windows and a poo poo ton of registers is cool.
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Jun 17, 2016 18:17
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why would apple ever use anyone else's filesystem in 2016
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Jun 17, 2016 18:53
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because they want it to work
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