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Convergence posted:This plus the US election nonsense it a gigantic warning alarm, if not a death knell, for the efficacy of direct or close-to-direct democracy in the age of viral disinformation via social media. poo poo is terrifying. Not hyperbolic at all. Corbyn, Bernie, Trump, Brexit. The people keep going and doing what the ruling class seriously don't want them to do. How much longer are they really just going to let that keep happening.
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Convergence posted:This plus the US election nonsense it a gigantic warning alarm, if not a death knell, for the efficacy of direct or close-to-direct democracy in the age of viral disinformation via social media. poo poo is terrifying. The problem is a lack of education. The Swiss have fairly well functioning country with a direct democracy and I suspect the difference is that they are better at educating people so they don't turn into hillbillies.
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straight up brolic posted:it wasn't just racism, people on the left and right did genuinely vote leave, it's that they were lied to about the potential benefits and consequences. like leave people thought this was going to improve UK economy somehow.
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Hollismason posted:Haha Germany is going to gently caress England so hard in the negotiations with the EU that the British will build a time machine to go back in time to surrender to Hitler. Seriously how bad will Markel gently caress Borris?
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gay picnic defence posted:The problem is a lack of education. The Swiss have fairly well functioning country with a direct democracy and I suspect the difference is that they are better at educating people so they don't turn into hillbillies. The Swiss are trying real hard to ignore their own referendum results.
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gay picnic defence posted:The problem is a lack of education. The Swiss have fairly well functioning country with a direct democracy and I suspect the difference is that they are better at educating people so they don't turn into hillbillies. The whole Swiss economy is based on being a bank that hides money for dictators and other criminals. It's not a good example for anything,
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Hollismason posted:Haha Germany is going to gently caress England so hard in the negotiations with the EU that the British will build a time machine to go back in time to surrender to Hitler. I didn't know they were making more Danger 5???
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vanbags posted:I don't really understand this. As an American completely removed from European politics even I couldn't escape headlines about Brexit being a potentially bad idea. My understanding (and UKMTers can probably elaborate) is that it was the typical populist stance. Supporters of leave generally distrusted experts, such that any "proof" of leave being the bad choice was dismissed as "lies." The same way that Trump supporters dismiss any claims that Trump is an incompetent buffoon as "lies."
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vanbags posted:I don't really understand this. As an American completely removed from European politics even I couldn't escape headlines about Brexit being a potentially bad idea. Yes, and half of our country wants to build a 3000 mile wall of magical ice to keep out the rapist mexican wildlings before winter comes because global warming isn't real
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vanbags posted:I don't really understand this. As an American completely removed from European politics even I couldn't escape headlines about Brexit being a potentially bad idea.
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Nigel Farrage wants to declare this day a national holiday - an independence day
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Hollismason posted:Haha Germany is going to gently caress England so hard in the negotiations with the EU that the British will build a time machine to go back in time to surrender to Hitler.
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Grouchio posted:David Cameron is said to be resigning soon. Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea?
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Pakled posted:brb merging with Helios. Vote Trump for the Tong ending.(LOL racist city states) Vote Clinton for Illuminati ending.(business as usual which is pretty okay since real life doesn't have gray death, other events also didn't happen/didn't happen yet)
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? Yes, but Cameron didn't actually want to leave. It was a gambit to win the last election that he at the time calimed was to give the UK more leverage in negotiations with the EU.
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vanbags posted:I don't really understand this. As an American completely removed from European politics even I couldn't escape headlines about Brexit being a potentially bad idea. the leave campaign said that leaving the EU would free up enough money to fund the NHS and other things besides now that they've won they say it was "a mistake" to say that but it is TOO LATE
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? It was, but he then campaigned to stay in. It is very awkward for someone who lost a referendum to continue to lead the government because it means he has to do things he explicitly campaigned against.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? Cameron and Osborne wanted to remain, they put the vote in their election manifesto because they wanted to appeal to the UKIP voters, they didn't want to actually win it, or entiely expect to win that election either.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? Cam called the vote to placate the right wing of his party - hew campaigned in EU for a reformed relationship with EU - got a few agreements, and on that basis made an extremely concerted effort to back the remain side, along with the majority of the cabinet.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? it was entirely a political maneuver and they never wanted to actually leave the eu. its like the government shutdown
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? He didnt want to do it, he was pretty much pushed into it.
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http://www.investing.com/indices/uk-100-futures FTSE down -10% and still falling.  UK is so hosed.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Somebody explain to me real quick why they are qutting if they got their way? Wasnt the vote camerons idea? Cameron said they would do the vote to get the racist vote in the last election thinking he wouldn't have to do it. Then he did, and he's been vocally against leaving. Right now "the local man ruins everything" meme applies to him more than anyone else in the world. I really hope they made him go wake up the Queen to tell her he may or may not have misplaced a few of her Kingdoms.
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OhFunny posted:http://www.investing.com/indices/uk-100-futures Whats the chance of the Pound hitting parity with the dollar?
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PhazonLink posted:Vote Trump for the Tong ending.(LOL racist city states) When I first played through that game when I was 16 I being a idiotic teenager chose the Tong ending. Also what has Boris's reaction been?
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OhFunny posted:http://www.investing.com/indices/uk-100-futures
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nerdrum posted:Whats the chance of the Pound hitting parity with the dollar?
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nerdrum posted:Whats the chance of the Pound hitting parity with the dollar? Depends on the timescale. But given the current outlook, I'd give it a couple months.
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This means more 22 yo English guys in Melbourne no doubt Godammit
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The GBP will be worth 0.3 USD. Unemployment will rise to 30%, poverty to 45%. Shantytowns will rise in all public parks as law erodes. Welcome to the third world.
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nerdrum posted:Whats the chance of the Pound hitting parity with the dollar? Many currencies seem to be buying dollars like crazy at the moment so it's not outside of the realm of possibility.
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straight up brolic posted:Pretty low. Will probably only go as far at 1.25 Why couldn't this have happened a month ago when I was in England on business?
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Fragrag posted:So is this how they will fix the London housing crisis? I suppose there's no housing crisis if there's no London.
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logikv9 posted:i'm excited for the next PM, the chaos reigns wolf its a fox!
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