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Noshtane posted:Too much foodchat ITT.
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That is actually sensible, Green parties of outside microstates should have neutral, if not positive stance towards nuclear power, even though the latter would not bode well with average electorate, mainly due to the fact that inventors of modern nuclear technologies reliably fail to communicate anything.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:18
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That's why I said it was cool.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:27
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The Greens have always been an opposition party , they have never been in charge of real decisions before. Just citicising the ones in charge. They view the world as Stockholm and surrounding areas and think that everyone should travel collectively, preferably by subway. The first thing they did was to proclaim a Palestinian state. They are not known for their sensible beliefs. I liked them better as a social conscience party to remind us to also think of the environment.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:29
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MRLOLAST posted:The Greens have always been an opposition party , they have never been in charge of real decisions before. Just citicising the ones in charge.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:33
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Proclaim a Palestinian state? You mean recognize Palestine? Because that's also a cool thing to do. To you yes, but I think a lot of people disagreed.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:50
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MRLOLAST posted:To you yes, but I think a lot of people disagreed.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:52
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That's why I said it was cool.
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Jul 5, 2016 13:03
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MRLOLAST posted:To you yes, but I think a lot of people disagreed. gently caress them 
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Jul 5, 2016 13:04
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kalstrams posted:being a physics student  I'm so, so sorry
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Jul 5, 2016 13:09
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Rappaport posted:
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Rappaport posted:
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Jul 5, 2016 13:14
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Well, someone needs to invent a device which will send Russia into an alternate dimension. 
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Jul 5, 2016 13:31
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kalstrams posted:I'm actually on the practical side of things, so how about we accurately measure their radio traffic using a satellite?
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Jul 5, 2016 13:39
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An impenetrable force field to place between Russia and its neighbors is an acceptable substitute if dimensional travel proves too hard.
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Jul 5, 2016 14:18
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Noshtane posted:Let's talk about Miljöpartiet. No nuclear power exit in sight, Vattenfalls coal mines are sold and our borders are tighter than Tupacs first rap album. thank god S pulled through
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Jul 5, 2016 20:45
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Jul 6, 2016 14:27
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What did you do
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Jul 6, 2016 15:08
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Great badge of honor or greatest badge of honor? On another topic, I wanted to talk a bit about parliament member Amineh Kakabaveh. A brief summary, courtesy of Wikipedia: wikipedia posted:Amineh Kakabaveh (även Ameneh), född 6 december 1970[1] i Saqqez i Iran[källa behövs], är en svensk-iransk politiker (vänsterpartist) och riksdagsledamot sedan år 2008. Hon är invald i riksdagen för Stockholms läns valkrets på plats 282. I've been a big fan of Amineh, mostly because of her work in the organisation "Varken Hora eller Kuvad", (VHEF) which roughly translates to "Nor whore nor subjugated". It was created after the murder of a girl who had the utter gall to not only go against her families orders not to date a swedish man, but to also actively fight against them in court and in media. The goal of the organisation is to fight the type of demented patriarchal machismo that's usually behind these types of crimes, and provide support to the young girls who are stuck in these dangerous situations. Recently Amineh and VHEF have been making a bit of noise regarding the situation amongst women and LGBT characters in certain suburbs https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22384051.ab aftonbladet posted:rapporten, som publicerades i torsdags, har föreningen Varken Hora eller Kuvad frågat 1 100 ungdomar mellan 12 och 18 i segregerade Stockholmsförorter om hur de upplever sin egen frihet. Another article is here http://www.expressen.se/debatt/i-fororten-vaxer-mannens-diktatur/ quote:Tvåbarnsmamman Seve Saleh som bott i Husby i 13 år berättar för mig hur Husby allt mer liknar Afghanistan. Amineh is a member of Vänsterpartiet, although that relationship has been strained for a while. She obviously doesn't have a problem with pointing out the growing segregation and the negative effects thereof, and this I think has not been well received with her peers in V, mostly because of her critisism of Islam and the way she argues it feeds in to the patriarchal honor culture in these suburbs. Either way, Amineh hosed up recently, (I found out about this a couple of days ago, being cut of from swedish MSM). She shared a clip on her facebook page that she thought was from SVT but was actually from a neo-nazi organisation. Oops!. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samhalle/article22712623.ab quote:Nyhetssajten Expo Idag har avslöjat att Vänsterpartiets riksdagsledamot Amineh Kakabaveh spridit en högerextrem film på Facebook. I filmen, som sammanställts av den högerextrema gruppen Nordisk Ungdom, målas somalier via fejkad textöversättning ut som våldtäktsmän och tjuvar. She said she didn't finish watching the whole video, just some segments and then turned it off in disgust after the whole "polygami" thing, which means that taken at face value she missed the parts where somalians are portrayed as rapists or thieves. Still, she's apologized and gotten a lot of heat for this blunder, and been forced to take a time out from her duties in V, from what I understand. Still, being the firecracker that she is, she sent in an article defending herself http://www.dagenssamhalle.se/debatt/jag-kommer-alltid-bekaempa-rasism-och-kvinnofoertryck-26115 quote:Under den tid jag tvingades avstå från allt utåtriktat arbete så var det ingen från partiledningen som försvarade mig. Jag fick inte närvara när partiledningen bjöds in till ett rättegångsliknande möte med svenska somalier i Kista. Här kunde vissa deltagare kasta ur sig i stort sett hur grova anklagelser som helst utan att någon från mitt parti sa det självklara: ”Amineh har gjort ett misstag som hon är ledsen för, men vi känner henne och vet att hon har ett brinnande engagemang för att bekämpa alla former av rasism.” It seems that her work against extremism hasn't garnered her any friends in her own party, on the contrary. At any rate, despite her error in judgment, I am still a big fan of her work, and will still vote for her next election. I wish more people in power would talk about how conditions in these suburbs are getting worse for women and LGBT people. She has to thread the needle very carefully fighting the worsening conditions while not playing in to the hands of people trying to fan the fires of xenophobia, but I think she's done a good job...you know, that one clip not withstanding. So that's my contribution for the month! Feel free to bring up your own favorite/least favorite PM's and why they're so great/terrible! McCloud fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jul 6, 2016 |
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Jul 6, 2016 15:44
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..Or we could talk about food, I guess?
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Jul 7, 2016 15:34
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McCloud posted:..Or we could talk about food, I guess? This might be a language issue. After all, it can be hard to discuss something when you're not even sure what it's about. Also, pinnekjøtt is the best Christmas dish.
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Jul 7, 2016 15:42
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Rugbrød! (rye bread) Smear some butter on that fucker and then dress with sliced meats and what have you. God I love Rugbrød... Almost as much as I love potatoes!
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Jul 7, 2016 15:46
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i sometimes eat kebab and other times i do not
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Jul 7, 2016 15:54
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Also that Swedish lamb leg thing is just wonderful. I can't remember what it's called, though. It's like a fenalår, but juicer.
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Jul 7, 2016 16:10
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ThaumPenguin posted:This might be a language issue. That is a good point. I suppose I should whole rear end it instead of half rear end it and translate the quoted parts. Meanwhile though, Almedalen is in full swing and nary a peep in here. I think both M and SD had their appearances today. One of M's suggestions is to lower the amount of social welfare you can receive, and SD wants to tackle problematic suburbs with swedish folk dances, curfews and special police taskforce.
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Jul 7, 2016 17:09
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McCloud posted:SD wants to tackle problematic suburbs with swedish folk dances, curfews and special police taskforce. All at the same time, right?
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Jul 7, 2016 17:46
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Deploy the pacification maypole!
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Jul 7, 2016 19:47
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McCloud posted:..Or we could talk about food, I guess? i guess its just a sad story right? It might have to do with V's ideological baggage but i mean, every party treats "rogue" elements with hostility. It's the weird collectivist part of sweden made form. I'm just reading your write-up and shaking my head, but i'm lost on what the thing to take away is, is what im trying to say. Maybe the left should talk about those issues in earnest, using serious, empirical persons like Amineh to lead the way? If only to counteract the retardation of the alt-right currently in full medvind in the public discussion
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Wild Horses posted:i guess its just a sad story right? It might have to do with V's ideological baggage but i mean, every party treats "rogue" elements with hostility. It's the weird collectivist part of sweden made form. Well what I wanted most was to talk about Amineh cause I think she's doing good work and many might not have heard much about her other than the recent screw up she did, but yeah, if there is a broader point to be made it is that there is a growing problem in immigrant heavy aras that increasingly adhere to problematic norms imported from middle eastern patriarchal religious culture. The frequency of attacks on EMTs and police officers in these areas has increased, young girls feel they are controlled by family and LGBT people are threatened. It feels like the left has totally ceded this ground to the alt right and generally don't want to discuss these issues in fear of fueling the same fires that SD are stoking, but this just lets SD grow in influence and corner the "immigration" issue.
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germlin posted:Deploy the pacification maypole! And the pacification maypussy to fight the patriarchy!
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evobatman posted:And the pacification maypussy to fight the patriarchy!
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Jul 8, 2016 12:29
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So what is going on in Perfect Countries? Aside from Sweden getting tuff on crime, Denmark confiscating gold teeth and Norway having slightly less than all of the money?
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Jul 8, 2016 22:00
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germlin posted:So what is going on in Perfect Countries? Aside from Sweden getting tuff on crime, Denmark confiscating gold teeth and Norway having slightly less than all of the money? Sweden is trudging along for the housing market equivalent of Ragnarök and yet, it was barely even discussed in this weeks large political 7-day gathering in Almedalen. Instead, every party is trying to orient towards their own version of nationalism and gossip about Brexit. Since last month we also officially have one of the worst asylum policy packages in Europe thanks to proposition 174 getting voted through. When questioned about particulars that have been deemed contra-productive by swedish government agencies, courts and NGO's the only answer given by the government is; 'We did that because that's what the EU-minimum says is the least we can do.' We gon' be alright.  Noshtane posted:Let's talk about Miljöpartiet. They have now betrayed pretty much all of their core issues. No nuclear power exit in sight, Vattenfalls coal mines are sold and our borders are tighter than Tupacs first rap album. They didn't do that very good back in 2014, how will they do now with all the broken promises and purges to slow them down? Will we see the end of MP and F! taking their role as the small party filled with oddballs? I still can't believe that Fridolin actually got to stay. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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Jul 9, 2016 07:42
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ThaumPenguin posted:Our claims of "not being in the EU" are getting closer and closer to being basically pedantry.
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Jul 9, 2016 08:18
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McCloud posted:Great badge of honor or greatest badge of honor? The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: You Are Racist > Scandinavian Politics - [källa behövs]
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Jul 9, 2016 13:01
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MiddleOne posted:
But he's so cuuuuuuuuuuute 
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Jul 9, 2016 20:33
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ThaumPenguin posted:Also that Swedish lamb leg thing is just wonderful. I do not think I have ever had that despite living there most of my life. If you can figure out what it is called I will see if I can find some next time I visit Gotland
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Jul 10, 2016 10:30
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ThaumPenguin posted:Also that Swedish lamb leg thing is just wonderful. Fårfiol?
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TheFluff posted:Fårfiol? Yes! That's the one! Thanks  My sister's Swedish mother-in-law has occasionally brought some with her while visiting us for Christmas. I'm really fond of the stuff.
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