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Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

Carmant posted:

Guy in BYOB used to post about sticking his finger up his newborn kids rear end every night
I don't know Supernanny's stance on that.

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Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
what about that couple that was all about spanking their kids? They even had a book about it.

They'd just be spanking 'em all the time. They didn't even have to do anything wrong, they'd just spank them to remind them that life was cruel or something.

Oh yeah, here it is:

https://www.amazon.com/Train-Up-Child-Michael-Pearl/dp/1892112000

I'd suggest not doing that, personally. And if I ever catch an adult or other authority figure smacking my kid I'll lose my loving mind.

Duh Ugh
May 27, 2008
Spanking is just fine. Make sure to use only the right hand when spanking a child. Spanking with the left hand only beats more evil into the brat.

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
none of my siblings got spanked more than twice in our whole childhood. it was seen as the Ultimate Punishment, and we were never repeat offenders because of that. We knew that if a spanking was in order, we royally hosed up. Like when I encouraged my best friend to pump hose water into the AC outlet pipe on his house, flooding his basement. Actually I didn't even get spanked for that, because I didn't know any better. But had I, that would have been a spanking offense.

Spanking is bad when it is done for any offense at all. Because kids then learn to associate authority with pain, I think, and it damages them psychologically.

You can let a kid learn a lesson by letting them touch the hot stove, or spank them for trying to touch the hot stove even when you tell them not to. Some kids do not learn not to do a thing even when forcefully told not to. Obviously, this has its limits. You could, after all, let a kid learn not to jump off the loving roof like a pro wrestler by letting them do it and potentially dying.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

mostlygray posted:

Your kid isn't an animal

Well this explains your position. If my kid was vegetable or mineral, I don't think she'd act up much either.

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

if you're spanking an adult how could that be child abuse op

furthermore, children are planet abuse

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

symbolic posted:

why were you combing the ends of the earth for snakes

Pre-Internet Goons were into some weird poo poo.

See also: the porn fairy/woods porn

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

I dont think spanking is inherently bad, but it seems like a lot of people just inflict pain out of fear/anger and not describe why the child deserves physical punishment?

This is because there is no justifiable reason to strike a child. Shouting "YOU DESERVE TO BE HIT BECAUSE YOU TOOK TOO LONG TO EAT YOUR PEAS" just sounds silly, even to people that love beating children.

the good fax machine
Feb 26, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
My old roommate used to mercilessly spank (beat?) his son behind closed doors

That kid always messed with my cat though so gently caress him

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
an abortion is the ultimate in preemptive spanking

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
spanking is from a bygone era when children were objects born to aid parents in their elder years, or to replace a sickly/dead child that could no longer milk a cow or tend a field.

there are about a billion ways to communicate your intent to a youngling without going full primate on them.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

spanking is from a bygone era when children were objects born to aid parents in their elder years, or to replace a sickly/dead child that could no longer milk a cow or tend a field.

there are about a billion ways to communicate your intent to a youngling without going full primate on them.

like what

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
words mostly.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
Just because you spanked your child doesn't necessarily mean that they're messed up today because of it, but it's completely unnecessary and your a lazy poo poo-for-brains. Seriously, if you can't discipline a child without spanking them, you're a loving moron and an rear end in a top hat. gently caress you.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
i also think people shouldnt hit dogs! i dont hit dogs and those who do sure are assholes!

here is a list of other acts of violence i am against: (list)

im so good and wise

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
the only time I'm really alright with spanking is if you're one of those nutjob parents that decides to have like 9 kids. with that kind of parent to kid ratio the only real way to get the point across efficiently is through some kind of negative reinforcement or threat.

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

reallivedinosaur posted:

i also think people shouldnt hit dogs! i dont hit dogs and those who do sure are assholes!

here is a list of other acts of violence i am against: (list)

im so good and wise
Hitting other living creatures, in general, isn't a good thing. I learned that from Uwe Boll.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

Lowtax posted:

Hitting other living creatures, in general, isn't a good thing. I learned that from Uwe Boll.

words hurt too, i think he learned that from you maybe

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

reallivedinosaur posted:

words hurt too, i think he learned that from you maybe
No way, he said I had to write a negative review if I wanted the free trip! Before then, I had never seen one of his movies.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
There's a whole lot of academic research on negative reinforcement and the sort of decision making that happens on a unconscious level.

Most parents are idiots though, so the only thing they can communicate to their kids on that level is to be afraid of them when they're angry.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
My sisters got spanked way the hell less than me (because I wore my mom and dad clean out in just 9 years) and they are both better, happier, more successful people than I.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
I got spanked a lot as a kid and I--- *sniffles*, now I, everyday--- *begins sobbing* I read and post in GBS!










Did anyone make this joke yet?

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

MILLENIALS

:argh:

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

haha if you ever violently strike a living creature incapable of defending itself you are filth

Hrist
Feb 21, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Physical discipline is good, and I can't stand seeing parents that refuse to do anything other than say "please don't do that, my dearest." to their children running around throwing forks and poo poo at the staff at a restaurant. I can't stand this no discipline thing.

I agree there's a very clear line between what's okay and not with smacking some sense into a kid. But I am just so sick of this "That's just little [suburban christian, but super feminine because 20-year-old millennial parents, name] being himself." bullshit.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

PIV is always rape.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry
On the one hand, smacking your kids is good because most kids are just horrible, terrible little lovely bastards. On the other hand, the occasional whippin' might help them to shut up and learn some respect. Not seeing any down sides here.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Is spanking much of a thing in the US? In the UK it's pretty much universally accepted that it's a super lovely and abusive thing to do, and while I'm sure some people still do it, I doubt they'd be happy to admit it in public.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Hrist posted:

Physical discipline is good

actually, it's not good and is a mark of a terrible parent. Do you deal with annoyances in other areas of your life by lashing out physically? Like, there's a middle ground between 'beating your child' and 'letting them do whatever they want.'

Bardeh fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jul 7, 2016

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

Bardeh posted:

Is spanking much of a thing in the US? In the UK it's pretty much universally accepted that it's a super lovely and abusive thing to do, and while I'm sure some people still do it, I doubt they'd be happy to admit it in public.

Lol yeah ok the nation that's the origin of the term 'Dickensian', whose default image in everyone's head is a bunch of nuns and headmasters beating and starving its filthy chimney-sweep orphans, is gonna tell the rest of the world about discipline.

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.
instead of spanking your kids, how about planking? help em build their core strength.

Hrist
Feb 21, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Bardeh posted:

actually, it's not good and is a mark of a terrible parent. Do you deal with annoyances in other areas of your life by lashing out physically?

No. And you know why I don't? Because when I was little my parents disciplined me for doing dumb things like lashing out over nothing.

Maybe it's just a generational difference. Every kid had the fear of god in them about pissing off their dad back in the 80's.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Hrist posted:

No. And you know why I don't? Because when I was little my parents disciplined me for doing dumb things like lashing out over nothing.

Maybe it's just a generational difference. Every kid had the fear of god in them about pissing off their dad back in the 80's.

My parents disciplined me too. They didn't hit me though, because they're not garbage people.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

dreezy posted:

instead of spanking your kids, how about planking? help em build their core strength.

Prank your kids. Whoopie cushion for fighting with your brother. Talking back? Go to your room and get a bucket of water that I balanced on your bedroom door dumped all over you.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
Kids should be beaten and/or spanked and/or abused IMO

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

Prank your kids. Whoopie cushion for fighting with your brother. Talking back? Go to your room and get a bucket of water that I balanced on your bedroom door dumped all over you.

chinese finger traps, there's the ticket.

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

Hrist posted:

No. And you know why I don't? Because when I was little my parents disciplined me for doing dumb things like lashing out over nothing.

Maybe it's just a generational difference. Every kid had the fear of god in them about pissing off their dad back in the 80's.

lowtax is my dad and can confirm i am well behaved without the need of physical violence

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

kazr posted:

lowtax is my dad and can confirm i am well behaved without the need of physical violence

So, what? You just threaten to ban or prob your kids if they act up?

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

Talking back? Go to your room and get a bucket of water that I balanced on your bedroom door dumped all over you.
here's the kicker: the kid has to fill up the bucket of water themselves, place it on the door, and then open the door and drench themselves. that'll show 'em who has true authority in the household.

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Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

symbolic posted:

here's the kicker: the kid has to fill up the bucket of water themselves, place it on the door, and then open the door and drench themselves. that'll show 'em who has true authority in the household.

I like it a lot. The "go cut your own switch" version of getting pranked.

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