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Conor McGregor | 31 | 15.98% | |
Jon Jones | 163 | 84.02% | |
Total: | 194 votes |
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Apparently, Kelvin Gastelum also barely made 171, and he's only had one fight since his brief forced hiatus to middleweight.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:30 |
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 22:05 |
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Dangersim posted:On a serious note and fanboyism aside, are people really counting out anderson that much? Yes he hasn't looked tremendous in his last fights but he was also fighting guys who hung back and fought patiently. That's not what Cormier is at all. Pretty much yeah. He has a chance to win of course but theres no real reason to think he will. He also looked bad against Weidman and he doesnt exactly hang back and counter fight, and he trained a lot for that fight compared to not really at all for this fight, and Cormier is bigger and better at a lot of stuff than Weidman
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:30 |
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I think Cormier is inevitably going to catch Silva square on the jaw then to the void, but it will also probably be a cool fight.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:30 |
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manyak posted:Pretty much yeah. He has a chance to win of course but theres no real reason to think he will. He also looked bad against Weidman and he doesnt exactly hang back and counter fight, and he trained a lot for that fight compared to not really at all for this fight, and Cormier is bigger and better at a lot of stuff than Weidman Yeah
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:31 |
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I'm going into the fight not expecting much, so I can be pleasantly surprised
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:32 |
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Dangersim posted:On a serious note and fanboyism aside, are people really counting out anderson that much? Yes he hasn't looked tremendous in his last fights but he was also fighting guys who hung back and fought patiently. That's not what Cormier is at all. DC's a smart guy, he's going to look at the first Sonnen fight rather than the Weidman ones for his gameplan. He was a wrestling phenom in the heavies, he's not going to struggle taking down a MW with less than stellar TDD who weighed in at 198 and will be giving up a good 20 pounds by fight time. Cormier can definitely get him down, keep him down and pound him out pretty easy at this point. Anderson still looked good against Bisping for a dude who has clearly lost a step or two, and Bisping's the champ now so yeah, he's still great, he's just facing a huge dude whose strength is his greatest weakness. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jul 8, 2016 |
# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:35 |
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Bluedeanie posted:Imagine Silva Sonnen 1 except Silva is much older, slower, chinner, less prepared, less juiced and all around more beat up, and Sonnen is way stronger and more powerful and has cardio. What do you think that looks like? This poo poo here. I understand being a huge Stan for a fighter but to the point where you cant come to these conclusions yourself?
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:40 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:hey all you guys about to make a "she's carrying 135lbs of extra weight" joke: guess who's the sherdog . com #5 bantamweight in the world bitch. that's right, not aljamain sterling. LOL That is a picture perfect PR person statement and it is hilarious. Dangersim posted:On a serious note and fanboyism aside, are people really counting out anderson that much? Yes he hasn't looked tremendous in his last fights but he was also fighting guys who hung back and fought patiently. That's not what Cormier is at all. I can't see a possibility where DC isn't looking to take down Silva right away. He's bigger, stronger, and a world class wrestler. Standing with Silva any longer than is needed to get the range is just asking for a freak flash knockout because the MMA gods are fickle and capricious.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:46 |
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Just because they are both wrestlers doesn't mean they fight the same
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:53 |
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I somehow missed this thread until now, but well done, Bluedeanie, well done. The downfall of Johny Hendricks has sure been something. I'm guess that he gets jabbed to death my Costa Philippou in his next fight.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:54 |
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fatherdog posted:Hendricks is unfortunate in that he's very short and stocky so he's always going to have a hard time making 170 while still being too small for 185. Considering how every time he misses weight he's been bragging about eating cheeseburgers I'm sure discipline is a factor, but "Hendricks could make 155 with a better diet" is just lunacy. yeah his frame is too big for 155 let alone his whole "I like cheeseburgers, gently caress you uncle Dana"
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:55 |
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Dangersim posted:Just because they are both wrestlers doesn't mean they fight the same Explain how Cormier fights differently than Chael Sonnen in a way that would make it less likely for him to beat Anderson.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:55 |
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Bluedeanie posted:Imagine Silva Sonnen 1 except Silva is much older, slower, chinner, less prepared, less juiced and all around more beat up, and Sonnen is way stronger and more powerful and has cardio. What do you think that looks like? Beaten meat.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:57 |
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Dangersim posted:Just because they are both wrestlers doesn't mean they fight the same Cormier would win his takedowns differently to Chael, sure, he'd attack differently and defend differently, but the ideal goal is the same. Take him down, pound him out or sub him. It's a very clear route to victory that's easier now than ever. I love Andy, but he's the rightful underdog in this, and him losing to Cormier doesn't tarnish him at all or diminish him in my eyes. He has balls of steel for even thinking of taking this fight, never mind doing it.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:57 |
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DC has a pretty good chin too, and it's been a good long while since Anderson has KO'd anyone. I don't see much of a way for him to win this fight either.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 19:59 |
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fatherdog posted:Explain how Cormier fights differently than Chael Sonnen in a way that would make it less likely for him to beat Anderson. He doesn't shoot power doubles
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:00 |
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colonel_korn posted:DC has a pretty good chin too, and it's been a good long while since Anderson has KO'd anyone. I don't see much of a way for him to win this fight either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyWG1yWWcF0 English commentary here, 3:40s for the same timestamp.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:00 |
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You guys know he fought chael again and stuffed a bunch of takedowns and then ko'd him right
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:01 |
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Dangersim posted:Just because they are both wrestlers doesn't mean they fight the same True, DC is much better than Chael ever could have hoped to be.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:02 |
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Yeah it's not like anderson's ever fought an.Olympic wrestler before...
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:03 |
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Dangersim posted:You guys know he fought chael again and stuffed a bunch of takedowns and then ko'd him right Bluedeanie posted:Imagine Silva Sonnen 1 except Silva is much older, slower, chinner, less prepared, less juiced and all around more beat up, and Sonnen is way stronger and more powerful and has cardio. What do you think that looks like? There's always the chance of a shorts grab at least.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:04 |
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Dangersim posted:He doesn't shoot power doubles He gets most of his shots off the high-crotch into hawk lifts or trips. Please explain why Anderson Silva would be better at defending these than a power double.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:05 |
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Dangersim posted:Yeah it's not like anderson's ever fought an.Olympic wrestler before... 1 week probation bet? I'll take DC
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:05 |
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Dangersim posted:You guys know he fought chael again and stuffed a bunch of takedowns and then ko'd him right Sonnen has no hands to set up his takedowns and he also relies more on his double. Anderson will have to respect Cormier's boxing while fending off DC chaining single legs all night. I'm a huge Anderson fanboy and pulling for him, but let's not pretend that Cormier shouldn't be a massive favorite.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:05 |
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Dangersim posted:Yeah it's not like anderson's ever fought an.Olympic wrestler before... Yes, I agree, the guy that Cormier ragdolled and soundly outwrestled is an excellent argument for Silva winning this fight.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:06 |
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fatherdog posted:Yes, I agree, the guy that Cormier ragdolled and soundly outwrestled is an excellent argument for Silva winning this fight. He wasn't on steroids anymore Yeah and neither is anderson ill make the joke for you
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:08 |
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Sonnen has no hands to set up his takedowns and he also relies more on his double. Anderson will have to respect Cormier's boxing while fending off DC chaining single legs all night. I don't disagree Cormier is the favorite, I'm just confused by people.acting like.anderson silva is a can
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:09 |
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Dangersim posted:I don't disagree Cormier is the favorite, I'm just confused by people.acting like.anderson silva is a can Suggesting that Cormier is going to do the same thing to Silva as he did to Johnson and Hendo is not "acting like anderson silva is a can". Nobody is doing that.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:11 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:She used to fight at 145 in Strikeforce for a while. I'd guess she's not a small BW, but she's not a big one either. After the last Ronda fight she was talking about how she walked around at 142 pounds and didn't want to put on muscle because she feared losing speed and cardio, and also making noises about an 125 pound weight class. Guess she's given up on that and bulked up instead.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:11 |
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She got some breast implants since then
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:15 |
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Zwachro posted:...no she didn't? She did fight in their "Women's Welterweight Tournament" but that got renamed to bantamweight later. My mistake then, woops. Dangersim posted:I don't disagree Cormier is the favorite, I'm just confused by people.acting like.anderson silva is a can There's a huge difference between thinking a dude who has recently beaten excellent fighters, is an active champion and is looking better than ever while possessing the very strengths Anderson is weak against is a hellish matchup for Anderson at this point and saying Anderson is a can.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:15 |
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Silva is gonna get beat down
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:16 |
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UFC 200
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:16 |
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Josuke Higashikata posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyWG1yWWcF0 Man i forgot how bad Cormier beat the poo poo out of Johnson
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:18 |
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The Gus fight was incredible
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:20 |
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I hope DC runs through Glover so we can see the Krylovs and the 25/8's of the world fight for the title.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:22 |
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manyak posted:Man i forgot how bad Cormier beat the poo poo out of Johnson TFW Daniel Cormier gets the high crotch in round 2. Actually that was a sick double to a slam.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:22 |
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He straight up broke rumbles will
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:25 |
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Here's the new embedded. https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/751497136177451008
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:29 |
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I'd bet Tate's camp just poorly planned her cut because of the new weigh-in times.
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# ? Jul 8, 2016 20:34 |