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Kemix
Dec 1, 2013

Because change
Wait We pick and choose.

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Rosemont
Nov 4, 2009
Grab those opportunities! :black101:

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Go for broke we are already at a disadvantage.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Alright, I might as well call it early.

code:
Go For It:    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Wait And See: III
Or alternatively:

code:
Go For It:    a lot
Wait And See: not a lot
I'm still cooking up the first update, so you'll get that some time later today.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Beginning The Campaign

Note that this update will be quite wordy - I need to explain pretty much everything in the game bar a few things that come later. There's no real learning period with this game, every week is crucial.



First, let's set up our game.



This is what I assume the closest thing to a normal game to be. Everything set to "normal" values and the defaults are kept for the checkboxes. FYI, "random events" are things that happen that drastically alter the issue importance across the nation - so, for instance, a major war could erupt overseas, which would raise the importance of the issue "A Strong Military". However, these events are very rare, and I personally have not seen one happen yet. Of course, this could mean that this game will be the one, but we'll see.



And as the thread has voted, our 2016 election will be contested between Ted Cruz...



...and Michelle Obama.



Now, this is where the fun begins.



We get a little introduction text...



...and here we are! Welcome to The Political Machine 2016! This is the main screen of the game, the map of the United States with states colored in red, blue and gray, which shows which states lean which way. There's also stronger shades of red and blue for when states swing harder in one direction, but in the beginning, everything is still vague. Now, let's go over the information we have available on this screen.

- At the top, we see that currently, the vote is split 16% Democrat, 16% Republican, and 68% undecided. So things are a lot more wide open than they would be in real life, where a lot of people pretty much already have their mind made up.

- In the top right, we see what turn we're currently on. We have 26 weeks to convince the voting population that we're the best!

- In the bottom left, we have some information about our candidate. We have 2.5 million dollars in funds, 11 stamina points, 0 clout, and 0 political capital. We'll get to clout and political capital later.

- On the bottom, we see information about the state we currently have selected. From there, we can see that in Texas, the estimated Election Day vote is 37% Democrat, 51% Republican, and 12% that could go either way. Our awareness (basically how many people in the state know about us) is 20%, and Obama's awareness is 7%. We can see that Texas has a lot of wealth and electoral college votes, and the top three issues in the state are Gun Rights, Securing The Borders and Abortion Rights.

- And on the right, we see what we currently have our candidate selected. When we gain more operatives, we can select those too and move most of them around the map.

Furthermore, the game has multiple map modes.



In this map mode, states appear in brighter green the more awareness you have in that state. Awareness starts at a baseline of 5%, with your home state starting at 20% (so Texas for us, and Illinois for Obama). Also, many different things raise awareness, but we'll go over those when we get to the different things you can do in a state. One thing about awareness, though - just flying to a state raises awareness by 2%. This can be useful to do if you have money remaining (flying to a state costs 25K) and just one or two stamina points left over, since there's nothing you can do with that.



This map mode shows states with more electoral college votes in a brighter shade of pink, and I guess we should go over the electoral college for our outsider friends that might not know about it yet. The easiest way I can explain it is that the amount of votes you win in the entirety of the United States doesn't count for anything. What really counts is the electoral college votes, and they work by assigning every state in the USA a certain number of electors. The one that gets the majority of the vote in a state wins the votes of the electors of that state. Or in very simple terms - every state is worth a certain amount of points, and you need to win the majority of the points to win the election.

I don't like this map mode - after the clear frontrunners in California and Texas, and the clear seconds in New York and Florida, everything gets really muddled - I guess that's fitting, but it's hard to read. Instead, I made a spreadsheet that has all the information on which state is worth how many votes, amongst other things. I'll be referring to this spreadsheet a lot - it'll have all the information you'll need to run a good campaign.



This map mode shows state wealth, which only comes into play when it comes to fundraising. Again, things get really muddled after the few frontrunners, so again, just refer to the spreadsheet for information on that.



Finally, we have the "political strategy" map mode. This allows you to flip states to Republican or Democrat control and see how the electoral votes line up in that scenario. I never use this, but I guess if some of you get a strategy together, I can set that up.

Now, let's take a look at our candidates again.



As a reminder, here are what the attributes do:

- Stamina: More Stamina means more stamina points, which you burn when you take actions.
- Money: More Money means that your initial funds are higher.
- Fund Raising Ability: More Fund Raising Ability means that your returns on fundraisers are higher.
- Charisma: More Charisma means that your speeches and ads are more effective.
- Appearance: More Appearance means that your interviews are more effective.
- Credibility: More Credibility means that your negative ads are more effective and your opponent's negative ads are less effective.
- Experience: More Experience means that you need less Political Capital points to win endorsements.
- Intelligence: More Intelligence means that your available responses during an interview are better.
- Media Bias: More Media Bias means the press likes you more, which means that it's easier to sway undecided/independent voters.
- Minority Appeal and Religious: More of these means that your awareness generated by campaign HQs is increased in areas with a large minority or religious demographic, respectively.

Cruz is largely average, but has weaknesses in Fund Raising Ability (which is bad, getting money is very important), Media Bias (which is eh, but really bad because of who we're facing), and Minority Appeal (which I don't think highly of, largely because it's very specialized - Charisma makes speeches and ads better, Minority Appeal just raises the awareness that is generated by campaign HQs, AND only in areas with a large minority demographic. Also, the game doesn't seem to tell you what those areas actually are). His strengths lie in Stamina (which is good) and Religious (which I also don't think highly of for the same reasons I don't like Minority Appeal).

And for comparison, here is Obama:



Hm. We beat her in Stamina, Experience and Religious. She beats us in Money, Fund Raising Ability, Charisma, Appearance, Media Bias and Minority Appeal, some of those by a long shot. This isn't looking good. Her ads and speeches will be better than ours, she'll have more money, her interviews will be better, and she'll be more likely to get undecided voters, and all we have to show for it is some more endorsements and slightly more actions per turn. Not a good look at all. Welp.

Now, we need to talk more about the central mechanic of the game - issues. Issues, and the scores candidates have on those issues are what every voter uses to decide who they vote for. In every state, there is a Democrat, Republican and Independent population, which each have their own opinions on all issues, and every state has a different set of issues that is important to them. For instance, let's compare Texas and California. Texas's top five issues are, in that order: Gun Rights, Securing The Borders, Abortion Rights, Supporting Gay Marriage and Big Government. California's top five issues are, in that order: Addressing Climate Change, Legalization Of Marijuana, Securing The Borders, Supporting Gay Marriage and Abortion Rights.

As for the different populations' opinions on those issues, as a general rule, just remember "Democrat = liberal, Republican = conservative". Republicans like things like Gun Rights and Securing The Borders and dislike things like Abortion Rights, Big Government or Supporting Gay Marriage. Democrats are generally the reverse - they like what Republicans don't like and vice versa. Independents, on the other hand, are more tricky - they have opinions that are more nuanced, depending on the state. So, for instance, Independents in Arizona like Securing The Borders, whereas Independents in California dislike it. In order to make that easier to work out, my spreadsheet will have a page with the top five issues and how the Independents in that state feel about it - green for support, gray for indifferent, red for opposing. I will update that page every four in-game weeks, so you'll have relatively up-to-date info on how awareness, voting projections and the importance of issues are developing.

Anyway, now that you've got a primer on issues, let's look at how the information is presented in-game.



First, we have the "Zagby" polls (a play off Zogby, a pollster in the USA), which give a national view on the issues. I think it shows how many voters think that that particular issue is the most important, and how many of those swing for either of the candidates - so you can see that we pick up a lot of the Resettlement Of Refugees, Fighting ISIS and Securing The Borders voters, but that's probably due to change as the campaign continues.



Now, we can take a look at Texas to see what information we can get from a state. We can see things like state wealth. electoral college voters, and the population Democrat/Independent/Republican split (which you can see in my spreadsheet), the amount of voters in the state (pointless), and most importantly, the issue scores and importances. I'll let the game explain what goes into winning a state:



Basically, don't think of issue scores as positive and negative numbers. They're scores for "support" and "oppose", and depending on the voter group that you're trying to woo, that's positive or negative. So in Texas, where Republicans and Independents make up 63% of the population, opposing Abortion Rights, Supporting Gay Marriage and Big Government while supporting Gun Rights and Securing The Borders is a good thing. Now, on my spreadsheet, I wrote down the starting issue ratings for both our candidates on all issues. Your task is going to be to manipulate those issue scores depending on the state in order to woo as many voters as possible. How do you manipulate issue scores? Well, there are a few things you can do in a state that help you with that task.



First of all, there are ads. Ads consist of you picking an issue and staking out the position you want to show in the ad - be it you supporting or opposing something, or your opponent supporting or opposing something. You can run multiple ads on the same issue, so you can run a one-two punch of showing you supporting *ISSUE* and your opponent opposing it - or vice versa, of course - but I don't believe running redundant ads is worth it, you should instead be using the money on running things on different issues to cover more bases. However, you can ignore that if you feel that running a single issue into the ground is more important (though I don't know if that even works, never tried it).



There are ground game ads (which only have a small effect on the state you're in, but cost drastically less) and TV ads (which have a stronger effect and work on a national level as well, but they cost a fuckton more, both to start out and to maintain every week). Regardless, running an ad costs you three stamina points.



You can also give a speech on how you support/oppose or how your opponent supports/opposes a certain issue. This doesn't cost any money and gives you a good chunk of issue rating and awareness, but it costs five stamina points, which is a hefty chunk. Still, it's a useful tool when you're running low on cash and need to push your awareness higher for some fundraising.



And that perfectly segues into the next thing you can do in a state - fundraising! Fundraising is a relatively simple concept - it costs three stamina points, and you get a certain amount of money based on state wealth, your awareness, and your fundraising ability. Now, here's a couple things I believe about fundraising. One: Don't fundraise in any but the top three to six wealthiest states, depending on game length. Not worth it. In our case, we can probably do well enough just fundraising in California, Texas and New York. Two: Don't fundraise when your awareness is lower than about 60%. Three: Don't be afraid to milk states. They say that repeated fundraisers will give you worse returns, but the gap between the top states and the next is so large that milking the top states is better than spreading yourself out. Four: Fundraising is non-partisan. Basically, what this means is that it doesn't seem to matter whether you're a Democrat or a Republican when you fundraise in certain states - so being a Republican in California should get you the same amount a Democrat would.



Finally, we can build buildings. You can build a single building in a state, and there are three types of building. We start with a campaign HQ in our home state, so we can only upgrade the one we have.

- Campaign HQ: This building gives us money every week, allows us to use more than the top five issues in the state, and gives us an awareness bonus in the state.
--- Level 1: 10,000$ per week, top 10 issues available in state, slight awareness bonus in state
--- Level 2: 30,000$ per week, top 15 issues available in state, moderate awareness bonus in state
--- Level 3: 90,000$ per week, all issues available in state, large awareness bonus in state

- Consulting Office: This building gives us Political Capital points, which are used to hire operatives.
--- Level 1: 1 Political Capital per week
--- Level 2: 3 Political Capital per week
--- Level 3: 7 Political Capital per week

- Outreach Center: This building gives us PR Clout points, which are used to gain endorsements, and gives us an awareness bonus in the state, and in the region if fully upgraded.
--- Level 1: 1 PR Clout per week, slight state awareness boost
--- Level 2: 3 PR Clout per week, state awareness boost
--- Level 3: 7 PR Clout per week, region awareness boost

It costs 250K to build a building at level 1, 500K to upgrade from level 1 to level 2, and 1 million to upgrade from level 2 to level 3. Building buildings early is important, since you want to maximize the benefit you get from these buildings, but you can very easily burn your money too fast.

We'll get to operatives and endorsements once we get enough political capital or PR clout to get some of those.





And one final thing I want to show you - the Assets screens. These show you all the assets the two campaigns have, be they buildings, ads or operatives. I will also be keeping track of those on the spreadsheet. You can see that in addition to the one she started out with, Obama has built two new buildings, an outreach center in California, and a campaign HQ in Texas. Should we do something similar? Well, it's up to you to decide that!

VOTING:

Alright, this is going to be a bit more complex, so bear with me. What I would like for you to do in this voting - and every weekly voting from then on - is to create a plan that uses up all our stamina points. Either create a plan of your own, or support somebody else's plan (via the standard method of quoting the plan and saying that you want this), and in the end, the plan with the most support gets put into action. With that in mind, here's what we have available:

Campaign assets:

- 2.500.000$ cash
- 11 stamina
- 0 PR clout
- 0 political capital

And here's what we can do.

Possible actions:

- Move to another state (cost: 1 stamina, 25.000$)
- Create a ground game ad in the current state (cost: 3 stamina, 50.000$ up front, 3.000$ per week - requires an issue and what direction it should go, i.E. "I Favor", "I Oppose", "Opponent Favors", "Opponent Opposes")
- Create a TV ad in the current state (cost: 3 stamina, 450.000$ up front, 30.000$ per week - requires an issue and what direction it should go, i.E. "I Favor", "I Oppose", "Opponent Favors", "Opponent Opposes")
- Give a speech in the current state (cost: 5 stamina - requires an issue and what direction it should go, i.E. "I Favor", "I Oppose", "Opponent Favors", "Opponent Opposes")
- Fundraise in the current state (cost: 3 stamina)
- Build a new building in the current state (cost: 4 stamina, 250.000$ - requires that a building has not yet been built in this state)
- Upgrade a level 1 building to a level 2 building in the current state (cost: 4 stamina, 500.000$ - requires a level 1 building in this state)
- Upgrade a level 2 building to a level 3 building in the current state (cost: 4 stamina, 1.000.000$ - requires a level 2 building in this state)

Furthermore, I'm going to recap the information that you can get in the spreadsheet:

- Page 1, "Static Data": Information about state wealth, electoral votes, and demographics (i.E. the Democrat/Independent/Republican split).
- Page 2, "Starting Issue Ratings": The issue ratings for both our candidate and our opponent that we start out with. Keeping track of any further changes is too complex, since every state has its own ratings. The starting ratings should give you an idea on what to focus on. Also, it lists the importance of the issue to the campaign. This is only a suggestion, you can totally reverse course, but it might be easier to stick with it.
- Page 3, "Assets": All the buildings, operatives and advertisements that the two campaigns currently have. This will be updated with every weekly update.
- Page 4, "Week 1": This contains our current awareness levels in every state, the projected vote results in every state, and the top five issues in every state as well as the attitude the independents in that state have towards those issues. This will be updated for Week 4, Week 8, Week 12, Week 16, Week 20 and Week 24.

You don't necessarily need all this info, but I thought you should have it regardless. If you have any questions, feel free to ask! And now, get to planning! We have a campaign to win!

TheMcD fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jul 13, 2016

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
Max out our HQ in Texas, make a TV ad about how much we love fighting ISIS.

We can fundraise next week before we move on elsewhere.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Build the other two buildings in Texas and make the TV ad in favor of fighting ISIS.

Fundraising is important, but the other stats matter too.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
We cannot let the democratic voters in Texas make their decision before advertising on TV that Michelle Obama does not believe that #BlackLivesMatter

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Rarity posted:

We cannot let the democratic voters in Texas make their decision before advertising on TV that Michelle Obama does not believe that #BlackLivesMatter

Holy poo poo yes

habituallyred
Feb 6, 2015

ultrafilter posted:

Build the other two buildings in Texas and make the TV ad in favor of fighting ISIS.

Fundraising is important, but the other stats matter too.


Forgot that there is one building per state.

my dad posted:

Max out our HQ in Texas, make a TV ad about how much we love fighting ISIS.

We can fundraise next week before we move on elsewhere.

habituallyred fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Jul 11, 2016

shibbotech
Aug 21, 2014

I'm Doctor Shibbo, and this is Jackass.
Nap Ghost
Wow that's a lot of information. I propose the following:

Upgrade current building in state to level 3 (-8 stamina, -$1,500,000) - according to the post we can only have one building in a state, not one of -each- building per state
Fundraise to burn the rest of the stamina - we're in a big earning state, recoup a few losses and establish a steady cash flow so we can begin our political murder spree

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

my dad posted:

Max out our HQ in Texas, make a TV ad about how much we love fighting ISIS.

We can fundraise next week before we move on elsewhere.

This is a good plan. The benefits from upgraded buildings can be immense.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Rarity posted:

We cannot let the democratic voters in Texas make their decision before advertising on TV that Michelle Obama does not believe that #BlackLivesMatter

I can't believe this is a thing you can do, so we'll be in for quite a ride. But given our options and that we are just starting out, my vote goes to

ultrafilter posted:

Build the other two buildings in Texas and make the TV ad in favor of fighting ISIS.

Fundraising is important, but the other stats matter too.

Explosions
Apr 20, 2015

Is your position on the issues national or state-by-state? What I mean is, can we rage against Michelle Obama's baby-killing in Texas while fighting to keep her fascist, ultra-rightwing claws out of your ovaries in New England?

Also, looking at the master list of Issues, have we considered waging this entire campaign against Michelle Obama on the topic of Hillary's Emails?

Explosions fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jul 11, 2016

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Alright, here's a few clarifications:

I'll leave Week 1 voting open for a bit so you can work this stuff out the way you want it.

ultrafilter posted:

Build the other two buildings in Texas and make the TV ad in favor of fighting ISIS.

Fundraising is important, but the other stats matter too.

You can't build more than one building in a state, you can only upgrade the one that's there. So I'm not counting this plan, but you can amend it later.

Rarity posted:

We cannot let the democratic voters in Texas make their decision before advertising on TV that Michelle Obama does not believe that #BlackLivesMatter

On the availability of issues: You can only use the top five issues in advertising in a state that you don't have a campaign HQ in. In Texas, where we have a level one HQ, we can use the top 10 issues. I've listed the top five a few times, but 6~10 are, in order: Fighting ISIS, Reducing Wealth Gap, Supporting Green Jobs, State Unions and Addressing Climate Change. If we wanted to run a TV ad against Michelle's stance on #BlackLivesMatter, we'd have to build up the HQ to level three, probably (I can't imagine #BlackLivesMatter being top 15 in Texas). Also, only doing that leaves us with a lot of stamina left over, so I'm not counting this for now (wasting stamina is really just a massive waste - like JEB!). However, you can easily just go "upgrade HQ to max in Texas, make TV ad slamming Michelle on #BlackLivesMatter", and that would work out.

Explosions posted:

Is your position on the issues national or state-by-state? What I mean is, can we rage against Michelle Obama's baby-killing in Texas while fighting to keep her fascist, ultra-rightwing claws out of your ovaries in New England?

Hypothetically possible, but remember that Cruz is big against Abortion Rights to start with, so it would require a lot of effort and a lot of ads to pull him out of that hole in New England.

Explosions posted:

Also, looking at the master list of Issues, have we considered waging this entire campaign against Michelle Obama on the topic of Hillary's Emails?

Hypothetically possible, but remember that Hillary's Emails isn't in any of the top five issues in any state, which generally means that voters won't really give a poo poo about it. It's made in such a way that it probably will only be a major issue when we'd be going up against or playing as Hillary.

So with that in mind, this is what I have for the current vote count:

code:
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad pro Fighting ISIS (my dad): III
Max HQ in Texas, fundraise (shibbotech): I

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Rarity posted:

We cannot let the democratic voters in Texas make their decision before advertising on TV that Michelle Obama does not believe that #BlackLivesMatter

While I love the sheer dastardliness of this plan, black lives do not matter in Texas, and so it will have to wait.

my dad posted:

Max out our HQ in Texas, make a TV ad about how much we love fighting ISIS.

We can fundraise next week before we move on elsewhere.

I endorse this plan.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Fine, max HQ in Texas, blast Obama for hating #BLM

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?
MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Max HQ, promote toilet carpet bombing ISIL

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Fine, max HQ in Texas, blast Obama for hating #BLM

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

SSNeoman posted:

Max HQ, promote toilet carpet bombing ISIL

Bomb them, build us!

StoneOfShame
Jul 28, 2013

This is the best kitchen ever.

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

This I want full ridiculous attacks but I also want to win and claiming Obama doesn't think black lives matter may not damage her much there.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


If it's one building per state, then yeah, let's max out the campaign headquarters.

Gulping Again
Mar 10, 2007
Max out our campaign headquarters and make a TV ad that claims Obama supports Big Government.

This seems like a safe issue to work.

Oblivion4568238
Oct 10, 2012

The Inquisition.
What a show.
The Inquisition.
Here. We. Go.
College Slice
Maxing out our HQ for the purpose of running attack ads that people in this state won't even care about is a bad idea. Maxing it for more longterm money, however, is a very good one, so I'm backing

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

This sounds good to me.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

This seems like a fair choice.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Here's a quick tally before I go to sleep.

code:
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad praising Cruz over supporting Fighting ISIS (my dad):           IIIIIII
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over opposing Fighting ISIS (ricdesi):          IIIII
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over opposing BLM (Rarity):                     II
Max HQ in Texas, fundraise (shibbotech):                                               I
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over supporting Big Government (Gulping Again): I
I think I'm seeing a pattern in these plans.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

I'm Ted Cruz and I approve this message.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat


Cruz HQ will be glorious.

ManicVolcanic
Jun 5, 2016

ricdesi posted:

MAX & ATTACKS

Let's pimp our pad and show them that Michelle Obama loves everyone, including ISIS.

This is a fantastic plan. In fact, I propose that our campaign only consist of attack ads, forever.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Fine, max HQ in Texas, blast Obama for hating The working man and Unions!

My idea

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


Attack from the left, it will be so unexpected we're sure to get free advertising from the news.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Attack from the left, it will be so unexpected we're sure to get free advertising from the news.

DO I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT!?

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
One thing to note: Issues have different support in different states, and for more nation-wide outreach like TV ads, you want to go for options that are going to be at least neutral everywhere. Blowing someone up (doesn't really matter who) is always an option like this.

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






my dad posted:

Max out our HQ in Texas, make a TV ad about how much we love fighting ISIS.

We can fundraise next week before we move on elsewhere.
Sounds like a cool plan to start out with. From what I've gathered with a bit of math, HQs aren't great if you're just going for money but good if you're going for awareness (which in turn lets you fundraise for actual dollars). Unless you put down an HQ in the first few weeks you'll never be making a profit off it directly in the default mode (25 weeks to break even for 0->1 or 0->2, or ~19 weeks to break even for 0->3).

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

my dad posted:

One thing to note: Issues have different support in different states, and for more nation-wide outreach like TV ads, you want to go for options that are going to be at least neutral everywhere. Blowing someone up (doesn't really matter who) is always an option like this.

Yeap. It seems the thread in general has caught on to this, because the two main options, which are currently tied, are simply arguing over whether we should praise ourselves for wanting to bomb ISIS, or if we should dump on Obama for not wanting to bomb ISIS. And because we have equal Credibility, I think that the two are practically the same anyway.

NGDBSS posted:

Sounds like a cool plan to start out with. From what I've gathered with a bit of math, HQs aren't great if you're just going for money but good if you're going for awareness (which in turn lets you fundraise for actual dollars). Unless you put down an HQ in the first few weeks you'll never be making a profit off it directly in the default mode (25 weeks to break even for 0->1 or 0->2, or ~19 weeks to break even for 0->3).

I like HQs for paying my ad maintenance, too. You'll never be happier for those 90K per month than when an unexpected lawsuit empties your entire coffers.

EDIT:

Cathode Raymond posted:



Cruz HQ will be glorious.

Also, this is great.

TheMcD fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jul 12, 2016

Gyra_Solune
Apr 24, 2014

Kyun kyun
Kyun kyun
Watashi no kare wa louse
i can't believe Jim Gilmore isn't in this game

i feel betrayed

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Gyra_Solune posted:

i can't believe Jim Gilmore isn't in this game

i feel betrayed

DO I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT!?

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TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Gyra_Solune posted:

i can't believe Jim Gilmore isn't in this game

i feel betrayed

:smith:

We will never make No Car Tax the top issue in the USA.

As an aside, we still have a tie:

code:
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad praising Cruz over supporting Fighting ISIS (my dad):           IIIIIII
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over opposing Fighting ISIS (ricdesi):          IIIIIII
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over opposing #BlackLivesMatter (Rarity):       II
Max HQ in Texas, fundraise (shibbotech):                                               I
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over supporting Big Government (Gulping Again): I
Max HQ in Texas, TV ad attacking Obama over opposing State Unions (Herr Tog):          I
If it's still there when I end the voting (which'll be... about six hours from now, I suppose), I'll break the tie myself, since the difference is minimal.

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