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MazelTovCocktail posted:So the Russians penetrated the US electrical grid. To be fair, Cyber Command probably has the ability to turn off the lights and heat to the entirety of Russia right now.
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psydude posted:To be fair, Cyber Command probably has the ability to turn off the lights and heat to the entirety of Russia right now. thats not many lights or much heat
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psydude posted:To be fair, Cyber Command probably has the ability to turn off the lights and heat to the entirety of Russia right now. So does a raccoon that makes a poor life choice.
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Genocide Tendency posted:So does a raccoon that makes a poor life choice. Well let's not go holding our power grid up as a model of resiliency on that account. We lost most of the eastern seaboard to a hot day and a tree limb not too long ago.
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Genocide Tendency posted:So does a raccoon that makes a poor life choice. 
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bird food bathtub posted:Well let's not go holding our power grid up as a model of resiliency on that account. We lost most of the eastern seaboard to a hot day and a tree limb not too long ago. Canada lost power to 3/4 of its entire country because the sun poo poo out a massive electrical discharge. Power grids are fragile.
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Genocide Tendency posted:Canada lost power to 3/4 of its entire country because the sun poo poo out a massive electrical discharge. When was this? The only big power-outage I remember here was when a squirrel climbed into a substation in upstate New York or something like that.
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March 13th, 1989. Think it happened a few times though Edit: Coronal Mass Ejections are an existential threat to power grids that everyone ignores because science is complicated and "how could the sun shut down my power grid. I don't understand so it must be wrong". And its going to be loving hilarious when half the northern US gets to watch the Aurora Borealis causes transformers to blow up. Genocide Tendency fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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Dec 31, 2016 06:44
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Yeah, before my time. I remember the big early 2000s one though and it was weird having the entire region go out at once, we all sat around a battery powered radio with blankets. I guess I just have a hard time conceptualizing failures on that scale because it does seem so inconceivable for something so essential to modern life.
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Mass outages happen usually because of cascade effect. Our power grids are like a Jenga tower and at this point everyone playing is 7 beers and a bottle of 151 in.
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psydude posted:To be fair, Cyber Command probably has the ability to turn off the lights and heat to the entirety of Russia right now. Why would we ever do that to our trustworthy ally, who has done nothing wrong?
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The hack is more russian sensationalism, there was malware on a laptop owned by the vermont power co. but it isnt connected to the grid in any way.
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Dec 31, 2016 07:27
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Quoting from, surprisingly, ADTRW.Race Realists posted:Deplora-LOL: Alt-Right Nazis turn on former ally Mike Cernovich, decent people rejoice
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Dec 31, 2016 08:07
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Russia loves turning off their neighbors heat in the middle of winter to make a point. Seems fair that it happens to them now.
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Dec 31, 2016 08:08
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Whip Slagcheek posted:This story is a lot more benign than it was made out to be. Turns out they never got access to "the grid" they just hacked into a laptop that was owned by the utility company, but it didn't have access to any critical components. Do you have a source for this?
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ManMythLegend posted:Do you have a source for this? http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/12/30/report-russia-penetrated-us-electrical-grid/96022986/ also lol at how you need a source to prove russian didnt do something rather than they did do something
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Hot Karl Marx posted:http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/12/30/report-russia-penetrated-us-electrical-grid/96022986/ It's more that the sources I saw earlier were legit places and this is the first I heard of it not being that big.
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ManMythLegend posted:It's more that the sources I saw earlier were legit places and this is the first I heard of it not being that big. You mean the "American official" named in WaPo?
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Hot Karl Marx posted:You mean the "American official" named in WaPo? The whole story is kind of a mess. It's also not clear if WaPo even contacted the utility. The utility is saying that the WaPo story is basically overblown and again, the laptop wasn't grid-connected: https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/815028706095886336 With that said, nowadays a lot of the computer viruses and worms can jump computers, even if disconnected from each other, due to stupid people with thumb drives, for instance. Also, it doesn't help that the utility is apparently really, really lovely about cybersecurity: https://twitter.com/BruceRheins/status/815067910452350976 Overall, it was a bigger deal in 2014: http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/02/technology/security/russian-hackers/
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MazelTovCocktail posted:So the Russians penetrated the US electrical grid. Updated reports are saying it was an employee's computer without access to the actual grid, aside from the computer being plugged into the wall.
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At this point I'm expecting the dark forces of government (the ones that have pedo parties in pizza parlors) to enact contingency plans for a coup
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mlmp08 posted:Updated reports are saying it was an employee's computer without access to the actual grid, aside from the computer being plugged into the wall. That really doesn't mean much. Stuxnet was able to jump the air gap, and that was almost 9 years ago. And with how sprawling and massive most ICS networks are, they inevitably end up accidentally connected to the Internet in one way or another.
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Yea, basically the malware signature released the other day popped on an employee laptop. There's no evidence that an actual scada system was compromised. But I'd wager some scada system somewhere in the US has malware on it. Right now we're just having a pissing contest between republicans and democrats. Though I don't really know if it's so party specific anymore, maybe it should just be Pro-Trump vs Anti-Trump. I'm glad they are raising concerns of cyber security, because it makes me way more marketable.
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basically every big hack of a retailer or whatever is a hammer i use to beat money and compliance out of my clients
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May is desperate to find some friends. Theresa May Scolds Kerry for Focus on Israel Settlements quote:In a statement that echoed Mr. Trump’s fierce criticism of the Obama administration, Mrs. May chided Mr. Kerry for, among other things, describing the Israeli government as the “most right-wing in Israeli history, with an agenda driven by the most extreme elements.”
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Welcome to 2017 and el grande cahuana my poor unfortunate friends
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A Handed Missus posted:May is desperate to find some friends. Yes, let's honor the memory of Reagan by claiming that it's no big deal that Russia influenced our elections
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/815185071317676033 I hate 2017 already
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Casimir Radon posted:I'm still hoping he has a debilitating stroke. Maybe he already did and this is the result He's definitely got a shitload of disorders.
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I'm not joking when I say I fully expect the stress of the job to kill him. And then we're left with Mike loving Pence.
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New CE thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3803599
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