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I can't be the only one who thinks he'd vomit daily on that multi-ringworld station, am I? Like, OK, a Halo-style ringworld, I could handle. Horizon is just a strip in the sky. But looking up and seeing buildings at all angles, no no no. E: since this is a page snipe, I'll add that holy gently caress the Enterprise being torn into pieces actually got to me. Sure, battle damage, whatever, but that? MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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I didn't hate it, but Beyond was pretty clearly below the first two for me. Really missed Abrams' comic timing. One great sequence in a sea of OK.
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So uh, I watched the new one and it was pretty fun but can someone explain to me how the Beastie Boys made all the bees explode? My understanding was that it would just disrupt their communication and make them uncoordinated, not make them explode. Other than that I thought it was a decent way to blow a some of my free time. I don't know whether my theatre just sucked though because a lot of scenes felt like they were too dark, visually; and some of the audio was mixed poorly. There were action scenes were I couldn't understand what people were yelling (Scotty, specifically) because LOUD STUFF IS HAPPENING edit: I did think it was a step down from the first two. Easily the weakest, but still fun. edit2: Sabotage is like top three of my favourite songs ever so even if the scene made no sense I still loved it some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jul 22, 2016 |
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Martytoof posted:So uh, I watched the new one and it was pretty fun but can someone explain to me how the Beastie Boys made all the bees explode? My understanding was that it would just disrupt their communication and make them uncoordinated, not make them explode. Other than that I thought it was a decent way to blow a some of my free time. They were crashing into each other. You can see that when it first started happening but yeah, animators got lazy and once they established what was happening they just seemed to magically burst into flame.
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I absolutely hated the first 2 JJ Treks and loved this one. Does that mean this movie will be universally panned?
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Martytoof posted:So uh, I watched the new one and it was pretty fun but can someone explain to me how the Beastie Boys made all the bees explode? My understanding was that it would just disrupt their communication and make them uncoordinated, not make them explode. Other than that I thought it was a decent way to blow a some of my free time.  The whole scene and montage was peak technobabble.
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Tenzarin posted:
honestly it seemed dumb that radio waves would be all it takes to mess them up but once you realize they were mining equiptment and not warships it makes more sense that they'd have no protection at all against simple jamming, they never were designed for a fight
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gohmak posted:I absolutely hated the first 2 JJ Treks and loved this one. Does that mean this movie will be universally panned? Critical reception's about equal with ST:ID so far (which is higher than you'd probably think given the popular internet response to ID).
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:They were crashing into each other. You can see that when it first started happening but yeah, animators got lazy lol. the technobabble explained they were meant to be blowing up.
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Helsing posted:This cycle doesn't really ring true. I think that since 1994 there has only been two kinds of Star Trek movie. There are the films that are more or less transparent remakes of Wrath of Khan, and then there's Insurrection. I hope I was able to get across in the OP my self-awareness that this whole cycle thing is just confirmation bias enabled by the fact that ALL the Star Trek movies are borrowing from the same bag of tropes, because you're definitely right in the real world. But I still find it uncanny: it all started back in the early 90s when I noticed that Star Trek V & VI had a similar relationship to TMP & TWOK: an ambitious misfire that tries to work-in some of the sci-fi metaphorical morality of the TV show followed by a leaner, meaner Nicholas Meyer-directed thriller, and I had the amusing thought of "heh, maybe that means the next will be like Star Trek III..." And then Star Trek Generations was released and I thought, "Huh. That does kind of remind me of Star Trek III...". And it just kept happening like that. When First Contact was announced I thought, "Well, it's the Borg movie, so we know it's not going to be a time travel comedy, hurr...." And before going into Insurrection I thought, "Hopefully this one bucks the trend and doesn't remind me of Star Trek V..." "The Cycle" became a bit notorious with my friends and family members who also like Star Trek when I was able to predict nearly the entire storyline of Nemesis a good, like, two years before the movie's release (and this was before the script got leaked and the producers made public comments about basically remaking TWOK). So far, the only installment in the series I haven't been able to "see" continuing the cycle on first watch has been Into Darkness, but even then it only took a day or two to remember details and think "Oh. God, it happened again!" And hell, even with "Beyond", I haven't seen the dang thing and it's got all these little things that fit--most tellingly, all the talk I'm hearing that the movie is the second coming of Insurrection. It's nice to hear that initial impressions - some of the posts here notwithstanding - seem to be pretty positive overall. Looks like we might have a "good" first step, sort of like how we've had a "bad" second step before (considering its lineage in the cycle, I was shocked how Nemesis turned out to be such a flop). VVVVVVVVVVVVV EDIT: Hee hee, I'm sure you probably could make a bunch of other cycle/ superstitious chart things with observations like that. lizardman fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jul 23, 2016 |
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First movie, a mining ship from the future fucks things up. In Beyond another (extinct?) race's mining ships gently caress things up
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Took my mother to see the film because she's an old school Trek fan and we were the only people in the drat theater. We liked it fine, but it was weird watching it essentially alone.
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So the crew of the federation ship are the ones that were piloting those bee ships, and there were 2 crew per ship. And there were at least 1000 ships, to be extremely generous on the low end. So that little ship that was only slightly bigger than an NX class ship had at least 2000 crew on it? More than two Galaxy class cruisers?
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no he either press-ganged the crew from other ships he shot down over 100 years, or they were mostly semi-autonomous drone ships
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I understood both of those to be true.
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These were some great star treks, I had a good time watching this. For Anton
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Both movie theatres in my home town on opposite ends of the city had two unrelated power outages. I saw it instead at a drive in. I was in the back seat so I couldn't get a clear view always of what was going on. But everything I cobbled together from the movie I loved. I had no problem actually understanding what was happening, but to detail exactly what I liked and what fell flat I'll probably have to see it again. A solid effort. After watching the first two films in the Kelvin universe I kind of wonder why Into Darkness even exists when this movie could be inserted as a worthy sequel to the first movie. In fact I think it almost is better viewed in that light.
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gohmak posted:I absolutely hated the first 2 JJ Treks and loved this one. Does that mean this movie will be universally panned? There's a Trek thread in TV IV and there was someone asking if anyone with your opinion existed. Please pop over and chat about it.
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Star Trek Beyond: The power of classic rock saves the universe Seriously, even though I saw it coming, I love that it was the motherfuckin' Beastie Boys that saved the day, and a callback to the first reboot movie to boot.
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Unlucky7 posted:Star Trek Beyond: The power of classic rock saves the universe Classic Rap.
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I loved the poo poo out of Sabotage because not only is it just inherently a badass song, but I feel like the whole thing was a declaration of these prequels just owning their own vibe. Some goon a while back pointed out that Kirk's dialogue at the beginning about stepping out of his father's shadow could be viewed as a metaphor for the reboots trying to come into their own. I kind of get that happening with stuff like that. (Even if I also get the impression that scene was the partly result of the studio's "be more like Guardians of the Galaxy" mandate.)
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Gnome de plume posted:These were some great star treks, I had a good time watching this. Theater stayed quiet for Nimoy's tribute. I think people were waiting and wondering if that bit would be added. When it came up the theater applauded, and I got a little misty eyed.
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Also, there's a thematic connection to having Sabotage in the film if you go by the "getting away from his father's shadow" reading. Kirk going off on a joyride, basically doing his own thing while blasting that song during the first movie, and then here. It's neat.
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Rhyno posted:Classic Rap. Classic Alternative Hip-Hop.
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A small thing I enjoyed is that Krall fought in the wars before the Federation was formed, and one of the races he mentioned was the Xindi which is from the show Enterprise. Doesn't fit in with the timeline from that show but I thought it was nice.
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I thought all the trivial fan references were really well done. None of it felt shoehorned or pulled me out of the film like much of the stuff in Into Darkness.
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The amount of Enterprise love was pretty impressive. The escape pod blues are pretty reminiscent of the enterprise jumpsuits, and Spock was straight wearing one of the engineering suits from the Franklin later on. The armament being pulse phase cannons and spatial torps, also markedly useless, and Scotty yelling about the hull depolarizing are all really sweet touches.
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I was just thinking it was interesting that the crew use an old ship and old music to stop the threat lead by an old soldier who couldn't let go of a way of life the current society had left behind it. And was the guy in charge of ops in Yorktown that guy who played the cop in Heroes?
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Gnome de plume posted:I was just thinking it was interesting that the crew use an old ship and old music to stop the threat lead by an old soldier who couldn't let go of a way of life the current society had left behind it. Yup. He was also in the new Star Wars flying an Xwing, so spiritual successor to Porkins?
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Gnome de plume posted:And was the guy in charge of ops in Yorktown that guy who played the cop in Heroes?
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thuly posted:The amount of Enterprise love was pretty impressive. The escape pod blues are pretty reminiscent of the enterprise jumpsuits, and Spock was straight wearing one of the engineering suits from the Franklin later on. The armament being pulse phase cannons and spatial torps, also markedly useless, and Scotty yelling about the hull depolarizing are all really sweet touches. Not to mention the old ship looking very similar in its basic design.
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Just got back from seeing it. The action sequences are far too choppy, making it really hard to see what's going on. The first extended battle sequence also went on for far too long, and I honestly just wanted them to get on with it towards the end. Idris Elba's character - easy enough to see the twist coming from a mile off, but we don't know his motivations until the last ten minutes, which sort of ruins the tension of the entire movie. Also, where did all of his minions come from? I feel like the whole thing was really poorly explained, and I just found myself not particularly caring. Like, at all. The super weapon - again, badly explained. They should have had Krall do something super evil with it beyond just killing a single crew member. Then I might have cared, there might have been some tension. We see it in action precisely once, and it's extremely underwhelming. I mean, I understand what it would have done had Elba's character succeeded, but it still didn't feel like the super big huge threat that they were making it out to be, simply because we never saw it in action on a grand scale. I dunno, the whole thing seemed super forgettable. The highlight was the sequence when a certain song played, but the sheer  stupidity of it threatened to overwhelm the spectacle.
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Chris Pine is getting really good at evoking the Shatner style of speech without it coming off as an impression.
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The absolute most important part of this movie that no one is taking about is that it mentions the xindi wars
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I ended up watching Beyond last night with my wife, and we both genuinely enjoyed the movie. The McCoy and Spock interactions were the highlight of the film by far. My wife doesn't know anything about Star Trek other than passively watching the movies if I have them on, and she was laughing out loud at nearly every interaction between McCoy and Spock. It was nice to see the emotional human side of Spock surface in this movie too, it makes him probably the most interesting character in the films. The whole crowd was in shock with how fast the Enterprise got cut to pieces; it made the villain seem more menacing than any of the previous antagonists, but then he just kind of fell apart. I couldn't take him seriously the rest of the film, as his motives just didn't make a whole lot of sense and he lost any sense of threat he posed from his introduction. Yorktown was really impressive, with obvious design nods to DS9. The nerd in me really wanted to see more of the space station and more starships(I believe there was one parked behind the Enterprise in the background, looked somewhat like a Reliant class?), but obviously that takes up a lot of CGI budget. There was some obvious foreshadowing that we would see the crew in a new ship at the end of the film. The Admiral at Yorktown mentioned that their most advanced starship was still under construction, which made me think Excelsior at first, but ended up being the Enterprise A . The ending sequences were a little campy, but still fun. Overall it was just a really fun movie. Much more enjoyable than Into Darkness, and perhaps on par with ST09.
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Blackchamber posted:A small thing I enjoyed is that Krall fought in the wars before the Federation was formed, and one of the races he mentioned was the Xindi which is from the show Enterprise. Doesn't fit in with the timeline from that show but I thought it was nice. Why doesn't it fit? Didn't the Earthicans fight the Xindi in Enterprise? And then presumably the Romulans in the un-produced season 5?
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Certainly better than INTO DARKNESS and it felt like a bigger episode of the TV Show, which was nice. I think it has some issues and it looks like a good bit was cut out (One moment Uhura is with Krall, the next she's breaking out with Sulu) but it held up well. It's tinged with a lot of melancholy though, and a woman behind me let out a little "Aww" the first time you see Yelchin. What I did love though is this is absolutely a 'Crew' movie. It isn't about Kirk leading and the others following as much. Everyone has something to do and is pushing things forward in some way.
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FilthyImp posted:Yup. He was also a Rogue Squadron pilot in JJWars. Greg Grunberg is kind of Bad Robot's good luck charm actor. Similar to how Trap sprung maybe but whatever I cant let this go As an old when they showed TOS people I got very misty Didn't watch Enterprise but if you guys liked the callbacks then they must have been done really well, nothing felt out of place to me without knowing what they were referencing. Is the Franklin special to the show or just cool being from the same era
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