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Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
It's a plausible concept, it has a whole bunch of engineering and safety issues, it'll take actual engineering work to see whether those are surmountable or not. :shrug:

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

etalian posted:

lmao at buying individual stocks

dem fees doe

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Strategic Tea posted:

dem fees doe

Interactive Brokers has really cheap fees and lowish minimum deposit (for a broker). Also Robinhood is pretty good and totally free.


Please do not buy/trade penny stocks or microcap stocks you will lose all your money namaste.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
i wish his first name was Dick instead

Dick Musk

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

etalian posted:

lmao at buying individual stocks

srsly mordian u should go to the casino & make lotos of moneys

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Reckon they should just make a big air hockey table style track and have some rubber baby buggy bumpers and you just have big long fanboats, like bayou stylee. :clint:

Serak
Jun 18, 2000

Approaching Midnight.

Elukka posted:

It's a plausible concept, it has a whole bunch of engineering and safety issues, it'll take actual engineering work to see whether those are surmountable or not. :shrug:

One of the issues is that even if all the engineering and safety problems are solved, at the speeds they're looking at, the passengers will be exposed to the kind of vertical and lateral accelerations closer to that you'd expect in a roller coaster. And there's no way to get away from that without making the track dead flat and straight from A to B.

You can bank the vehicle around a corner to reduce the horizontal jerking motion, but all that does is transfer lateral acceleration into vertical acceleration which humans are even more sensitive to, and is more likely to cause motion sickness.

It's not gonna kill anyone, but that doesn't mean it's gonna be a pleasant ride.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Serak posted:

One of the issues is that even if all the engineering and safety problems are solved, at the speeds they're looking at, the passengers will be exposed to the kind of vertical and lateral accelerations closer to that you'd expect in a roller coaster. And there's no way to get away from that without making the track dead flat and straight from A to B.

You can bank the vehicle around a corner to reduce the horizontal jerking motion, but all that does is transfer lateral acceleration into vertical acceleration which humans are even more sensitive to, and is more likely to cause motion sickness.

It's not gonna kill anyone, but that doesn't mean it's gonna be a pleasant ride.

why would there be significant vertical and lateral acceleration?

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
also they'll eventually finish it and the next day the san andreas fault will go.... whatever sound a fault makes when it releases pressure

Un-l337-Pork
Sep 9, 2001

Oooh yeah...


You'll have personal flying drones before the fourth hyperloop startup even goes bankrupt.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
interstate 5 aint exactly a thrill ride so-

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Germstore posted:

why would there be significant vertical and lateral acceleration?

because train track paths aren't straight because we don't have imminent domain over the entire country to just plow through everyone's property to build the rich man magical train

also because we do not have science fiction inertialess propulsion so when the train turns, inertia happens

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Flesh Forge posted:

because train track paths aren't straight because we don't have imminent domain over the entire country to just plow through everyone's property to build the rich man magical train

also because we do not have science fiction inertialess propulsion so when the train turns, inertia happens

It would be built in the median of i-5 which is pretty straight and flat

e: you know if you turn a few degrees over many many miles it's going to be a pretty small lateral acceleration even if you're going 700 mph

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
hmmm



although if we all live in a video game like musk believes then it wont be a big deal i guess

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Yep, a gentle curve on the scale of CALIFORNIA will really knock the jimmies right out of you-

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Cantaloupe posted:

Elon Musk, For Men

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

Flesh Forge posted:

because train track paths aren't straight because we don't have imminent domain over the entire country to just plow through everyone's property to build the rich man magical train

also because we do not have science fiction inertialess propulsion so when the train turns, inertia happens
another person who hasn't even casually looked at the white paper i see.

you don't know what you're talking about.

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

the main problem with hyperloop is san francisco to LA is pretty much the only route in the world you could build it between that isn't close enough for regular high speed rail

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Prettz posted:

the main problem with hyperloop is san francisco to LA is pretty much the only route in the world you could build it between that isn't close enough for regular high speed rail

counterpoint: both seem like garbage cities, so? :shrug:

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

The Bananana posted:

counterpoint: both seem like garbage cities, so? :shrug:
i didn't say they weren't, but lots of people travel between them frequently

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
life is a prequel to the hunger games and san francisco is city 1

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Prettz posted:

another person who hasn't even casually looked at the white paper i see.

you don't know what you're talking about.

proudly not gonna read any of that poo poo, and thx

Serak
Jun 18, 2000

Approaching Midnight.

Germstore posted:

Yep, a gentle curve on the scale of CALIFORNIA will really knock the jimmies right out of you-

Ahh yes, railway alignments - typically made up of a single gentle curve several thousand kilometres long.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hyperloop-barf-ride-2013-8?r=US&IR=T
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/is-traveling-on-hyperloop-a-ticket-to-puke-city/
https://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/loopy-ideas-are-fine-if-youre-an-entrepreneur/

I design railway alignments for a living and I'm far from the only person who has concerns about the ride comfort even under perfect conditions

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

Flesh Forge posted:

proudly not gonna read any of that poo poo, and thx
just don't ever comment on technical subjects and you can save yourself a lot of embarrassment

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Prettz posted:

just don't ever comment on technical subjects and you can save yourself a lot of embarrassment

Dang, that dancing pizza just put you in line, dawg

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Yeah jeez it's a pleasant enough drive or hike, why miss out? :shrug:

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Prettz posted:

just don't ever comment on technical subjects and you can save yourself a lot of embarrassment

why would i want to do that

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Serak posted:

Ahh yes, railway alignments - typically made up of a single gentle curve several thousand kilometres long.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hyperloop-barf-ride-2013-8?r=US&IR=T
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/is-traveling-on-hyperloop-a-ticket-to-puke-city/
https://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/loopy-ideas-are-fine-if-youre-an-entrepreneur/

I design railway alignments for a living and I'm far from the only person who has concerns about the ride comfort even under perfect conditions

okay so olds and babbies cant ride. Sounds like an optimal travel experience.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

notZaar posted:

Why don't they just start simple with a regular train and see if people take it?

After building a company around electric, self driving cars, he's onto brilliant new horizons. Get ready for Elon Musks "The Regular Train"

naem
May 29, 2011

That would be fun and good if someone somewhere ever had "quality public transit allowing people to live/work/commute within their means" but nah, let's make a space train

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
morondin is the new three olives

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The Bananana posted:

counterpoint: both seem like garbage cities, so? :shrug:

LA is much better than SF

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
pfft, lame, i bet the loop pods come to a complete stop sometimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZHlD-AMDY&t=35s

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Hmmm... get shot by cops, or shot by muslims. Which poo poo hole seems like a better choice to tube to?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




After you take the hyperloop from SF to LA what do you do next? You don't have your car with you, and nobody in LA walks anywhere.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Facebook Aunt posted:

After you take the hyperloop from SF to LA what do you do next? You don't have your car with you, and nobody in LA walks anywhere.

Pfft, What is this, the local? [pause for laughter]

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Facebook Aunt posted:

After you take the hyperloop from SF to LA what do you do next? You don't have your car with you, and nobody in LA walks anywhere.

but but LA is at least trying to expand mass transit and has some more walkable neighborhoods

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

The Protagonist posted:

pfft, lame, i bet the loop pods come to a complete stop sometimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZHlD-AMDY&t=35s

This kind of confused me at first, because the upper part is the only part with passengers, unless the rest of the train is full of passengers going express from the first to last stop. Somehow I thought the people were somehow going from the top of the train to one of those upper cars.. but no. It's a cool idea though.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




LP0 ON FIRE posted:

This kind of confused me at first, because the upper part is the only part with passengers, unless the rest of the train is full of passengers going express from the first to last stop. Somehow I thought the people were somehow going from the top of the train to one of those upper cars.. but no. It's a cool idea though.

There must be a way to travel between the main train and the little embark hat. When the next station in your stop you go up into the hat, which is left at the station. A staircase or a ladder or something. Though how that would work with some lady with a stroller or wheelchair I don't know.

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I'm Crap
Aug 15, 2001

Kudaros posted:

What is FUD?
fear, uncertainty and doubt. if anyone ever proposes building anything other than more freeways musk will pop up to go "nuh uh! you should wait until hyperloop's ready! it costs less to build than a tram line despite the fact that it's a supersonic linear motor powered maglev train in an airtight container that travels on a micron-level accurate track through tunnels and viaducts!"

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