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I don't think there was ever anything that suggested Frate was Luce.
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From what I can see, Avilio's brother's eyes were blue or maybe blue-grey, whereas Frate's were more greenish-grey, so I don't think they're likely to have been the same person.
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Holy gently caress at the ending of this ep. I was fully expecting the end of Corteo. I did not expect him to kill anyone, let alone goddamn Fango, and in such a brutal way too. This probably means the end for Corteo next ep tho. show's goooooood
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Hey, neat, looks like the week's break did wonders for the production. The show's back to looking pretty good again. And now, some thoughts about Fango. The guy was basically an incarnate demon - not literally, but it was a very heavy metaphor. The red streak in his hair, the goatee, his near-supernatural luck, you get the picture. He was an embodiment of the violent insanity at the heart of the show's world, celebrating what everyone else kept hidden behind euphemisms and codes of honour. At first, when the city of Lawless was relatively stable, this meant that he stuck out like a sore thumb, a weird anomaly amidst serious men in suits who occasionally murdered each other (but politely). Slowly, though, as the gang wars broke out and the factions splintered, he started to blend in - he became an ally of the protagonists, he wore suits, he schemed and ran a business like any other gangster. In a world gon mad, madness became mainstream. The lasagna a la Orco wasn't just an icky bit of shock-factor, it was him bringing it all to the surface. We live off people, so let's make it literal. When Nero, Angelo, and the gang happily tucked in, they weren't just taking in Orco, but Fango, letting his shocking violence become theirs. At that point, he, too, was essentially dead, with the rest of the cast carrying on his legacy through fratricide, infanticide, and domestic murder. Look at how lined and worn he looks in this episode when he's tempting Corteo - his essence is spread thin now, his body is a shell. His physical death was the end of the rest of the cast's fall, as the nicest, kindest, and sanest character in the show took up his mantle in an orgy of ultraviolence. That's it. His job's done. Hell doesn't need a devil any more - now, it's other people.
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You just can't beat a classic crime drama meltdown murder. Just the moment of "welp, nothing left to lose or gain, you took everything from me, might as well just start killing" can be a highlight of the story if done well, and it was done quite well here.
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Sep 4, 2016 06:58
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Holy poo poo, that ending
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Sep 5, 2016 07:43
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That was an intensely brutal episode. Makes me want to post about it in three threads, too!
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Sep 5, 2016 11:39
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GorfZaplen posted:Holy poo poo, that ending it owned a lot
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Sep 6, 2016 02:03
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That was some gorgeous direction and tension.
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Sep 10, 2016 04:39
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aaand like that, avilio's tiny sense of sympathy towards nero, evaporated on some level, it's nero's petty piece of vengeance towards angelo for his enthusiastic role in facilitating the death of frate. the events of the civil war affected nero more than he likes to come off. nero wears the glove of power well, but he wears it uneasy
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Sep 17, 2016 02:28
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im the untextured cg boat
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Sep 18, 2016 00:59
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Seriously, this episode was tough to watch. So many pans of unrelated still frames while characters were talking. It almost felt like a radio play at times, and the animated bits weren't too impressive, either.
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Sep 18, 2016 01:39
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There were two still frames that kinda killed me but besides that the story's still engrossing enough that I didn't notice much
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Sep 18, 2016 23:40
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It was very hard on the eyes, but yeah, it's still good.
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That was a brilliant piece of writing and composition right at the end. Angelo did not even give Vincent the peace of death, but the horror of watching his world fall apart before his eyes. And neither does Angelo. What does Strega have in store for him? Strega has no means or incentive to keep him alive. And there's not much to say about his characterization, he's a walking cliche, you know precisely what he wants at all times.
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Phobophilia posted:That was a brilliant piece of writing and composition right at the end. Angelo did not even give Vincent the peace of death, but the horror of watching his world fall apart before his eyes. He's going to die, and so will everybody else.
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Yea like ny good mafia story this'll end with a pile of corpses and no one really getting what they needed in the end I'm sure. Great episode, can't wait for the big finish. I didn't expect it to end with Angelo arranging a total wipeout of the family but drat that was a cool plan to see unfold.
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Why on earth is this thread, and by extension most likely the anime itself, so unpopular? Like how many anime series do we even get where it's set in a real world with real world situations (or hell, mob stories) in a decade? Three? Two? I dunno, but it's weird this hasn't become a bigger thing by this point, if even for contrasting against the uh, moe catgirl animes or whatever the hell most of anime is nowadays. It's probably obvious but I've really enjoyed everything about this so far. It's just a mafia movie turned into an anime so what's even not to like here, especially since it's generally so well written. Latest episode even had a really smart kind of twist in it, when (eh, tags just in case) Angelo didn't just kill old man Vanetti, he arranged for their entire family to disappear by killing another guy. I love it! Watch this thing you ADTRW fools!
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smuh posted:Why on earth is this thread, and by extension most likely the anime itself, so unpopular? Like how many anime series do we even get where it's set in a real world with real world situations (or hell, mob stories) in a decade? Three? Two? I dunno, but it's weird this hasn't become a bigger thing by this point, if even for contrasting against the uh, moe catgirl animes or whatever the hell most of anime is nowadays. I think that a lot of good, solid series don't generate much forums content because people don't really have much to say about them beyond "that was fairly good." Mushishi S2 didn't get that long of a thread either. Series that have more mixed quality of content are more likely to generate arguments (especially if they're long-running and people get emotionally invested in their sunk time) and shipping is its own content engine.
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Sep 24, 2016 20:56
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most shows take place in the real world
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Davincie posted:most shows take place in the real world Paracelsus posted:I think that a lot of good, solid series don't generate much forums content because people don't really have much to say about them beyond "that was fairly good." Mushishi S2 didn't get that long of a thread either. Series that have more mixed quality of content are more likely to generate arguments (especially if they're long-running and people get emotionally invested in their sunk time) and shipping is its own content engine. The JoJo thread is really long too though that's more because it has already had a big following from its manga-only days, I'd assume. Dunno! smuh fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 21:04
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yeah if your only reference material is shonen fighting shows of course there aren't many realistic anime shows
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Davincie posted:yeah if your only reference material is shonen fighting shows of course there aren't many realistic anime shows I'm sorry I can't articulate my thoughs properly. I'm not trying to start an argument or anything but I suppose I'm just unable to sufficiently describe what I mean. e: I remember liking Monster? That's basically what I'm lumping 91 days together with. smuh fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 21:17
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im not sure how long of a timespan you want here (and im guessing no high school) so here's some realistic dramas off the top of my head Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju, shirobako, giovanni's island. Otona Joshi no Anime Time, mouryo no hako
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smuh posted:Why on earth is this thread, and by extension most likely the anime itself, so unpopular? Like how many anime series do we even get where it's set in a real world with real world situations (or hell, mob stories) in a decade? Three? Two? I dunno, but it's weird this hasn't become a bigger thing by this point, if even for contrasting against the uh, moe catgirl animes or whatever the hell most of anime is nowadays. I think the simple harsh truth is that anime fans reject this type of work, which is to say "anime which don't have any out and out fantasy/SF elements." The majority of fans don't want to see titles set in worlds that are geographically or culturally familiar to their own that don't hew closely to the stock "anime tropes." This is part of why we went up with series that are praised to high heaven by every review you see yet are largely ignored. Remember Monster? Nobody watched that show or bought it, and it's not even popular enough to stay up on streaming sites for people to watch for free. I loved it, and so did every review. Didn't matter. It's a frustrating conundrum, that so many shows which I call "accessible" to non-anime fans by virtue of setting, story, characterization, aesthetic, etc rarely seem to actually find their intended broader audience because most hardcore anime fans don't particularly care for them enough to talk them up (or watch them). Maybe they're not actually that accessible: a Boardwalk Empire fan I'm acquainted with who watched the show panned 91 Days because of matters like "well, where are the bootleggers of color and the Irish, etc? This isn't historically accurate enough. And all these name pronunciations are wrong." I can't say "well, Lawless isn't the big city of Chicago, it's some podunk town on the Canadian border" or "well, there's going to be an English dub released shortly" in response, because the minds are already made up. Basically, what I want there to be more of--original anime productions that aren't adapted from light novels or manga which don't have to throw in all these hooks to appeal to existing otaku markets--is not what fans seem to want. The story of my life, I suppose. At least 91 Days has remained as good as it's been throughout. I hope the finale wraps things up satisfactorily, which is to say The Final Deletion of Brother Nero is at hand. Daryl Surat fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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all these drat shows exist if you just take the time to look further than whats popular among 15 year olds, or even better just read manga so you can for example read all the other manga urasawa did after monster
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Daryl Surat ^^^^ It's funny you mention Monster since I also did in the edit! Seems like a reasonable, if depressing, thought as to why things like this are so rare. I feel I should mention I actually really don't like most anime series at all and thus am the exact person for whom they generally are not made.Davincie posted:im not sure how long of a timespan you want here (and im guessing no high school) so here's some realistic dramas off the top of my head Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju, shirobako, giovanni's island. Otona Joshi no Anime Time, mouryo no hako  Maybe I'll check em out, thanks!e: Davincie posted:all these drat shows exist if you just take the time to look further than whats popular among 15 year olds, or even better just read manga so you can for example read all the other manga urasawa did after monster 
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Sep 24, 2016 21:35
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Davincie posted:all these drat shows exist if you just take the time to look further than whats popular among 15 year olds, or even better just read manga so you can for example read all the other manga urasawa did after monster This post should be stickied
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smuh posted:Seems like a reasonable, if depressing, thought as to why things like this are so rare. I feel I should mention I actually really don't like most anime series at all and thus am the exact person for whom they generally are not made. Your reasoning is flawed, and this illustrates why. It's obvious from your posting that you don't watch much anime, and as such presumably also do not follow anime related news. Because of that, you are only made aware of the shows that become super popular or shows that you happen to find out about by chance (which I assume happened with 91 Days). Shows set in the real world aren't rare, you just haven't heard of them.
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smuh posted:This would be a fine reasoning and all, but another current Good Anime, Mob Psycho 100 has what, 25 pages now? Maybe it has things to argue about though. I don't know, 91 days just feels like its getting the short end of a stick here and I'm salty since I want it to get more seasons, hell I want more shows like it in general. Mob Psycho 100 also had a pre-existing manga that had had built up a bunch of hype beforehand.
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^^^^ haha, that's true. I'm dumb.Droyer posted:Your reasoning is flawed, and this illustrates why. It's obvious from your posting that you don't watch much anime, and as such presumably also do not follow anime related news. Because of that, you are only made aware of the shows that become super popular or shows that you happen to find out about by chance (which I assume happened with 91 Days). Shows set in the real world aren't rare, you just haven't heard of them.  Checked out Davincies recommendations and hey, found some anime interesting to me. I've had the problem of not being able to actually find stuff interesting to me forever as far as anime is concerned, which blows. So yeah the problem might just be my inability to, uh, know about things. BUT if Monster really was unpopular then poo poo sucks in any case e:VVVVV I will! smuh fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 21:55
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smuh posted:Yup, never heard of any of those Absolutely watch Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinju. It's the frontrunner for my "Best of 2016" vote.
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Sep 24, 2016 22:06
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monster wasn't unpopular, the manga sold 20 million copies
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Davincie posted:monster wasn't unpopular, the manga sold 20 million copies edit: sorry for basically hijacking the thread everyone, let's be very excited for the next 91 Days episode! smuh fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 22:10
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House of Five Leaves is historical real world, and about samurai
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Sep 24, 2016 22:39
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Sports anime that take place in the real world: Haikyu!!!, DAYS, Battery, and a squllion other ones
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Sep 24, 2016 22:41
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There are also a shitload of romcoms set in the real world.
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91 days is incredibly fantastic. Though I don't think there's much I could post beyond "that was awesome!" each episode. I find the show has been telling its story well enough that while the outcome was fairly reasonable to figure out long in advance, the way it gets there has been slightly unpredictable. It doesn't lead itself to much discussion. I have tried to talk to co-workers about it but none of them are watching it because "I don't like mafia stuff" even though I've gushed about it. That side of it is sad because this show is easily in my top 3 of the season.
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