UKMT August 2016: The Month of the Dull Knives

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

But our job's haaard! Don't you understand?

People actually don't, and need to be smacked on the head with a rolled up stack of "austerity bad" posters.

ronya posted:

a pie chart, maybe

Pie charts are terrible and suitable only for politicians and children. Given that voters are on the dumber side of politicians and children, pie charts are perfect.

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Oh look, a bunch of whiny idiots are getting offended over a dumb inconsequential thing. This time it's old tories! :sun:

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The former Newsnight presenter [Paxman], who is 66 himself, has become embroiled in a dispute with Mature Times, a newspaper aimed at the over-50s, after he launched a scathing attack on the publication.

Its publisher, Andrew Silk, hit back by claiming Paxman was clearly in denial about his age and likened him to Jeremy Clarkson, without the charisma.

In a column for the Financial Times, Paxman wrote: �At the reception desk of a hotel to which I checked in this week was a pile of free copies of Mature Times, which calls itself �the voice of our generation�. Oh God, I thought, the cheeky bastards are including me. Back off.

�For this must be the most unfashionable publication in Britain. Who wants to be called �mature�, like an old cheese? We all know that �mature� means on the verge of incontinence, idiocy and peevish valetudinarianism. They might as well have named it the �Surgical Stocking Sentinel� or �Winceyette Weekly�.

[...]

He added that politicians were too frightened to confront the �whiffy vested interest� of old people. �They have every reason to laugh at the way government after government has skewed things in their favour. Yet the most striking thing about rooms full of old people is how very little you see them laughing.�

[...]

Silk wrote: �He is 66, so he obviously does not see himself as one of the people he wants to poke fun at, which is irrational. This could be his Gerald Ratner moment.

�I see similarities between him and Jeremy Clarkson. He could be Clarkson without the money - Clarkson has made a living from being offensive. Paxman tries to be the intellectual one but he�s lacking the charisma of Clarkson.

�I suspect that with the high media profile enjoyed by Mr Paxman, comes a massive ego as well � but perhaps it�s time for that ego to contemplate a little.

�Mr Paxman, you have just insulted over 21 million people (yes that�s how many over 50s there are in the UK), you have called them �cheesy and on the verge of incontinence� and I�m sure, on reflection you may regret such a statement.�

Paxman is a national treasure.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2016 10:40

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dispatch_async posted:

Not UK news, but interesting: http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0830/812819-apple-tax-ireland/

E: beaten like an Apple tax lawyer

# ¿ Aug 30, 2016 11:15

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Pissflaps posted:

I currently intend to not vote at all. I care about Labour forming a government at the next general election, and the ones that come after it.

The sad array of green and lib dem voters that have joined the party recently do not care about Labour forming a government. That's why I want Corbyn replaced with somebody competent, and they want him to remain in post.

That's why you refuse to vote for a Labour candidate who is in the Labour party and is against the Labour leader Corbae who you believe is the cancer that is killing Labour. Checks out.

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# ¿ Aug 31, 2016 21:55

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forkboy84 posted:

Well blaming any one person for the loss of a general election seems loving absurdly reductionist. Corbyn will get part of the blame, his team will get part of the blame, the MPs who refused to work with him because they can't accept that their side lost certainly deserve part of the blame, Tom Watson, Owen Smith, there's very few MPs who wouldn't deserve some portion of the blame, and I'm sure you could make a case for apportioning a tiny bit of blame down towards Blair & his chums for utterly failing to set Labour up for the end of Blair's term as PM. Hell, lets add Ed Miliband because it's his fault that Corbyn could be elected leader in the first place. Corbyn would get his fair share of the blame as leader but it's naive to pretend that the shenanigans of the past 6 months haven't hurt Labour's electability and he can't take all the blame for that. Some certainly, but not all of it.

Of course all that ignores that I hope Corbyn stands down at some point in 2018 or 2019, before the next general election. He's got a perfect opportunity to enact change to make the Labour Party more democratic, more responsive to the membership. I certainly hope that is the road he goes down. But there's not a lot of hope he's going to win a general election. Though nor is Owen Smith, Yvette Cooper, Dan Jarvis or any other oval office Labour can drag out. Not unless there's serious change in how the PLP are behaving themselves. (I did think Corbyn could win last year, even up until May or so this year, but too much damage has been done with little sign of an end to all the squabbling. And regardless of which side comes out on top, it's hugely off-putting to the wider electorate. Hell, even as a Labour member I'm dying for the election to be over just for the tiniest remote possibility that Labour can get back to opposing the government rather than its own members)

But yeah, the "nothing ever seems his fault to his supporters" line is utter loving bollocks that keeps being rolled out by lazy fuckers with no better argument. Plenty of people who voted for Corbyn last summer & will or have voted for him again this year are quite willing to criticise him when he genuinely fucks up. I certainly have. Numerous times, in real life, on social media, in UKMT. As have others. There is a tiny minority who seem to be trying to start a personality cult around Jeremy which is loving stupid & harmful to his electability, but pretending he doesn't get criticised by his supporters is just as stupid.

This is a good & true post.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2016 22:04

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Scikar posted:

I can see how you would get that impression when 90% of the attacks against him are bullshit, but if you pay attention to the 10% he still gets plenty of criticism from his own side in here. The PLP have opened this possibility up in the first place though with the constant backstabbing and not giving him a genuine chance.

That said, I very much doubt Corbyn will stay if he loses a general election, even people who blame the PLP for the loss will have to accept that the situation is untenable - either Corbyn or the obstructionist MPs would have to go and the MPs will be entrenched immediately after an election.

Not if they get deselected and replaced with red blooded socialists. Who are then entrenched and can put forward one of their own so Grandpa Corbyn can go back to his jam.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2016 22:08

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Scikar posted:

Even this case involves him quitting as leader though?

Yeah but actual left wing party Labour without Corbyn is still an actual left wing party. I don't (and I think few people) want a Corbyn party over generally dragging Labour to the left.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2016 22:12

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blowfish posted:

(stop posting)

...and it's Pissflaps o clock again (at which time he feels the need to inform me via PM that he's not, in fact, going to stop posting).

ps stop posting

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I would say """modern""" politics really has the bit about when you should act technocratic and when you should have debates and make subjective decisions and stuff.

At the really high level, modern neolib/Blairite/what-have-you delusions are a delusion that one overarching direction for high level policy is objectively superior rather than what people (either ~the people~ or decisionmakers acting in the interest of ~the people~ or of their favourite special interest group rather than as delegates) prefer. At lower, follow-on levels everyone is then supposed to have a say on how exactly to swallow the bitter pills delivered by the one true high level policy framework, when instead this is where policy should just be implemented without high-effort low-value feature creep.

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