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sonatinas posted:Can someone explain to me why Russia is the new boogeyman now? I know that they have some political clout with veto power on the security council and there are concerns about hacking but it seems like it's going to be Red Dawn to these people any second now. We haven't forgotten 1950-1990, Syria, Ukraine, and an increasingly fractious political environment in both countries.
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sonatinas posted:Can someone explain to me why Russia is the new boogeyman now? I know that they have some political clout with veto power on the security council and there are concerns about hacking but it seems like it's going to be Red Dawn to these people any second now. It probably has something to do with them invading Ukraine, and also being one of the major forces that propped up Assad in Syria and a major reason the US really didn't want to go in harder. Also, Putin's kind of a dick.
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sonatinas posted:Can someone explain to me why Russia is the new boogeyman now? I know that they have some political clout with veto power on the security council and there are concerns about hacking but it seems like it's going to be Red Dawn to these people any second now. They've been far more aggressive lately in trying to take territory, influence our elections and those in Europe? A "boogeyman" implies they aren't a threat/aren't acting even more aggressive then usual.
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sonatinas posted:Can someone explain to me why Russia is the new boogeyman now? I know that they have some political clout with veto power on the security council and there are concerns about hacking but it seems like it's going to be Red Dawn to these people any second now. It's been made known that the DNC hacks were probably perpetrated by Russian state sponsored hackers. The timing has made people suspicious that they're trying to bring us Lord President Trump.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Today I learned Gary Johnson is pro-TPP. He's the standard libertarian schtick, down to his supporting the (Un)FairTax
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Eifert Posting posted:Seriously. I've had former fifth grade Korean students message me talking about the Ukraine. Cassava farmers in a rural Liberian village four hours away from any paved road were worriedly asking us if Trump is going to win. Shortwave radio is still amazing.
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DemeaninDemon posted:This is probably the best advice ever in uspol that doesn't involve alcohol. 90% of my content posts in the crazy political emails thread comes from coworkers. I've removed them from my feed, but I can't help but go on a safari every now and then to see the stuff they post.
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Slate Action posted:The optimal media strategy would be to bash Trump for a while, then set up a comeback narrative in September. The only thing that truly hurts their ratings is a stagnant race. Something tells me that the media knows it's played chicken long enough with the possibility of a literal fascist becoming president, and the Khan story has given them enough room to go after him. You'll probably see Fox and CNN pushing the horse race poo poo until October, but outside of that I can't imagine them letting Trump or his team get away with all the poo poo they've given a pass to so far.
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sonatinas posted:Can someone explain to me why Russia is the new boogeyman now? I know that they have some political clout with veto power on the security council and there are concerns about hacking but it seems like it's going to be Red Dawn to these people any second now. ...they recently invaded a sovereign nation and claimed part of it as their own?
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zoux posted:This won't matter to the average voter but it's a HUGE deal for party insiders. I've been eagerly waiting for the tipping point where Trump does something so beyond the pale that the GOP elite come out to disown him solely because in 4-8 years they need to make sure another big mouth racist doesn't whip up the base to win the primary at the expense of winning a general election. Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:So the end game here is the media turning against Donald, right? If he pisses off/scorched-earths enough actual news departments instead of fawning leeches, they start covering him like the joke he is and get their ratings from laying into him? And this will enrage downticket repubs enough to take care of the problem? Yes, maybe? Trump has constantly lied or made outrageous comments that many in his own party attack him for, but everyone who was planning to vote Trump is still planning to vote Trump because they don't really care. It's people so self absorbed with their idea of how things should be and eager to demonize the "other" that literally nothing can sway them. The Atlantic had a piece with a Trump support, some mid 20s Bay area d-bag who bragged about how his situation makes him the typical Hillary voter but he's Trump all the way. Near the end he talks about wanting to keep illegal immigrant children from competing with his precious hypothetical child because he wants his offspring to have every possible advantage and that means ensuring no one else gets any support whatsoever. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/a-dialogue-with-a-22-year-old-donald-trump-supporter/484232/ quote:I cannot say openly that I identify with Republicans, lest I see friendships and potential professional connections disappear with those words. When I see Hillary Clinton, I see the world becoming less and less tolerant of right-leaning views.When I see Facebook censoring conservative outlets and then see The Atlantic defending the practice, that worries me. When I see the fear that reddit users have about admins banning subreddits because of political beliefs, that worries me.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Written by a former Washington Times writer, say hello to the lamest attempt at spin ever. Was just coming here to post this. It's not just lame, he's using every loving trick in the book to smear the Khans. Seriously disgusting. Gorilla Desperado fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Additionally, should I be terrified of the remaining 30,000 DNC emails that Aassange/FSB have? Like, I hope it's just more pointless chatter and work-related material.
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GalacticAcid posted:Couple pages back but yeah never read comment sections. Always read comment sections. That's what the religious right actually believe, don't let yourself be fooled or forget it. Read the comment sections, let them fuel your rage and keep you focused.
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Trump is in a fight with the parents of a dead soldier, and has recently insulted firefighters. Someone tell me how we can bait him into going after police officers next.
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https://twitter.com/bkesling/status/760157018430713856 okay rush Also the VFW sent out a letter denouncing Trump going after the Khans. He just addressed them last week. Good job.
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pentyne posted:I've been eagerly waiting for the tipping point where Trump does something so beyond the pale that the GOP elite come out to disown him solely because in 4-8 years they need to make sure another big mouth racist doesn't whip up the base to win the primary at the expense of winning a general election. Lmao I hope his Asian fiancé's friends and coworkers don't find this article. Tech money fucks with people's minds I guess.
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Star Man posted:Additionally, should I be terrified of the remaining 30,000 DNC emails that Aassange/FSB have? Like, I hope it's just more pointless chatter and work-related material. The interesting thing is, if they are sitting on it that might do WikiLeaks more harm. The Dems know exactly what was stolen and exactly what it says by this point. If anything is on it, they have had a month now to prepare for it. The original leak only worked because it caught them off guard.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Today I learned Gary Johnson is pro-TPP. Anyone going from Bernie Sanders to Gary Johnson is 100% ignorant of one of their sets of policies and is just voting based on wanting to vote for an outsider.
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edrith posted:https://twitter.com/bkesling/status/760157018430713856 Nope, all it will do is give the dudes who wank off to it more fantasies for if she becomes first lady.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The interesting thing is, if they are sitting on it that might do WikiLeaks more harm. The Dems know exactly what was stolen and exactly what it says by this point. If anything is on it, they have had a month now to prepare for it. The original leak only worked because it caught them off guard. It didn't even really "work" all that much except to rile up a few hardcore Bernouts. If they had something damning in those emails Assange would be physically unable to resist putting it out there ASAP and basking in the glow of the whistleblowing.
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Does anybody know a whole lot about Jeff Flake? I feel like I've seen him name popping up more and more over the past half year, and I feel like he's positioned pretty well to run as a moderate Republican alternative to Hilary in 2020, if he tamps down some of his more extreme positions (like being stridently pro-life, according to his wiki). Does he have any skeletons in his closet, or is he at least just a lovely politician?
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Chokes McGee posted:It didn't even really "work" all that much except to rile up a few hardcore Bernouts. If they had something damning in those emails Assange would be physically unable to resist putting it out there ASAP and basking in the glow of the whistleblowing. It got DWS fired, which I remember making a punch of Democrats happy.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Today I learned Gary Johnson is pro-TPP. There was an r/politics post with "Gary Johnson supports TPP" and the top comment with hundreds of upvotes was "gently caress, WHO DO I VOTE FOR?" So some of them know and are being turned off by it, even though I guarantee they can't articulate why exactly they think the TPP is bad.
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Dear Rush,  Signed, This member of the LGBTQ community. WampaLord posted:There was an r/politics post with "Gary Johnson supports TPP" and the top comment with hundreds of upvotes was "gently caress, WHO DO I VOTE FOR?" The most common one I hear is something to do with IP rights. Given TPP is designed to dick over China and China has fucktons of knockoffs, it makes sense there would be a clause protecting IP.
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Chokes McGee posted:It didn't even really "work" all that much except to rile up a few hardcore Bernouts. If they had something damning in those emails Assange would be physically unable to resist putting it out there ASAP and basking in the glow of the whistleblowing. Not only that, the only thing with any meat to them were brainstorming things that didn't go anywhere, or people calling each other bitch via emails. Night10194 posted:It got DWS fired, which I remember making a punch of Democrats happy. She was already on her way out, but she gets to leave in disgrace now which is even better.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Not only that, the only thing with any meat to them were brainstorming things that didn't go anywhere, or people calling each other bitch via emails. Remember when Assange said he'd release something that would FOR SURE GET HILLARY ARRESTED, THIS TIME FOR REAL! during her acceptance speech and he released nothing? Good times.
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ImpAtom posted:Anyone going from Bernie Sanders to Gary Johnson is 100% ignorant of one of their sets of policies and is just voting based on wanting to vote for an outsider. Honestly, zero of my Facebook friends have said a positive thing about Trump (probably because anyone who would, I've already defriended or hidden them from my timeline). But I've seen a lot of Gary Johnson posts, and I simply point out some of his terrible economic policies and they have nothing to say other than "better than Trump or Hillary!" Seriously, they've only heard that he wants to end the war on drugs and is LGBT friendly and they're like "totally awesome! Vote Johnson!"
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Mahoning posted:Honestly, zero of my Facebook friends have said a positive thing about Trump (probably because anyone who would, I've already defriended or hidden them from my timeline). But I've seen a lot of Gary Johnson posts, and I simply point out some of his terrible economic policies and they have nothing to say other than "better than Trump or Hillary!" Seriously, they've only heard that he wants to end the war on drugs and is LGBT friendly and they're like "totally awesome! Vote Johnson!" Libertarians are republicans who want to smoke weed, really.
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Clinton's speech was slightly below the historical average http://www.gallup.com/poll/194084/americans-positive-democratic-gop-convention.aspx?g_source=Election%202016&g_medium=lead&g_campaign=tiles quote:The most anticipated event at modern political conventions is the presidential nominee's acceptance speech. Overall, 44% of Americans gave Clinton's speech a positive rating, saying it was either "excellent" or "good." That is significantly higher than the 35% who rated Trump's speech positively. In fact, as many Americans rated Trump's speech negatively, saying it was "poor" or "terrible." I have a feeling some of this relates more to the increase polarization than the actual quality of speeches. theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 1, 2016 |
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Kentucky news: So governor Bevin recently dissolved the entire board at University of Louisville. He then replaced the board with 10 of his friends from church and 3 others, not sure where they came from. Right now there's a lawsuit filed saying essentially "the governor can't just remove people without cause." Turns out, one of the requirements for accreditation from SACS, the group that provides UofL's accreditation, is that a school's board cannot lose members without cause. Most people said this wouldn't be that big of a deal, SACS wouldn't actually de-accredit Louisville. At a hearing two weeks back, we found out SACS has actually started an investigation into the governor's plan and stated it could cause loss of accreditation though they said it would take time to complete. Fortunately, Friday, a judge blocked Bevin's new board from making any decisions until the lawsuit is complete, granting a temporary injunction. From the wording of the ruling on the temporary injunction, it really sounds like Bevin is going to lose. Bevin's actual no-poo poo argument was that he didn't remove any members of the board, he simply abolished the board and some members happened to be on it at the time.
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Mahoning posted:Honestly, zero of my Facebook friends have said a positive thing about Trump (probably because anyone who would, I've already defriended or hidden them from my timeline). But I've seen a lot of Gary Johnson posts, and I simply point out some of his terrible economic policies and they have nothing to say other than "better than Trump or Hillary!" Seriously, they've only heard that he wants to end the war on drugs and is LGBT friendly and they're like "totally awesome! Vote Johnson!" A vote for Johnson isn't a vote for Trump at least!
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Star Man posted:Additionally, should I be terrified of the remaining 30,000 DNC emails that Aassange/FSB have? Like, I hope it's just more pointless chatter and work-related material. Assange is saying its stuff thats like, really really bad this time.
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theblackw0lf posted:Clinton's speech was slightly below the historical average The most common reaction to it I saw was 'Clinton Sticks the Landing', namely that it was kind of average but that the DNC as a whole went so well that it was good enough.
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Luna Was Here posted:Assange is saying its stuff thats like, really really bad this time. But is it as bad as the Putin dick breath he has?
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https://twitter.com/sopandeb/status/760169162249539584 These people absolutely cannot be reasoned with. Forget about throwing facts and charts at them on Facebook. They're just going to believe whatever makes them feel comfortable. pentyne posted:I've been eagerly waiting for the tipping point where Trump does something so beyond the pale that the GOP elite come out to disown him solely because in 4-8 years they need to make sure another big mouth racist doesn't whip up the base to win the primary at the expense of winning a general election. Mark my words, the tipping point will be if/when Trump is down 10-15 points or more late in the race and is no longer a viable candidate. That's when you'll see all the mainstream and elite republicans finally find their morals and withdraw their support instead of just strongly denouncing him.
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Mahoning posted:Honestly, zero of my Facebook friends have said a positive thing about Trump (probably because anyone who would, I've already defriended or hidden them from my timeline). But I've seen a lot of Gary Johnson posts, and I simply point out some of his terrible economic policies and they have nothing to say other than "better than Trump or Hillary!" Seriously, they've only heard that he wants to end the war on drugs and is LGBT friendly and they're like "totally awesome! Vote Johnson!"
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FactsAreUseless posted:
Makes sense to me. He supports the Democrats because they have great Chemtrail Skill.
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