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origami posted:I think Conor is entertaining and has cool fights and I eagerly look forward to him winning or (most likely) losing against Nate Diaz i have a feeling that he'll win but i'm not sure why
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Guy wearing jiu jitsu shirt picks Conor? For shame.
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Aug 3, 2016 14:29
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Foul Fowl posted:i have a feeling that he'll win but i'm not sure why Because Nate is on a two win streak and overdue a loss?
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Aug 3, 2016 14:41
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Foul Fowl posted:i have a feeling that he'll win but i'm not sure why If you forced me to pick one, I'd say Nate takes it in the rematch, but I also think it's entirely possible that Conor is able to stop him in the first or second.
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Aug 3, 2016 14:48
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Its too bad that Lawler died but not everyone can hold the belt for 10 years at a time
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Aug 3, 2016 15:13
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overeem is going to be champ soon
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Aug 3, 2016 15:33
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Left Hook Larry and Right Hook Reem, two English champs in one year. Unless he loses, then he's dutch again.
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Aug 3, 2016 15:53
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quote:In the standing position, a fighter that moves their arm(s) toward their opponent with an open hand, fingers pointing at the opponent's face/eyes, will be a foul. I hope they call this the Jon Jones rule.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:06
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mistakinder posted:Because Nate is on a two win streak and overdue a loss? moreso that conor's childish tantrums have obscured the fact that he's a meticulous strategist, and i don't think he'll mind making it a really ugly fight so he won't rack up two losses in a row. maybe i'm dead wrong but i kinda think we'll see a lot of oblique kicks and lateral movement and whatever else conor can do to avoid trading punches with nate which is always gonna be a losing game for him.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:14
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Foul Fowl posted:moreso that conor's childish tantrums have obscured the fact that he's a meticulous strategist I don't believe him or Kavanagh when they claim they don't bother training for their opponent's style, but I don't believe this other extreme is true either.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:24
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red19fire posted:I hope they call this the Jon Jones rule. What does this mean for the Stockton slap. Also is the Stockton slap dumb, or do they only throw it when a punch isn't possible?
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Aug 3, 2016 16:24
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Shumagorath posted:God those were great promos. The most appropriate video promo was "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" for Anderson/Weidman 2, because it in fact resulted in someone having to carry him home
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Aug 3, 2016 16:25
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Bluedeanie posted:I don't believe him or Kavanagh when they claim they don't bother training for their opponent's style, but I don't believe this other extreme is true either. i don't think it's too much of a stretch considering everything we know about him. he figured out everyone he fought at featherweight really easily, including the best featherweight of all time.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:30
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TheUltimateDoofus posted:overeem is going to be champ soon Minakov is going to be so pissed
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Aug 3, 2016 16:37
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this was so good
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Aug 3, 2016 16:44
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the cool thing about overeem as the new late career resurgence guy is that it won't be heartbreaking when he gets ko'd. it will be comforting, a return to the time before the woodley era, when there was joy in the world.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:50
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:What does this mean for the Stockton slap. The slap is demoralising; a way of humiliating your opponent and asserting your dominance. It is the ultimate challenge to their manhood. In days gone by Nathan would have used a silk glove for the same effect.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:51
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It's good to slap your opponent. It's like in tthe one rousey fight where I don't remember who is doing buttscoot and rousey leans over and punches her directly in the boob. Effective? Not really. But it lets your opponent know that you don't like them, and if you see them in the hospital later you're going to fight them again.
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Aug 3, 2016 16:58
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Groin strikes should be fair game. If you can check a leg kick you can check a nut shot. Everyone gets kicked in the bollocks at least once a fight now anyway, I'm sure Matt Brown would rather take one to the balls than his poor old liver
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Aug 3, 2016 17:16
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TheUltimateDoofus posted:this was so good yeah, he's been fuckin guys up lately
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Aug 3, 2016 17:42
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Skip My Posts posted:yeah, he's been fuckin guys up lately That hook he put JDS out with was nasty.
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Aug 3, 2016 18:31
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Skip My Posts posted:yeah, he's been fuckin guys up lately he's never really not been loving guys up except for those blips with mir and roy
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Aug 3, 2016 18:45
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I like overeem and look forward to him winning
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Triticum Guzzler posted:he's never really not been loving guys up except for those blips with mir and roy True. He hasn't gotten hosed up brutally in a while
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Aug 3, 2016 19:07
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Triticum Guzzler posted:he's never really not been loving guys up except for those blips with mir and roy in fairness, roy did kind of get hosed up 
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Aug 3, 2016 19:26
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Bluedeanie posted:I don't believe him or Kavanagh when they claim they don't bother training for their opponent's style, but I don't believe this other extreme is true either. It's funny they've been saying that but now for this Nate fight they've been bringing in world class BJJ guys and tall, lengthy boxers for Conor to train with. Nate was finally the guy that Conor really needed to prep for.
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Aug 3, 2016 19:28
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2 fat 4 my lambo posted:in fairness, roy did kind of get hosed up incredible
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Aug 3, 2016 19:54
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Le Saboteur posted:It's funny they've been saying that but now for this Nate fight they've been bringing in world class BJJ guys and tall, lengthy boxers for Conor to train with. Nate was finally the guy that Conor really needed to prep for. That was the whole crux of the press conference thing. Conor will fight anybody, anytime, anywhere at any weight, it doesn't matter they will all fall - except for Nate, for whom his camp needed to be uninterrupted because Nate's bigger than him
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Aug 3, 2016 20:02
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Work Friend Keven posted:It's good to slap your opponent. It's like in tthe one rousey fight where I don't remember who is doing buttscoot and rousey leans over and punches her directly in the boob. Effective? Not really. But it lets your opponent know that you don't like them, and if you see them in the hospital later you're going to fight them again. She's like a Diaz brother. In a beautiful loving- *is immediately executed*
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Aug 3, 2016 20:07
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Best Friends posted:She's like a Diaz brother. I don't think either of the Diaz brothers have run out to the woods with Travis Browne yet.
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Aug 3, 2016 20:22
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Without Travis Browne? Yes. Repeatedly. But with him? No.
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Le Saboteur posted:It's funny they've been saying that but now for this Nate fight they've been bringing in world class BJJ guys and tall, lengthy boxers for Conor to train with. Nate was finally the guy that Conor really needed to prep for. Conor finally has a guy who he can't bully because he's far smaller than him. Conor should start bragging more about his ability to weight cut since that's his true skill.
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Scapegoat posted:Conor finally has a guy who he can't bully because he's far smaller than him. Conor should start bragging more about his ability to weight cut since that's his true skill. lol
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Scapegoat posted:Conor finally has a guy who he can't bully because he's far smaller than him. Conor should start bragging more about his ability to weight cut since that's his true skill. retarded
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Aug 3, 2016 22:07
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Foul Fowl posted:moreso that conor's childish tantrums have obscured the fact that he's a meticulous strategist, and i don't think he'll mind making it a really ugly fight so he won't rack up two losses in a row. maybe i'm dead wrong but i kinda think we'll see a lot of oblique kicks and lateral movement and whatever else conor can do to avoid trading punches with nate which is always gonna be a losing game for him. He does the same things in every single fight, down to throwing the same tkd/capoeira kicks that always miss by a country mile at the same point in the first round. It's like he's performing choreography. It's not at all hard to believe that he doesn't prepare specifically. He does the same foot work, etc. against everyobe
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But also almost everyday does the exact same things no matter who they are fighting and what their gameplan is. It's very rare that someone adds a new wrinkle to their game effectively for just one opponent, and even more rare when someone abandons their usual habits and finds success. I can think of lots of people failing miserably with opponent specific gameplans, but not a lot of success stories of guys really stepping out of their comfort zone
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mistakinder posted:Groin strikes should be fair game. If you can check a leg kick you can check a nut shot. Everyone gets kicked in the bollocks at least once a fight now anyway, I'm sure Matt Brown would rather take one to the balls than his poor old liver gently caress it just make UFC a contest where both guys kick each other in the balls until one of them quits
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david carmichael posted:But also almost everyday does the exact same things no matter who they are fighting and what their gameplan is. It's very rare that someone adds a new wrinkle to their game effectively for just one opponent, and even more rare when someone abandons their usual habits and finds success. remember the time juanito ibarra spent a whole camp with rampage trying to bring his jab up a few inches because forrest griffin is tall, then he almost got leg kick tko'd and lost a 10-8 by getting mounted for one whole hour in a single five minute round
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The problem with game planning like some fans seem to expect is that a fighter isnt an rpg character. You cant just put effort in at bjj and magically get better than nate or put in some time wrestling and be suddenly able to grind on nate for 5 rounds. You tweak what youre good at enough to be able to be effective at it by exploiting your opponents weaknesses. Conors path to victory against Nate is staying outside of his boxing range through the use of kicks to the legs and body and change up often. The problem is like anyone who fights a diaz keeping up the necessary pace is something only a handful of guys have ever been able to do and similarly being able to survive the diaz onslaught when you inevitably get tired and start getting hit. I fully expect Conor to look fantastic in the first round and start to wilt half way through the second into the third where he'll cop a battering in the latter rounds. Conors talent has always been giving just enough ground without taking damage to land that kill shot. Even when he wasnt finishing guys he was getting the ascendency in the fight through those talents. Nates jab game is just too good and his unyielding pace and pressure is a bad mix for conor. Diaz wont just rush in, he doesnt get frustrated on the feet and is content just to stand back a flip you off till he gets his chance to go to work.
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