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birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:29

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thatfatkid: Feb 20, 2011; by Azathoth

This is even worse than Pavel posting. :/

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:35

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

thatfatkid posted:

This is even worse than Pavel posting. :/

everything is worse than that by default

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:40

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

So Turnbull made a "Captain's Call" eh?

Isn't making decisions outside of Cabinets purview part of what brought Abbott down? Hell, in this case Cabinet voted in favour of Rudd as secretary general and then Turnbull canned it anyway.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:45

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

It's been way too long since the last round of leadership speculation anyway.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:46

Ten Becquerels: Apr 17, 2012; My Little Tony: Leadership is Magic

Scott Morrison for PM :getin:

# ? Aug 3, 2016 00:51

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

When an entire nation's judiciary and executive won't stop acting like shitheels we need other jurisdicitions to actually give a poo poo about human rights. Oh and looks like it isn't just youth detention in the NT that's piss poor (I was shocked).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/unhrc-asked-to-probe-nt-man-restraint/7683346

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Northern Territory prison's treatment of intellectually disabled Aboriginal man referred to UN By the National Reporting Team's Natasha Robinson and Alison Branley Updated about 3 hours ago

The United Nations Human Rights Council is being asked to investigate the case of an intellectually disabled Aboriginal man who has been repeatedly strapped to a restraint chair in an Alice Springs prison.

Key points:

Intellectually disabled Aboriginal man forcibly restrained, sedated on 17 occasions since 2012, guardian claims
Malcolm Morton held in arbitrary detention in the NT, UN Human Rights Council told
Mr Morton's guardian says use of restraint chair "is unnecessary"
Malcolm Morton, 25, is being held in the maximum security wing of the Alice Springs Correctional Centre and has been forcibly restrained in a chair and sedated on about 17 occasions since 2012, according to his guardian.

Australian Human Rights Commission president Gillian Triggs said it has received at least 10 complaints from the guardians of other intellectually disabled prisoners, most of them Aboriginal, who have also been forcibly restrained in prisons. "I'm aware over the last two or three years of something like 10 or so of these kinds of complaints," Professor Triggs said. Professor Triggs said that when the issue has been raised with the Federal Government, "they have quite simply washed their hands of the whole affair and said it's nothing to do with the Commonwealth". The revelations follow international condemnation of the use of a restraint chair to contain Dylan Voller, a young Aboriginal man who was threatening self-harm in an NT prison.

UN commissioner shocked at 'inhuman and cruel treatment'

Following the broadcast of the images of Mr Voller restrained in the chair wearing a spit hood, the UN's High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein, issued a statement saying he was shocked at the inhumane and cruel treatment of children in detention in the NT. Now, the UN Human Rights Council has been told that Mr Morton is being held in arbitrary detention in the NT, that he is being subject to cruel and degrading treatment, and that the Commonwealth Government has failed to intervene to provide secure care. Professor Patrick Keyzer drafted the United Nations complaint that was recently lodged. "The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights has been extremely concerned about the revelations from the Don Dale Youth Detention Centre, and we anticipate the UN will also be very concerned about the revelation that restraint chairs are used in other parts of the corrections system in the NT, particularly in relation to vulnerable prisoners," Professor Keyzer said. "I think Malcolm's treatment could certainly be described as inhuman and degrading. Certainly there will be evidence put and allegations made that characterises Malcolm's treatment in those terms."
While Mr Morton has been restrained numerous times, there is no suggestion he has been hooded.

Mr Morton was born with severe intellectual impairments and also has been diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder and epilepsy. In 2007 in the remote central Australian community of Santa Teresa, Mr Morton fatally stabbed his uncle Simon Wallace. Mr Wallace was a mechanic in Santa Teresa and was caring for Mr Morton with virtually no support from NT disability services. Doctors in the community had repeatedly warned that without proper treatment Mr Morton would be a danger to himself and others. A Northern Territory judge found in 2009 that Mr Morton was unfit to plead to a charge of murder. He has been held in maximum security conditions in prison ever since, however currently is granted day release to a secure health unit that adjoins the Alice Springs Correctional Centre.

Guards 'don't have the necessary set of skills'

Mr Morton's legal guardian Patrick McGee, who is also the coordinator of the Aboriginal Disability Justice Campaign, has repeatedly raised complaints with the NT and Federal governments about Mr Morton's restraint and sedation. Mr McGee wants Mr Morton to be provided with appropriate disability care and to be released from prison. "Malcolm is considered a serious risk of harm to himself and others, that is, he uses violence as a form of communication," Mr McGee said.
"He's never been taught to communicate using verbal language, and his disability is such that he has very poor receptive and expressive language. "He often spends large amounts of time in his cell. Ten out of every 12 hours could be spent in his cell. He has to be escorted when he's out of his cell by prison officers. "And because he has an intellectual disability and this is a maximum security prison many of the prison officers don't have the necessary set of skills to actually manage him. As his guardian what we would be saying is a maximum security prison is the wrong place for people with intellectual disabilities and he should be on the care and treatment of the Department of Health, their office of disability."

Restraint chairs 'barbaric', 'a last resort'

Mr McGee said the use of the restraint chair on Mr Morton was as "a barbaric use of restraint that is unnecessary. "The position of the prison is that they can't allow him to continue to hurt himself," Mr McGee said. "In the absence of any other alternatives what they do is they enter the cell and manhandle him into a restraint chair. They strap him into a restraint chair and they usually inject him with some kind of tranquiliser until he's compliant and calm. They've done this about 17 times between 2012 and 2015. Our position has always been that if they have to resort to this kind of intervention then he is in absolutely the wrong place because there are alternatives to this type of intervention."

The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists describes the use of restraint as an "extreme" measure that should only be used as a last resort.

"We would not support the use of restraint chairs or indeed some of the other very restrictive and aggressive measures that we saw highlighted [in the Four Corners program] last week," said the College's president Malcolm Hopwood. The EVIL Greens' Indigenous affairs spokesperson Rachel Siewert, who was re-elected to the Federal Senate this week, said she would move to restart a parliamentary inquiry into the indefinite detention of people with cognitive impairment. Senator Siewert said the use of restraint on people such as Mr Morton should be urgently investigated. "I look forward to pursuing this inquiry and shedding some light on this issue," Senator Siewert said. "The community is now seeing the impact of race to the bottom to be 'tough on crime'. Prisons are not the place for people with cognitive impairment who are found unfit to plead."

When questioned about the treatment of Mr Morton, a spokesperson for Attorney-General George Brandis said it was a matter for the Northern Territory Government. The NT Government has not yet responded to requests for comment.

What do you do with broken people? Why you break them some more because that always works.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/png-court-orders-manus-resettlement-plan-by-thursday/7684258

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Manus Island: Papua New Guinea court orders Australia to present detainee resettlement plan Updated 44 minutes ago

Papua New Guinea's Supreme Court has ordered Australia to present a resettlement plan for nearly 900 asylum seekers held in what it ruled in April is an illegal detention centre on Manus Island.

The Supreme Court said it would call on Australia to provide a representative on Thursday to provide details on a resettlement plan. "The court has embarked on this process on issue of resettlement. That is a matter for the two governments, what we want is for them to be released," said Ben Lomai, a lawyer for some of the detainees. A spokesman from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection said "The Australian Government is aware of the matter, but is not a party to the proceedings. Beyond this, it would not be appropriate to provide further comment as the matter remains before the court."

Mr Lomai told Radio New Zealand staff from Australia's High Commission in PNG had taken note of the hearing. The Supreme Court ruled more than three months ago that the Regional Processing Centre, used to house asylum seekers trying to reach Australia, was illegal. It was approved by the Papua New Guinea Government and is funded by the Australian Government. Prime Minister Peter O'Neill ordered the closure of the Manus centre after the Supreme Court ruling, raising the question where will the detainees be resettled. Many in Papua New Guinea do not want the asylum seekers in their community.

Human rights groups say tensions are rising in the detention centre, which has a history of violent protests and self harm by detainees.

Under Australia's hardline immigration policy, anyone intercepted trying to reach the country by boat is sent for processing to camps on Manus Island in Papua New Guinea or Nauru. The asylum seekers are not eligible to be resettled in Australia. Australian Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has said April's ruling would not alter Australia's border policies. Of the nearly 900 in the detention centre on Manus Island, about half have been found to be refugees. PNG's Immigration Department is due to respond to statements filed to the Supreme Court from the first five of more than 200 refugees and asylum seekers outlining their intentions not to accept resettlement. The centre operators and PNG's immigration authorities have moved refugees out of detention and into a transit centre near the main town of Lorengau.

More on this story:

Supreme Court adjourns refugee resettlement case
Uncertainty over asylum camp's future sparks Manus community tensions
PNG responsible for Manus Island asylum seekers, Dutton says
PM to shut Manus Island detention centre
Court finds detention of asylum seekers on Manus Island illegal

In a desperate attempt to expunge itself of Queenslanders or perhaps it is the sheer weight of Pauline Hanson's ignorance:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-02/ipswich-sinkhole-swallows-backyard-west-of-brisbane/7682332

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Sinkhole swallows part of Ipswich backyard; abandoned mine may be to blame By Ellie Sibson Updated yesterday at 8:03pm

Historical mine maps and plans are being reviewed after a sinkhole filled with swirling water opened up in the backyard of a home in Ipswich, west of Brisbane. A neighbour alerted Lynn and Ray McKay about 9:00am after noticing the hole opening up on their Basin Pocket property. The hole has since increased to about eight metres in diameter. "Well, we don't get up 'til late because we are retired," he said. "Nine o'clock I got a knock on the door and it's the chap from next door. He was out watering his tomato plants and he said 'Do you want the good news or the bad news?' I come out and I've got a hole in the ground, it was only a little one, a metre, and it's just got bigger since."

Queensland Utilities were called, in the belief that a water pipe had burst, however the McKays were told there were no related pipes in the area. Mayor Paul Pisasale said it could be related the old mines in the area. "We've identified the fact that there's a shaft put in here many many years ago," he said. "There's no sewerage lines here. What it is is old mine workings. No-one knows what has happened but we will know in the next couple of days." He said the McKays, who have lived at the house in Coal Street for 25 years, were also victims of the 2011 floods. "I can assure Ray and Lynn they won't be alone," he said. "We're there to solve the problem. It's a community problem. It's not about local government or state government, this is about making sure that these two people know that they are not going to be left alone."

The property has been cordoned off and the McKays have been moved out temporarily.

A Department of Natural Resources and Mines spokeswoman said a review of historical mine maps and plans in the area was underway as part of the investigation into the possible cause. "The department is working with the Department of Environment and Heritage Protection to determine an appropriate method to pump and dispose of water from the sinkhole," the spokeswoman said.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:14

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

I love how their house is on Coal Street. Were the houses built after the mining finished? Sounds like poor planning to build streets and houses on top of old mine shafts.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:15

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

The catacombs of Ipswitch.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:17

NPR Journalizard: Feb 14, 2008

In news that will surprise noone, Australia is still torturing people intentionally.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/amnesty-hrw-enter-nauru-undercover-to-document-sustained-abuse/7684342

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Australia is explicitly ignoring the inhumane treatment of refugees held on Nauru as a means of deterring others from attempting the journey to Australia, two peak rights groups have found in separate trips to the island nation in a damning new report.

Amnesty International, working in conjunction with Human Rights Watch, travelled to and documented the conditions for asylum seekers and refugees in Australian-funded detention on Nauru over the past few months.

They were forced to send investigators incognito after a number of requests for official visits were rebuffed or ignored.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:19

EvilElmo: May 10, 2009

So I still can't find the Bill Shorten "quote" that Buzzfeed were spreading on twitter appear anywhere else. I would have thought that kind of line was worthy of reporting, but it seems not.

Have any of you seen it pop up elsewhere?

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:26

Jonah Galtberg: Feb 11, 2009

EvilElmo posted:

So I still can't find the Bill Shorten "quote" that Buzzfeed were spreading on twitter appear anywhere else. I would have thought that kind of line was worthy of reporting, but it seems not.

Have any of you seen it pop up elsewhere?

Yes, out of everything else in the news today this is the hot button issue worth spending this much energy pursuing

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:37

EvilElmo: May 10, 2009

Jonah Galtberg posted:

Yes, out of everything else in the news today this is the hot button issue worth spending this much energy pursuing

The benefit of forums, you can talk about multiple things at the same time.

It was a hot issue yesterday, many posters on here got raging hardons as it was further evidence of how fukt the ALP were. So just checking to see if it was another made up buzzfeed tweet or if someone had actually reported on it. I'm sure how excited posters got about it yesterday they would be following it closely.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 01:41

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

Usually that sort of thing would pop up in the Graun's politics live blog, but that appears to be on a break. There's certainly no news stories I can find that backs it up, which is good as Shorten backing NSW Labor's stupid position would be stupid.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 02:39

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Frogmanv2 posted:

In news that will surprise noone, Australia is still torturing people intentionally.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-03/amnesty-hrw-enter-nauru-undercover-to-document-sustained-abuse/7684342

Nobody is surprised. So many people are ok with it on a national level that you could probably call it no longer news but the status quo.

Maybe that should be the news instead? "Australians yawn, really don't care about torture."

# ? Aug 3, 2016 02:43

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Yes it's real.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 02:54

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Yes it's real.

"How much abuse did he suffer while in Don Dale?"

CLP: "Clearly just the right amount"

# ? Aug 3, 2016 03:17

freebooter: Jul 7, 2009

If anyone was following the Melbourne Ports battle, pick up a copy of the St Kilda News and check out Michael Danby's two-page post-election opinion piece, which is literally nothing but a huge red-raced rant about the Greens. No "thank you for your confidence in me" to the electorate, no "I will be fighting for the people of Melbourne Ports in Canberra," etc. Just a loving massive dummy spit. What a detestable man.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 03:19

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

I'd be surprised if he's even running next election. He's sure as gently caress not gonna win if he does.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 03:44

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

freebooter posted:

If anyone was following the Melbourne Ports battle, pick up a copy of the St Kilda News and check out Michael Danby's two-page post-election opinion piece, which is literally nothing but a huge red-raced rant about the Greens. No "thank you for your confidence in me" to the electorate, no "I will be fighting for the people of Melbourne Ports in Canberra," etc. Just a loving massive dummy spit. What a detestable man.

Is this it?

St Kilda News posted:

CAMPAIGN DIARY

By The Hon Michael Danby MP
Continuing Instability is the outcome of this election: As well as the re-election of Senator Pauline Hanson; election of Senator Derryn Hinch; (who is urging a vote against 18C the anti -harassment provision- Racial Discrimination Act).

Even Malcolm Turnbull must have realized that only half the normal quota (of 14.6% of the vote) was required in any State to elect a Senator. The constitutional manoeuvre of a Double Dissolution was designed to see the Liberal Government add to the numbers in the Senate and House so as to pass legislation against unions at a joint session. In fact there not the numbers in a joint sitting of Senate/ House to pass the Libs anti- union bill about which the election was ostensibly called. So the raison de�tre of the whole election was farce.

Labor may not quite have the numbers in the H.O. R. Libs 90?76, Labor 55?69 (If the coalition doesn�t force a dodgy by-election in Herbert). Now the new Senate apart from providing �stable� government, will require 10 of the 11 non Labor, non- Green, Independent �fruit bats� to vote for any legislation to pass both Houses�. �Confusion to our enemies?�, the problem is that this confusion affects not our enemies, but the Government of Australia representing the people of Australia. Australia is more difficult to govern, as the result of Turnbull�s insistence on this Double D.

Her Majesty�s Loyal Opposition, after insisting on privacy and sunset clauses, will be called on in all crucial security issues to support the Government with the security of Australians. Labor will act, no Orlandos, no Brussels, no Paris attacks here in Australia. No thanks to the irresponsible Greens, who oppose all legislation affecting the security of Australia.

Locally, the 8 week campaign sucked me into a vortex. Dorothy arrived very quickly from Kansas. My year- long campaign against Victorian Liberal Party Chief Michael Kroger and his prospective deal to give the Green Party preferences ahead of Labor, was widely discussed around the country. Danby attack ads appeared on Kroger, linking him to the Green Party. Major Liberal donors were pressuring Turnbull, �to do a Howard� and overrule against preferencing the �far left� Green Party over the �centre left� Labor Party.

3 weeks of advertising pressured Kroger. My campaign culminated in an address to the Sydney Institute just before the cold wet weeks of pre polling commenced.

My speech catalysed the critique of Kroger�s plan to direct Lib preferences to the Greens. To a hall in Sydney packed with judges, business people, journalists and other Cognoscenti. I explained my purpose �� Surely, Liberal voters are diametrically opposed to the Greens Party on all matters political, socio-economic and national security. There must be some ethics in politics.�

I pointed out that the Liberal�s second longest � serving Prime Minister, �John Howard has been warning against such a deal since 2010�. Howard told me at the ASPI security conference in Canberra in April, that he opposed such a policy. Later he told Paul Murray on Sky, 25 May, �The Greens are the real extremists in this election� (They) are not in Australia�s interests��..� Malcolm Turnbull, �I told the Sydney Institute�, unlike Mr Howard, �Malcolm Turnbull is sitting on the fence�. Does Turnbull think so little of political beliefs and differences, that he would be complicit in this Green- Liberal deal? If Michael Kroger instructs Liberal voters to preference the far-left Green Party in Batman and Wills�, I told the Sydney Institute, �Mr Turnbull should follow the advice of his mentor, former Prime Minister Howard, and rule out this plan�.

�It is sheer Chutzpah for Malcolm Turnbull to rail against the prospect that Labor would agree to a Labor-Greens coalition in a hung Parliament ,(Bill Shorten has ruled it out),while his agents (Kroger) negotiate actual deals to give the Green Party a � leg-up�, I urged.

A day and a half later, Turnbull in one of the few decisive actions he took during this election, ordered Kroger to stand down. No Liberal preferences in Batman and Wills would go to the Green Party. Peter Khalil and even David Feeney were saved. Who says individual members of parliament can�t affect the general course of events?

Back in Melbourne Ports, Owen Guest, heir to the Guest biscuit fortune was the latest absentee landlord with whom the Tory hierarchy tried to saddle us. The Victorian Libs hierarchy figure Ports is unwinnable, while I�m the member. Despite it being the wealthiest by per capita income seat held by Labor in Australia. Kroger and co usually outsource it to some rich bozo who can self- finance the campaign.

Firstly we had the famous Fiona Snedden, who told the first Gay Forum in Melbourne Ports that �her gardener was gay, her hairdresser was gay and her manicurist too�. We had the well-heeled David Southwick in 2004 subsequently given the consolation prize of the State Seat of Caulfield. More recently, we had the underwhelming heir, the Held Optometry fortune- Alan Held. This time East Melbourne�s heir to the Guest biscuit fortune was the pea, that the Tories got to run their formularic campaign, e.g. illuminated billboard on Kingsway (at $35,000k) a month � Feb, March, April & May.)

Guest�s notoriety is as the president of the Royal Tennis Association (as in the Tudors). He�s built and paid for a Royal Tennis court and advised the plebs in Ports, that the game is �vigorous� and �not to be played by sissies�. Kroger, like Julie Bishop, who turned up at the pre-poll, are both very angry with me because of my unrelenting expose of their policies. Polling shows the Green Party lost the local campaign when their candidate refused to speak at a Jewish forum. At previous similar forums, during the 2010 & 2013 elections, the Greens Party attended and the debates were unreported. No bad publicity.

Kroger turned up to the Jewish debate that the Green Party boycotted, which was hosted by the weekly Jewish News.� Kroger stood grimly at the back of the AJN forum, behind the two or three hundred audience watching his latest candidate parrot his rote speech. It was ugly. I said Guest�s Dad, a Vic Upper House MLC, was a nice bloke. The Liberal Candidates response was �Danby never achieved anything, he was insufficiently supportive of the 20% plus of the local Australian Jewish community�. Guest barked out his strictly learnt rave. People groaned. Even the Libs in the audience thought this was a bridge too far. However, Owen�s lowest point came later, at Pre-poll in East St Kilda, when he drew me aside and begged me to distribute the �How to Vote Card� where the Greens were preferenced behind the Liberals after people were asked to vote for me and Labor as Number 1.

The Green Party debated me at 2 further forums before the election which was unremarkable except for their poor attendance. Di Natale�s speech at the National Press Club became contentious at one forum. Di Natale said the Green Party would negotiate with the Liberals to participate in the Plebiscite on Marriage Equality. This was exposed by me to a small LGBTQI forum. Green Party supporters squealed that it was unfair to point this out. Unfortunately this Libs/Greens collaboration seems to have not been widely understood by local voters, who only read about it in a Candidate Survey published on election day. (see below)

The Green candidate this time was from Green Central Casting. She moved into a flat in Elwood from Daylesford and she insisted to voters running the gauntlet at pre polling, that she was �Local Green Candidate�. Even producing a Youtube, extolling the virtues of St Kilda Pier and other local delights, which the hipster colonists from across the Yarra and Daylesford had just discovered. All the double barrelled anglo names Hanson-Young, Whish-Wilson & Hodgkins-May used to be Tories, now they are Green Party. What is that? During the 3 grim weeks at pre polling, a large male from the Hodgins-May family, Daylesford, and attendant serfs would arrive each morning. Just like they were back at the family property, the imports came banging in stakes, advertising the wunderkind and the magic Green triangle, to help seize the electorate from the locals. It is annoying when an apparatus from across the Yarra tries to impose its alien culture. No local media, especially the hopeless Leader Newspaper chain, had the wit to report that the local candidate was actually a serial candidate previously from Ballarat at the 2013 election.

Far from being an environmentalist and lawyer, as she touted herself, Steph Hodgkins May was just off the staff of Green boss Senator Di Natale. But the oddest aspect of her campaign was her peculiar partner, Ogi. He kept taking pictures of Labor Party polling workers, even posting pictures of a senior citizen and Elsternwick Branch member on his Twitter. Strangely, Hodgins-May was anxious to announce that the Green Colonists were running Ogi & other Greens in the new (& idiotic) 3 by 3 Council Wards for Port Phillip in the upcoming November Council elections.

It�s now clear that the 3 feeder parties which preferenced the Greens Party were at least publicly staffed by paid polling booth workers, or by Green satellites. Few of the Marriage Equality workers were identified by members of the local gay community and some admitted to local LGBTQI community activists that they were paid to hand out pamphlets. Animal Justice is another feeder party orchestrated to assist the Greens in Prahran and now in Melbourne Ports. As one of the leading activists in Parliament for Labor on Animal Welfare, local Labor was struck by the deceitful behaviour of the local candidate Rob Smyth who met with Labor both at a National and local level to negotiate preferences. Yet they already had a predetermined plan.

Strange political behaviour didn�t end there.

The Minor parties were very agitated about the Green Party�s collaboration with the Liberals to exclude them from the Senate. Strange isn�t it that, at the last election in Melbourne Ports, the Sex Party scored nearly 5% of the vote. (70% of their preferences came to me at the last Federal Election.) Yet this election there was no candidate in the seat where they polled the highest House of Reps vote! Perhaps it was because Meredith Doig their Senate Candidate was long ago a member of the Socialist Left and bitter about my preselection 20 years ago! It was clear to me from Doig�s close relationship with the Green Party candidate that something was afoot. Firstly, the inexplicable absence of a Sex Party candidate for the HOR in Ports undermined the vote for their own Senate candidate. Of course their absence did the Green Party a practical favour, seeing no protest vote came to me in Ports. To pursue such a tactic, to the extent of dragging down their vote for their own Senate candidate (who obviously wasn�t elected), is a new twist in politics.

I won�t go into the robo calling and push polling by the Greens Party & Liberals during the election. Except to say that twice the Age newspaper eagerly megaphoned their Green claims. First, during the election, the Age highlighted the Greens push polling. Then, after the election, the Age ran a story that Melbourne Ports was a �shock loss�. Explained by the Age journalist�s ethics in failing to contact me or the office to ask what was actually happening at the post- election scrutineering in Port Melbourne. The post election �shock loss� story was given legs by both Michael Kroger and the Greens as both were very angry with me for bringing undone their neat little plan in Ports, Wills and Batman.

Last point, unnoticed by most commentators is the sociological change that is right across the Labor Party towards the Green Political Party. At the 2013 elections, my expose of Green policies on the Death Tax, on closing Zoos and on Senator Rhiannon�s Stalinist past led to Bob Brown saying he would have me defeated and �sent out to grow cabbages�. My tough attitude to what the German�s call �DIE GRUENEN� was not as extensively shared in Labor as it is now. Labor made a mistake under my friend Julia Gillard in entering into a pact with the Greens. But now my ideological & practical criticism of the Green Party�s role is widely shared. Embracing the extreme left� GRUENEN� is political death for Labor. The Green Party is practically our enemy as they spend all their resources in 20 seats in an effort to undermine the Labor alternative government.

The pervasive Labor attitude towards the Greens is now that of Paul Keating; who stated during Anthony Albanese�s campaign launch in his incisive manner , �They�re a bunch of Trots and opportunists, hiding behind a gum tree and pretending to be the Labor Party�. If they spend a million dollars at the next election attacking Labor in Melbourne Ports Ports, they will have the exact same effect they had in Higgins � driving voters into the arms of the Liberals.
Authoritative research by Uttings shows after 7 terms, I have a high profile locally, 43% positive, 28% negative, 20% undecided, only 8% never heard. Amazing only 28% bitter enders after 7 terms. I hope Labor can repeat the success in the future but one thing I know, the Greens will never win this Federal seat south of the Yarra.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 05:40

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Is this it?

Nice meltdown.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:04

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Nice meltdown.

I love politicians. They're bitter children even when they win, because they didn't win hard enough

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:10

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

It reads like a crazy person manifesto, this line in particular stood out to me because ~~it's in completely the wrong tense and possessive to the rest of the paragraph (or~~ it's the wrong message, Danby attacked Kroger, why are you advertising that?):

"Danby attack ads appeared on Kroger, linking him to the Green Party"

Plus he put both MSM families offside via his callouts of The Leader and The Age, which bodes well for his future media support.

I also love how he tries to spin his "high profile" by incorporating his low primary vote and manages to contextualise them negatively as "bitter enders" which implies a blind devotion to a failing idol.

edit: yeah I read it wrong, he's boasting about how he launched a campaign linking the liberal guy to the greens.

G-Spot Run fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Aug 3, 2016

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:23

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

ScreamingLlama posted:

It doesn't matter how many times you tell me to shut up, I'm going to keep shitposting because you're not mods and there's gently caress all you can do to shut me up.

I pwnt you all by hijacking August and you're trying to hide your butthurt by continuing to antagonize me even though antagonism is what started this thread in the first place. You're literally incapable of learning or admitting fault.

If I didn't know any better, I would have mistaken you for Liberal politicians.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

I guess the report button really does do something.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:34

Amethyst: Mar 28, 2004; I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

30 day probation for defending himself from pages of insults. Badass, funny, and above all, win.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:42

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/760709953636200448
https://twitter.com/AusElectoralCom/status/760710475395006464

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:44

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Amethyst posted:

30 day probation for defending himself from pages of insults. Badass, funny, and above all, win.

You'll be next

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:46

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Amethyst posted:

30 day probation for defending himself from pages of insults. Badass, funny, and above all, win.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:48

Schneider Inside Her: Aug 6, 2009; Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

He's gotta calm down a sconch. I'm worried about him

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:49

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

I'm not.

I'm Australian and we've already established that means I don't care about people being horribly tortured by default, since its ongoing and nobody in charge wants to stop it. Obviously one person's mild distress means even less.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 06:53

ungulateman: Apr 18, 2012; pretentious fuckwit who isn't half as literate or insightful or clever as he thinks he is

DancingShade posted:

I'm not.

I'm Australian and we've already established that means I don't care about people being horribly tortured by default, since its ongoing and nobody in charge wants to stop it. Obviously one person's mild distress means even less.

nah see screamingllama is white so we're obliged to care

# ? Aug 3, 2016 07:04

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

ungulateman posted:

nah see screamingllama is white so we're obliged to care

A white person in distress? You're right, someone call A Current Affair and notify the Murdock rags.

I'm pretty sure we can still blame Labor for it.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 07:14

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

Amethyst posted:

30 day probation for defending himself from pages of insults. Badass, funny, and above all, win.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 07:48

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

I like how this thread is turning out.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:05

Ian Winthorpe III: Dec 5, 2013; gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to

DancingShade posted:

Nobody is surprised. So many people are ok with it on a national level that you could probably call it no longer news but the status quo.

Maybe that should be the news instead? "Australians yawn, really don't care about torture."

Well yeah, its been 15 years since Tampa and Australians have generally backed offshore processing in that time so no, its not really news.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:11

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Liberty Cat got 30 days too.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:13

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

Amethyst posted:

30 day probation for defending himself from pages of insults. Badass, funny, and above all, win.

Uh-oh. The badposters are closing ranks.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:29

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

amethyst is good, actually

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:44

Amethyst: Mar 28, 2004; I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/elizabeth-farrelly-20160728-gqflzy.html

Good article, IMO

Look at this fucker. The deputy premiere of NSW, was willingly painted like this. The boorish tastelessness at the core of contemporary Australian conservatism honestly makes me sick.

Amethyst fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Aug 3, 2016

# ? Aug 3, 2016 08:47

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 03:23

Ian Winthorpe III: Dec 5, 2013; gays, fatties and women are the main funny things in life. Fuck those lefty tumblrfuck fags, I'll laugh at poofs and abbos if I want to

Amethyst posted:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/elizabeth-farrelly-20160728-gqflzy.html

Good article, IMO

Look at this fucker. The deputy premiere of NSW, was willingly painted like this. The boorish tastelessness at the core of contemporary Australian conservatism honestly makes me sick.

I like it. It looks like actual stuff rather than just an ugly projection of the artist's tortured psyche.

# ? Aug 3, 2016 09:29

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