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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

bunnyofdoom posted:

Jobbo: can I modify you challenge? Can I make it so for every one of my people drop I add two more I have to kill?

Whatever you want, the funnest way to play is removing as many Allied Agents as possible :getin:

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Update 3: Yeah, so I can win this any time now Days 150-211
Challenge in play
No one to write the obituaries: Must kill every rebel agent if possible, run assassination missions against those with plot armour and wound them. Minimum ten corpses for this challenge to succeed. Current Count: 2





State of the Galaxy at the update. Got a noghri team to kill the wounded Raftican, running espionage on Chandrila, and inciting on it and Corfai. Soon, we’ll see where poo poo is and who else will die




Goddamit it. You were so sucky at your jobs you healed her? The gently caress dudes



Anyways, looks like the Rebels are trying to break our blockade. It’s probably one or two ships, which will run away.



Or not. This could be a big battle. What’s worse, we are a little outnumbered fighter wise. Good news, most are y-wings? Wait, no, that’s the opposite of good.



Hmm, who should I target. I bet I could pop the corvette quickly, then pump some damage into another capital. However, it’s not a threat at all, and destroying it wouldn’t mean crap. They pump em out quick enough, and they have enough spares. Now, I could, and should have, popped the escort carrier as it is the biggest threat on the field. As well, they pop rather easily. However, in the end, I targeted one of the bulk cruisers because they take more resources to build, and are the only thing on the field with turbolasers.



As can be seen here, the y-wings swarm one of my dreads, and have weakened it’s shields. This could be painful. Meanwhile, for some reason, their x-wing escort (two squadrons) aren’t shooting up my ties, and are, in fact, attacking the Victory Destroyer.. I have no clue why.



However, if you look at our side of the battle, the bulk cruiser we targeted has taken a fair bit more damage, down to half shields only.



The damage continues to pile on. As you can see, we have knocked out the shields, and shield recharge entirely. All hits are now against the exposed hull. The rebel fleet is trying to run. What this means is they all need to turn around, make it to the edge of the map, and then jump to hyperspace, while my fleet pursues and shoots at them. Which actually really benefits the Victory. Since most of it’s guns are in the fore, it can continue to chase and shoot.



And here is where I can tell I’ve got it. As you can see, the damage that has been piled on has knocked out it’s weapons and tractor beam completely. At this point in a battle where they didn’t run, I’d switch to a new target that was firing, saving this for mop-up because it poses no threat. Since they are running, I am just gonna keep piling on. Now, you may notice the engine is damaged. This means it’s moving slower than its compatriots to the running away point. It also means my fleet is faster, and can hit it better.



And that’s all she wrote. As you can see, our barrage has knocked out the hyperdrive. This triggers a special combat thing. If a fleet has fled, and there are stragglers whose hyperdrive is down, they are instantly destroyed. No matter the hull left, or whatever weapons are left. This saves you time, and fleet damage.






Flawless victory. Didn’t lose a single unit, and they lost 4 y-wings squadrons and a bulk cruiser. This is always something worth celebrating.


Vagran and Duros think so, joining right away based off the diplo boost from blowing up an enemy capital ship.



Woo, team uprising have worked and got it to flip neutral. As well, I got an espionage mission that went off well, which gave me intel on Commoner.





So, it looks like this is a fleet base. The fleet we just whooped is heading here, as well as a bunch of weakass replacements. I’m gonna send the fleet over corfai to give them a bad time.



And here’s their production. Wait, what’s that on the production. ZOOM-ENHANCE


:siren: I have found their HQ. 7 days into the third update, and only 157 into the game, I have found the rebel base. So, as I said, I’m gonna finish off the bodies hitting the floor challenge. When I get 10 corpses, I will send a punishment fleet out and blow it the poo poo up.


On the Planet we have this chubby fucker too, who is of course, going to die when he gets there.




Palp recruits this guy, who as you can probably guess, I immediately set to facility research.


I am sending all the Noghri I have to kill Tura this time. We shall see if it works



Now this dread did take damage during the fight. As evidenced by it exploding. Shield recharge is only half strength. It is ok to send a ship with damaged shield recharge into combat. However, if it has a 0, DO NOT SEND UNLESS YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. It was start the battle with no shields whatsoever, and will be easy prey.


Just for you Blind Sally, just for you.


Sweet. The Death Star shield is different from other shields. It doesn’t provide bombardment defense. What it means, however, if you’ve seen ROTJ, that starfighters cannot attack the death star in space combat, rendering it invulnerable. (Note: offer does not apply to sabotage)




I came, they ran like the cowards they are



Here’s what happens when you tick that little goofy faced officer at the bottom. Lets you see where your officers are, and what they are up to. Useful if you need to see if any of your dudes are doing nothing. On the rebel side, it’s based off your last known intel, so it can be useful at times.



Since my fleet can scare the enemy away pretty well as it is, I send the damaged dread back to Tralus and it’s shipyards to get it’s shield generators topped up. I figure that is probably the best move.




Another recruit who can shoot people in the face. Sent him to Dash Rendar



Hooray, my diplomats pull through again. In Corellia, all that remain are Corfai and Commoner, and I feel Corfai is gonna be flipping soon.



I should have learned from the Thrawn Trilogy. Noghri are useless at assassinations. So, I sent actual characters and they got it done. From now on, it will be all the saboteurs on a fleet doing it, with Noghri as decoys. Kill count 3



Right, so I sent the fleet back to Corfai. I am outnumber 5:3 on fighters, and yeah, the fact I don’t have that second dread means they aren’t running. This time, at least, I target the escort carrier.



And take it out. You may notice the blue sparkly effect around it. That means the Victory has it in it’s tractor beam and it can’t move. Which means, it cannot reach the jump out point. It blows up after the other ships jump, and I have another capital ship kill.





Not quite as flawless a victory, but if the price for killing an escort carrier and a y-wing is 3 tie fighters than I will take it. I refill it with the garrison ties from tralus, and the other dread is fully repaired so it joins them.



As we can see, Tralus is finished building its garrison of tie fighters and bombers, and as such is now building an escort carrier (I also off screen built up it’s shipyards). I figure the weak point of my Corellian fleet is fighter support, so that’s where it’s gonna work for now.



I realized that Coruscant didn’t have shields at all to stop a ninja-snype invasion, so I blew up three construction yards. Will rebuild an advanced one, then two gencore 1s for now.



So, I’ve been kicking so much rear end that Corfai straight jumps over neutral right into our camp, along with Yaga Minor. Looks like I almost have both sectors on lockdown.


Jumping ahead, my espionage is starting to give me a peek into the sluis sector


Turns out Page tried to run the blockade at Svriven and got injured. Trying to get through a blockade can lead to wounding, capturing or even rarely outright death!


He’s swiftly marked for death anyways




Bpfassh is probably gonna be target 1 when we roll in for a couple reasons. 1, I want to kill Tallon, depriving them of another researcher. 2, it is the least liked of their planets. If I blow up their troops, it may flip to use, and trigger uprisings across the sector. 3, their production scares me


Thanks not Boba! Death count 4!


Sullust has some targets for me to kill too





Woo another jedi candidate. What the hell, Darth start training him now. He’ll lead the Sluis fleet with you



Look at that fleet they got opposing me. Two bulk cruisers, three corvettes, and a good deal of fighters. That could do some damage before I kill them all. I’ll focus down one cruiser at least, then the other to see if I can make them really hurt


Nope they ran rather than standing and fighting. Cowards


Ooooh, nice intel package. So, we got a few more guys coming to join the party. I’m gonna send the league of assassins down to kill em all when they get there, assuming the blockade doesn’t.



Well, of course, after I use them to kill all three chuckleheads on Corsin of course.



Here’s the state of the galaxy at the end of this update. (I was feeling a little woozy from a CT scan so I stopped early). You may notice Corfai went back to neutral. I had a bombardment on Commoner hit the wrong thing. Not a big deal, I will get a diplomat there before the rebels do. In Sesswenna, I have only three red planet's left, with Corsin pretty much on a knife’s edge already. Uvena and Tralus are becoming shipbuilding hubs, and once I hit ten corpses, I’ll be able to hit hmenthe.

Ta-tah for now.
Challenge Status
No one to write the obituaries: Kill count 4.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



So, character post will probably go up tomorrow night, late, or late Friday night. Don't have the images for it unfortuantely. Also, I need a better name for my assassination team.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

bunnyofdoom posted:

So, character post will probably go up tomorrow night, late, or late Friday night. Don't have the images for it unfortuantely. Also, I need a better name for my assassination team.

The Yuuhzan Dongs

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

bunnyofdoom posted:

So, character post will probably go up tomorrow night, late, or late Friday night. Don't have the images for it unfortuantely. Also, I need a better name for my assassination team.

Dorksabers

Stackpole's Heroes

Dinner Squadron

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Yub Yub Thanks For the Grub

Hissa's Heroes

The Jizz Trio

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





bunnyofdoom posted:

Here’s the state of the galaxy at the end of this update. (I was feeling a little woozy from a CT scan so I stopped early).

Health first dude.

Mathwyn
Oct 31, 2012

Ante up.


Death Star Memorial Party Squad.

Assuming this is after the first death star tragedy. If it isnt: Death Star Pre-memorial Party Squad.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
No Means No-ghri Death Squad

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



My only regret is I cannot use all these suggestions

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Jobbo_Fett posted:

No Means No-ghri Death Squad

Please, like they'll get anything done.

Piett's Party Poopers

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
"How the hell is Grammel better than us"

might be over the character limit though

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Assassination squad is basically all the actual characters led by not boba. Not thr noghri

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

bunnyofdoom posted:

Assassination squad is basically all the actual characters led by not boba. Not thr noghri

My point still stands.

Antipersonnel Mime
Feb 27, 2011
"Ewok Log Trap"

"Inglorious Bith-tards"

"Joy Division"

Challenge ideas:

Gunboat Diplomacy: You cannot use diplomats. Any political goodwill you attain must be thru other sources.
(Probably not feasible, just putting it out there)


Let the Galaxy Burn: Build the Death Star & reduce every planet in every sector to rubble, ending with Coruscant.
(Time and patience. And numerous anti-sabatoge teams.)

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Darth's Mauls

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

Antipersonnel Mime posted:

Let the Galaxy Burn: Build the Death Star & reduce every planet in every sector to rubble, ending with Coruscant.
(Time and patience. And numerous anti-sabatoge teams.)

Infeasible. At some point you gotta blow up the rebel base before ending with Coruscant.

Also all your poo poo will break if your maintenance pool depletes from blowing up all your own poo poo.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Veloxyll posted:

Darth's Mauls

oh poo poo yes

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Neurion posted:

The Yuuhzan Dongs

I vote for this one!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Character update 3

Imperial Characters


Orlok

Orlok is our first recruit of the update. As you can see, researcher for facilities, only good stat is leadership. I think I’ll make him General on Coruscant when we’re done. Note, his name has no C, and he shares his name with the first real movie vampire, Count Orlok, who was created when Bram Stoker’s estate sued to the studio behind the classic film Nosferatu in 1922. Read more about him here

First Appearance: The ROTJ comic strip in the LA times. He got eaten by worms


Menndo

Menndo is basically Greedo. He does shoot first in this game. Also, he’s just a basic saboteur. So yeah, not much to say

First Appearance: This Game


Griff

Griff designed the Executor, but despite this isn’t a researcher. Go figure. Anyways, he’s standard issue, and wouldn’t be worth writing about much except he’s force sensitive in this run, so I’m gonna turn him into a sith if I can

First Appearance: Classic Star Wars comics

Rebel Characters


Syub Snunb

No, this isn’t Lando’s co-pilot from the Battle of Endor. All sullustans look alike to you don’t they you space racist? Anyways he’s an admiral. He’s standard issue

First Appearance: Dark Empire


Page
This baby-faced guy leads a commando team renown for kicking rear end. He also has bad leadership and is a pure saboteur. Anyways, he’s also interesting in that he was created by Zahn, and then retroactively they picked an extra during ROTJ to be him. I will not use him in the canon challenge run regardless.

First Appearance: Technically Thrawn Trilogy


Carlist Rieekan

Rieekan is a rebel general. He also has the purina logo on him. He’s basically a rebel counterpoint to Veers. Troop researcher, only good at leadership

First Appearance: ESB


Borsk Fey’lya

Borsk is a weird dog like creature, and one of the slimiest characters of the old EU. In game, he’s good at alot of things, including diplo, espionage, leadership, and maybe combat? Been a while.

First Appearance: Thrawn Trilogy


Adar Tallon

Adar Tallon is the Rebellion super-researcher, able to research anything. When I roll into Sluis sector, he’s the first to die. As well, he has decent leadership, and that’s it.

First Appearance: WEG


Vander Willard

So, basically, the game devs hosed up. This is Bob Hudsol. But despite that, who cares? He’s a diplomat with some sick mutton chops.

First appearance: ANH


Huoba Neva

Another Sullustan. She commanded a Frigate and ran into a rock and died. She is standard issue

First Appearance: Dark Empire


Lando Calrissian AKA Smooth Talkin ladies man from beyond the stars

You all wish you were half as cool as Lando. He’s a con man, Gambler, Entrepreneur, General, and all around badass. He’s got some drat good stats, from great diplomacy, because of course, to good combat, espionage and leadership. Finally, the jewel in the cloak clasp is that he can research facilities. I am really sad he needs to die, and does not get voice clips. What the poo poo game. What the poo poo


Orrimaarko

So, prune face. Pure Saboteur. He’s decent enough.

First Appearance: ROTJ


Mazer Rackus

So, this twi’lek had an abusive dad. Like actually. Fortunately, the writer’s never had him and Luke bond over that cause that would be stupid. Pure Saboteur.

First Appearance: WEG.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



So, next update might not be til Sunday, just letting you all know.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

bunnyofdoom posted:


Page
This baby-faced guy leads a commando team renown for kicking rear end. He also has bad leadership and is a pure saboteur. Anyways, he’s also interesting in that he was created by Zahn, and then retroactively they picked an extra during ROTJ to be him. I will not use him in the canon challenge run regardless.

First Appearance: Technically Thrawn Trilogy



This is something that has possibly also happened in reverse.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



PoptartsNinja posted:

This is something that has possibly also happened in reverse.



Rebels is such a great show.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



It really is. One thing I am toying with is using reb-ed ot get the cast and crew of it in there.

Also, our advisor droids kinda remind me of Chopper and his buddy

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



bunnyofdoom posted:

It really is. One thing I am toying with is using reb-ed ot get the cast and crew of it in there.

I wouldn't mind that. But now you've got me wondering:What's "reb-ed ot"? Sorry,I know jack poo poo about this game.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



VolticSurge posted:

I wouldn't mind that. But now you've got me wondering:What's "reb-ed ot"? Sorry,I know jack poo poo about this game.

Well, ot is me mistyping to

Reb-Ed is basically the save game editor for the game. You can use it to gently caress around with the stats and such. I'm not sure I can get it to work with the GoG version yet.


Speaking of, anyone pick it up off Gog yet?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
The rebels only have one place to train ground troops?

Or they only start with one and it's not likely they build another?

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Glazius posted:

The rebels only have one place to train ground troops?

Or they only start with one and it's not likely they build another?

They're mailing those troops off to some planet in the Outer Rim, which they'd only do if it was vital.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Yeah. That shows the destination of the troops, not the origin point. They are building a garrison on a random outer rim planet. It is likely it's the hq. However if it is not, then it is also exceedingly like it is in the same sector.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

VolticSurge posted:

Rebels is such a great show.

Honest question, is it really?

I've never watched a single moment of it, and I don't know anyone who's watched it and its always sort-of intrigued me.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

bunnyofdoom posted:

Well, ot is me mistyping to

Reb-Ed is basically the save game editor for the game. You can use it to gently caress around with the stats and such. I'm not sure I can get it to work with the GoG version yet.


Speaking of, anyone pick it up off Gog yet?

I should double-check, I think I did. Edit: I do have it on GOG I had a boxed copy of this game, which came with this HUGE display that had all the ships on it (and I think the galaxy map on the reverse?) but someone stole it from me :(.



Also, RebED is more than just screwing with stats, as people have made Total Conversions of Rebellion for Star Trek: TNG or having an entire series of "campaigns" that work on individual save games. Some of them being incredibly hard, or completely cheesed by "Advanced" method of changing public opinion.

Jobbo_Fett fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Aug 12, 2016

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Honest question, is it really?

I've never watched a single moment of it, and I don't know anyone who's watched it and its always sort-of intrigued me.

The first season takes a bit to pick up,but when it does,it's amazing. Most of the cast,while poorly fleshed out (besides Kylo Ren,Jr. Ezra),are pretty fun. Minus Ezra,who's the token "plucky kid" character and therefore terrible. It's more of a small-scale character-driven series,as opposed to The Clone Wars' massive conflicts.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

VolticSurge posted:

The first season takes a bit to pick up,but when it does,it's amazing. Most of the cast,while poorly fleshed out (besides Kylo Ren,Jr. Ezra),are pretty fun. Minus Ezra,who's the token "plucky kid" character and therefore terrible. It's more of a small-scale character-driven series,as opposed to The Clone Wars' massive conflicts.

Huh, guess I should give it a look. Does it have anything related to Rogue One?

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Huh, guess I should give it a look. Does it have anything related to Rogue One?

Well,maybe. The Black Stormtroopers are supposed to show up in Season 3, apparently. Otherwise,I have no idea. Edit: First two seasons take place 5 years before the construction of the Death Star. Season 3 is a 2-3 year timeskip,so there might be some references.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

VolticSurge posted:

Well,maybe. The Black Stormtroopers are supposed to show up in Season 3, apparently. Otherwise,I have no idea. Edit: First two seasons take place 5 years before the construction of the Death Star. Season 3 is a 2-3 year timeskip,so there might be some references.

Gotcha, I'll give it a watch.


Also, found the poster-thingy I was talking about. Contains some blurry spoilers






I hope whoever stole that thing felt bad about it for a long time :argh:

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Gotcha, I'll give it a watch.

Just to let you know,after watching Spark of the Rebellion,skip FIghter Flight and the one after,they're filler. Just skip to Rise of the Old Masters,that's where the plot actually starts.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Gotcha, I'll give it a watch.


Also, found the poster-thingy I was talking about. Contains some blurry spoilers






I hope whoever stole that thing felt bad about it for a long time :argh:

This game had a great physical release, it was this poster and a gigantic instruction manual like they don't make anymore

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Prop Wash posted:

This game had a great physical release, it was this poster and a gigantic instruction manual like they don't make anymore

Yeah! Both the poster and the manual were great. Sadly, I don't know if I still have the Rebellion manual, but I know my Rebellion CD is lying around somewhere... (The only reason to even have it anymore is that sweet-sweet skippable intro)



VolticSurge posted:

Just to let you know,after watching Spark of the Rebellion,skip FIghter Flight and the one after,they're filler. Just skip to Rise of the Old Masters,that's where the plot actually starts.


I was raised on Dragonball Z. I welcome filler with open arms :kheldragar:

koolkevz666
Aug 22, 2015
I have watched every episode of rebels so far and while it is still quite clearly aimed for kids as an adult and a star wars fan it is quite enjoyable. I would recommend it even the filler episodes sometimes they are funny and other times not. In the end I found it was rather enjoyable and season three looks to be brilliant by what the teasers have shown.

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PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Honest question, is it really?

I've never watched a single moment of it, and I don't know anyone who's watched it and its always sort-of intrigued me.

It's fun but parts of it are very, very dumb. They keep bringing back Darth Maul, the Blade Wing (lol) :shrug:

It scores bonus points with me for making Grand Admiral Thrawn canon in season 3, showing two of the Old Republic's ancient Hammerhead-class ships, and setting something on Malachor V. Thrawn being canon is awesome for obvious reasons (woo, semi-canonized TIE fighter!), the other two semi-canonize KOTOR and KOTOR II (and TOR, to a much lesser extent).

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Aug 12, 2016

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