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a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

Moridin920 posted:

Answer the question then, by your own arguments you're only poor because you're either spending your money on drugs or luxuries you don't need and you're too lazy to get a better job. True or no? If no, why are you special?

I am not special. Neither is anyone else for using their pussy. I would not expect you or anyone to make excuses for me.

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
bro, your theory of why people strip/hook is just 'they're degenerate.' quote.

that's loving dumb.



a dog from hell posted:

I am not special. Neither is anyone else for using their pussy. I would not expect you or anyone to make excuses for me.

You seem to be really hung up on women using their pussy to get advantage over you and 'degeneracy.' They're doing what they can to get by in this hosed up economy/world.

They're not doing anything morally wrong. Period.

The only problem is, many of them do not want to be doing it but feel like they need to bc economic opportunity doesn't exist otherwise for them. That's not making an excuse either, that's recognizing that people do what they need to. Very few people become strippers/hookers for funsies.

a dog from hell posted:

To answer your question at the end of your post, life experience.

lmao gently caress off surely you see how absurd of an answer this is

I might as well tell you I have economic degrees and know what the gently caress I'm talking about in terms of economy and jobs and all that or that I know 3 people who either are or have been strippers (not because they liked it either, and not because they were too lazy for a 'real job') and it would be true but it's still useless anecdotal crap.

quote:

You are giving me numbers and recycled arguments. I am not going to be swayed because I have been there.

and you aren't answering my 'recycled arguments' and numbers. I mean whatever you're determined to be a dolt that's fine I can't sway you but jesus christ "I don't care about numbers or arguments, my life experience tells me otherwise"

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 9, 2016

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

Moridin920 posted:

bro, your theory of why people strip/hook is just 'they're degenerate.' quote.

that's loving dumb.


Why should they have to make excuses dude? You seem to be really hung up on women using their pussy to get advantage over you and 'degeneracy.' They're doing what they can to get by in this hosed up economy/world.

They're not doing anything morally wrong. Period.

The only problem is, many of them do not want to be doing it but feel like they need to bc economic opportunity doesn't exist otherwise for them. That's not making an excuse either, that's recognizing that people do what they need to.


lmao gently caress off

I am not hung up over anything. You are taking this holier-than-thou angle where you make excuses for prostitution where no excuse needed to be made. It is normal human behavior and if it were legal it wouldn't be so messy to talk about.

So really we agree but you dislike my tone. C'est la vie.

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

tits are good

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

So really we agree but you dislike my tone. C'est la vie.

I absolutely do not agree that the average stripper/hooker is only doing it to support their drug habit or lavish lifestyle and that if they really didn't want to do it they could just find another job.

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

med school is the most popular street slang for heroin, hth

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014
I used to be drinking buddies with a stripper. I worked in a pizza place just across the road from where she stripped, and come finishing time I'd stop in a nearby bar for a couple of pints, where she'd invariably join me and start bitching about her job. She was a real stereotypical stripper mess - abusive dad, drug problems, about a billion semi-finished degrees, panicking about getting older - and would frequently rant about how she wanted to stab her customers. Sometimes she'd get sloppy drunk and ask me if I wanted to gently caress her. I always declined.

Anyway, one day she stabbed a customer in the dick four times. That is to say, she stabbed one customer's dick four times.

Our pizzas were only mediocre.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Maybe some people strip because they can make a lot of money in a short amount of time; probably more money in less time than they can make given their resume/CV level/work experience than they can in another field. I'm sure some like it. Some just tolerate it. I'm sure some are exploited, and some are not.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

Moridin920 posted:

I absolutely do not agree that the average stripper/hooker is only doing it to support their drug habit or lavish lifestyle and that if they really didn't want to do it they could just find another job.

Talk to the average sex worker and get back to me on that.

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings
I once went to a Tilted Kilt and the ridiculous prices there convinced me not to give a poo poo about strip clubs. hope this helps.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Strip clubs are for pathetic virgins and scumbags.

Needless to say they have no interest to me :smug:

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

I'm in a 3rd world country but I can confirm 99.9% of strippers and hookers do it for the easy money, and they're mostly broken people

They could easily get another job to survive, even in Latin America, but gently caress being a cashier when you can make 10x the money showing off your tits or vagine in half the time

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot

Don Tacorleone posted:

I'm in a 3rd world country but I can confirm 99.9% of strippers and hookers do it for the easy money, and they're mostly broken people

They could easily get another job to survive, even in Latin America, but gently caress being a cashier when you can make 10x the money showing off your tits or vagine in half the time

What country? If you don't mind.

Sancho
Jul 18, 2003

Most people are broken tho. Well not goons of course, but all those other guys.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

a dog from hell posted:

What country? If you don't mind.

Down in me hee co

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Hmm I can either go hungry most days as I try to scrape by a living on benefits while waiting for a minimum wage job that'll let me get by with maybe a couple more meals each week, or I can take my clothes off for money and be able to live not well, but comfortably, and then supplement my income doing sex work

I think I'll pick the latter

But only 'cus I'm such a loving degenerate

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Paying to have sex with people you describe as broken and repugnant is cool and good

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!

Disgusting Coward posted:

I used to be drinking buddies with a stripper. I worked in a pizza place just across the road from where she stripped, and come finishing time I'd stop in a nearby bar for a couple of pints, where she'd invariably join me and start bitching about her job. She was a real stereotypical stripper mess - abusive dad, drug problems, about a billion semi-finished degrees, panicking about getting older - and would frequently rant about how she wanted to stab her customers. Sometimes she'd get sloppy drunk and ask me if I wanted to gently caress her. I always declined.

Anyway, one day she stabbed a customer in the dick four times. That is to say, she stabbed one customer's dick four times.

Our pizzas were only mediocre.

Thread needs more stories like this and way less impassioned defense of people who take their clothes off because they'd rather not stack pants for peanuts.

God Damn Dam God
Dec 24, 2004

I push buttons. I turn dials. I read numbers. Sometimes I make up little stories in my head about what the numbers mean.
Grimey Drawer
The last time I went to a strip club was this podunk little "Gentlemen's club" in the middle of some small town at like 3 in the afternoon. It was surreal. There was one very attractive stripper, One stripper in her mid-late 40s, and two chubby ones. I went in with a buddy, and there was only one other dude in the club who was hammered. It was the best experience i've ever had, almost like some weird comedy show. The two chubby ones were on stage trying to do pole tricks and failing miserably. one of them got about 4 feet in the air, while the other one was at the bottom, but she slipped and fell and landed on the other one, and they both got up laughing, then they just goofed around for like 10 minutes. It was fantastic, and I tipped the poo poo out of them even though none of them actually took their clothes off.

The drunk dude was getting a lapdance from the older stripper, but he kept putting his hands on her. The bouncer (who might have been the single most ripped dude I have ever seen) kept telling him to stop, but the dude was drunk and belligerent. The drunk dude ended up pushing the stripper off, got up and started mouthing off to the bouncer. The bouncer was about 6'4", and gigantic, and the drunk dude might have been pushing 5'2, maybe 140. He ended up taking a swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer said "Don't do that. If you do that again you'll regret it." The drunk dude mouthed off some more and took another swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer just laid him out with one punch. The dude was laying on the ground for a good 5 minutes, and when he started to come to, the bouncer told him he had to leave. The dude was still being drunk and belligerent and wouldn't get off the ground, so the bouncer just came up, picked him up by the shirt and pants, and just tossed him out the door like a sack of flour. It was something straight out of a cartoon.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Randy Mythbuster posted:

The last time I went to a strip club was this podunk little "Gentlemen's club" in the middle of some small town at like 3 in the afternoon. It was surreal. There was one very attractive stripper, One stripper in her mid-late 40s, and two chubby ones. I went in with a buddy, and there was only one other dude in the club who was hammered. It was the best experience i've ever had, almost like some weird comedy show. The two chubby ones were on stage trying to do pole tricks and failing miserably. one of them got about 4 feet in the air, while the other one was at the bottom, but she slipped and fell and landed on the other one, and they both got up laughing, then they just goofed around for like 10 minutes. It was fantastic, and I tipped the poo poo out of them even though none of them actually took their clothes off.

The drunk dude was getting a lapdance from the older stripper, but he kept putting his hands on her. The bouncer (who might have been the single most ripped dude I have ever seen) kept telling him to stop, but the dude was drunk and belligerent. The drunk dude ended up pushing the stripper off, got up and started mouthing off to the bouncer. The bouncer was about 6'4", and gigantic, and the drunk dude might have been pushing 5'2, maybe 140. He ended up taking a swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer said "Don't do that. If you do that again you'll regret it." The drunk dude mouthed off some more and took another swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer just laid him out with one punch. The dude was laying on the ground for a good 5 minutes, and when he started to come to, the bouncer told him he had to leave. The dude was still being drunk and belligerent and wouldn't get off the ground, so the bouncer just came up, picked him up by the shirt and pants, and just tossed him out the door like a sack of flour. It was something straight out of a cartoon.

Why are you doxxing me bro?

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Don Tacorleone posted:

I'm in a 3rd world country but I can confirm 99.9% of strippers and hookers do it for the easy money, and they're mostly broken people

They could easily get another job to survive, even in Latin America, but gently caress being a cashier when you can make 10x the money showing off your tits or vagine in half the time

yeah you realize in Mexico that's pretty much all run by organized crime and they can't exactly just leave whenever right? you know pimps purposefully get them addicted to drugs and basically purposefully break them so they are better hookers? just talking about the average sex worker down there

you people live in a little fantasy bubble i swear

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Randy Mythbuster posted:

The last time I went to a strip club was this podunk little "Gentlemen's club" in the middle of some small town at like 3 in the afternoon. It was surreal. There was one very attractive stripper, One stripper in her mid-late 40s, and two chubby ones. I went in with a buddy, and there was only one other dude in the club who was hammered. It was the best experience i've ever had, almost like some weird comedy show. The two chubby ones were on stage trying to do pole tricks and failing miserably. one of them got about 4 feet in the air, while the other one was at the bottom, but she slipped and fell and landed on the other one, and they both got up laughing, then they just goofed around for like 10 minutes. It was fantastic, and I tipped the poo poo out of them even though none of them actually took their clothes off.

The drunk dude was getting a lapdance from the older stripper, but he kept putting his hands on her. The bouncer (who might have been the single most ripped dude I have ever seen) kept telling him to stop, but the dude was drunk and belligerent. The drunk dude ended up pushing the stripper off, got up and started mouthing off to the bouncer. The bouncer was about 6'4", and gigantic, and the drunk dude might have been pushing 5'2, maybe 140. He ended up taking a swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer said "Don't do that. If you do that again you'll regret it." The drunk dude mouthed off some more and took another swing at the bouncer, and the bouncer just laid him out with one punch. The dude was laying on the ground for a good 5 minutes, and when he started to come to, the bouncer told him he had to leave. The dude was still being drunk and belligerent and wouldn't get off the ground, so the bouncer just came up, picked him up by the shirt and pants, and just tossed him out the door like a sack of flour. It was something straight out of a cartoon.

This post owns, more like this please

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Moridin920 posted:

yeah you realize in Mexico that's pretty much all run by organized crime and they can't exactly just leave whenever right? you know pimps purposefully get them addicted to drugs and basically purposefully break them so they are better hookers? just talking about the average sex worker down there

you people live in a little fantasy bubble i swear

Hahaha, no

You have no idea what you're talking about

I mean it does happen, it's called Trata de Blanca which is sex slavery and a crime, but the actual average sex worker is independent, up to middle class girls who do it for new iPhones

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

Volume posted:

I mean yeah, naked cis-women are always great to look at but you end up blowing hundreds of dollars and you're not even allowed to touch a titty. You might as well be paying for internet porn. And then there's the awkwardness of knowing that every other dude in there probably has a hard on as well. It's pretty much one giant expensive circle jerk where you're not allowed to jerk it. Just get a prostitute at least they screw you for real.

Lol your state has no touching strip clubs

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Gaunab posted:

Lol your state has no touching strip clubs

Kansas, you're not even supposed to go near the stage. They only enforce that when the cops are around though.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Don Tacorleone posted:

Hahaha, no

You have no idea what you're talking about

I mean it does happen, it's called Trata de Blanca which is sex slavery and a crime, but the actual average sex worker is independent, up to middle class girls who do it for new iPhones

lol bro I'm sure there are independent ones down there but the Zetas control prostitution in large swathes of the country and other narco-gangs control the rest so I really dunno what you're talking about

if it's a brothel it is most definitely paying protection to organized crime, at the very least

Mexico is the 5th largest source of human trafficking in all of the Americas guy.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
"middle class girls doing it for iPhones" is the lie you tell yourself to feel decent about it all

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 10, 2016

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Moridin920 posted:

:words:

Hey man, why don't you go chill out before the bouncer comes over here and tosses you out?

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.
i like to pop into the local club, let the girls know about Pell grants, drop off some pamphlets for community college, but the bouncers spot my stoic face immediately and i gotta jet ASAP

still tho, worth it

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Iron Crowned posted:

Hey man, why don't you go chill out before the bouncer comes over here and tosses you out?

i just dunno why people can't admit hey maybe the stripper doesn't like touching your dick despite what she tells you

the attitude of 'these girls like it, they could get another job if they wanted, just middle class girls wasting money on drugs/luxuries' results in drunk assholes getting touchy with the girls. that's the mentality that lets you do whatever you want because 'hey they like it! it's just THE GOVERNMENT preventing me from slipping a finger into her pussy!'

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 10, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I feel like I'm talking to the type of people that show up wearing basketball shorts and no underwear thinking it's totally chill.

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Moridin is right

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!

Moridin920 posted:

i just dunno why people can't admit hey maybe the stripper doesn't like touching your dick despite what she tells you

the attitude of 'these girls like it, they could get another job if they wanted' results in drunk assholes getting touchy with the girls. that's the mentality that lets you do whatever you want because 'hey they like it it's just THE GOVERNMENT preventing me from slipping a finger into her pussy'

Jesus guy, we get it. Strippers are pure as the first snow of winter and they have hearts of gold. This is somehow less of a fantasy than "girl I am paying to touch my dick likes touching my dick."

Erethizon_dorsatum
Nov 14, 2009
Lol if you have to pay people to take their clothes off/have sex with you

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I just like paying them to talk to me :smith:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

bloodysabbath posted:

Jesus guy, we get it. Strippers are pure as the first snow of winter and they have hearts of gold.

yeah def what I'm saying :rolleyes:

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

Moridin920 posted:

"middle class girls doing it for iPhones"
good prog rock album bro

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Gatekeeper posted:

i like to pop into the local club, let the girls know about Pell grants, drop off some pamphlets for community college, but the bouncers spot my stoic face immediately and i gotta jet ASAP

still tho, worth it

That's hosed up dude. At least there are programs and institutions that'll help them from their multiple drug addictions. There is no escape from student loans.

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Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
I'm pretty sure that the strippers are not pure as the fallen snow and in fact are willing to gently caress you for ridiculously cheap because they are on drugs or have addiction issues , but I'm talking about a bottom of the barrel strip club

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