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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Volume posted:

I mean yeah, naked cis-women are always great to look at but you end up blowing hundreds of dollars and you're not even allowed to touch a titty. You might as well be paying for internet porn. And then there's the awkwardness of knowing that every other dude in there probably has a hard on as well. It's pretty much one giant expensive circle jerk where you're not allowed to jerk it. Just get a prostitute at least they screw you for real.

I 100% agree.

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

redm posted:

strippers like me a lot because I always ask them about their lives and try to suggest they find a different line of work and the people that run strip clubs hate my guts for the exact same reason

also i know this is prolly a joke but strippers fuckin hate you guy just shut up and give up the cash

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i went to a strip club on my 18th birthday and yeah it was fun i guess but seriously I only need to wake up minus $400 with a pile of cum and tear soaked tissues next to me and a profound sense of despair once in my lifetime thanks

i really don't get how they are a thing people enjoy

that cotton candy perfume was nice though. trashy as gently caress don't get me wrong, but in a sexy way. :3:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
so then why not just find an independent operator to do that? i guess they won't fux with some drunk dude though


still though I bet the strippers willing to also do that stuff are not the same strippers you'd really want to be watching dance am I right. plus idk I'd feel kinda disgusted with myself like drat bro you're taking advantage of this woman's financial status to put your disgusting unwashed drunk dick in her

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

1. Yes they will

2. Strippers are sexy

3. Most guys are suckerfish

idk man I posit that the strippers who will sex you are not typically the sexiest ones

it's like high school; the sex you want you don't get, and the sex you get you don't want

#3 is true though for sure. guys are stupid as gently caress when they get a little horny.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

A few misconceptions in this post. Very few hookers are "independent" they are usually in some kind of loose affiliation with other hookers, pimps or brothels if you live in not America.

I'm speaking as an American. I'm well aware that globally that's not really a thing and I'm well aware that that stuff still exists here. But, independent operators are def a thing here.

a dog from hell posted:

Second it is not exploitative or taking advantage, it's just degenerate. This woman is selling her body for money to support a lifestyle she can't afford otherwise or because she doesn't want to work.

lmao gently caress off with this lowkey "poors are just lazy" poo poo bro. yeah they only strip because they need money for drugs or luxuries they don't really need

just :ughh:

person doing a job they really don't want to do or find morally repugnant because they need to survive is exploitation. Preeeetty sure the average stripper doesn't want to suck random drunk dicks and be treated like poo poo by entitled assholes.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 9, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Preeetty loving sure my friend didn't stress about going in to the club where some drunk fuckface tried to choke her out during a lapdance because haha she spent the rent money on drugs and Prada bags!

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Aug 9, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

I mean I am poor and have met hookers and strippers but yeah I agree that the poor are pure at heart. :)

Hooking and stripping are both a racket. If they only needed to survive they would get a job. The only people I am going to hear out for an argument about survival are the loons in the streets and those in the ghettos. There are more women who strip/hook out of preference than you think.


They are, for the most part, girls down on their luck. Yeah, there's drug addiction and bad money management skills. Guess what, they're poor.

I'm not idealizing poor people, I'm saying look at how retarded you are for saying 'they should just get a real job instead if they don't like stripping/hooking.' As if youth unemployment rates aren't in the DOUBLE loving DIGITS.

quote:

If they only needed to survive they would get a job. The only people I am going to hear out for an argument about survival are the loons in the streets and those in the ghettos.

You're a piece of poo poo mate idk what to tell you. You're poor right why don't you just get a better job then you lazy degenerate?

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
also you must really hate women if you have 0 issue with thinking 'stripping is a racket and they are just scamming good men out of their money so they deserve whatever they get' like woah bro

a dog from hell posted:

There are more women who strip/hook out of preference than you think.

and just to be clear, I know these exist and I'm not saying they don't or that there is anything wrong with that. But lol if you think that's really the norm.

You must also believe it when the hooker says 'that was the best sex I've ever had!' or when a stripper tells you she's just getting through law school.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

You're talking about things you don't know about so this is pointless.

imo actually what happened here is you just got shut down with specific arguments and you're trying to slip your way out by doing one of these :)

what don't I know about? youth unemployment last month in the USA was 10.8%


Answer the question then, by your own arguments you're only poor because you're either spending your money on drugs or luxuries you don't need and you're too lazy to get a better job. True or no? If no, why are you special?

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 9, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
bro, your theory of why people strip/hook is just 'they're degenerate.' quote.

that's loving dumb.



a dog from hell posted:

I am not special. Neither is anyone else for using their pussy. I would not expect you or anyone to make excuses for me.

You seem to be really hung up on women using their pussy to get advantage over you and 'degeneracy.' They're doing what they can to get by in this hosed up economy/world.

They're not doing anything morally wrong. Period.

The only problem is, many of them do not want to be doing it but feel like they need to bc economic opportunity doesn't exist otherwise for them. That's not making an excuse either, that's recognizing that people do what they need to. Very few people become strippers/hookers for funsies.

a dog from hell posted:

To answer your question at the end of your post, life experience.

lmao gently caress off surely you see how absurd of an answer this is

I might as well tell you I have economic degrees and know what the gently caress I'm talking about in terms of economy and jobs and all that or that I know 3 people who either are or have been strippers (not because they liked it either, and not because they were too lazy for a 'real job') and it would be true but it's still useless anecdotal crap.

quote:

You are giving me numbers and recycled arguments. I am not going to be swayed because I have been there.

and you aren't answering my 'recycled arguments' and numbers. I mean whatever you're determined to be a dolt that's fine I can't sway you but jesus christ "I don't care about numbers or arguments, my life experience tells me otherwise"

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 9, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a dog from hell posted:

So really we agree but you dislike my tone. C'est la vie.

I absolutely do not agree that the average stripper/hooker is only doing it to support their drug habit or lavish lifestyle and that if they really didn't want to do it they could just find another job.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Don Tacorleone posted:

I'm in a 3rd world country but I can confirm 99.9% of strippers and hookers do it for the easy money, and they're mostly broken people

They could easily get another job to survive, even in Latin America, but gently caress being a cashier when you can make 10x the money showing off your tits or vagine in half the time

yeah you realize in Mexico that's pretty much all run by organized crime and they can't exactly just leave whenever right? you know pimps purposefully get them addicted to drugs and basically purposefully break them so they are better hookers? just talking about the average sex worker down there

you people live in a little fantasy bubble i swear

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Don Tacorleone posted:

Hahaha, no

You have no idea what you're talking about

I mean it does happen, it's called Trata de Blanca which is sex slavery and a crime, but the actual average sex worker is independent, up to middle class girls who do it for new iPhones

lol bro I'm sure there are independent ones down there but the Zetas control prostitution in large swathes of the country and other narco-gangs control the rest so I really dunno what you're talking about

if it's a brothel it is most definitely paying protection to organized crime, at the very least

Mexico is the 5th largest source of human trafficking in all of the Americas guy.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
"middle class girls doing it for iPhones" is the lie you tell yourself to feel decent about it all

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 10, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Iron Crowned posted:

Hey man, why don't you go chill out before the bouncer comes over here and tosses you out?

i just dunno why people can't admit hey maybe the stripper doesn't like touching your dick despite what she tells you

the attitude of 'these girls like it, they could get another job if they wanted, just middle class girls wasting money on drugs/luxuries' results in drunk assholes getting touchy with the girls. that's the mentality that lets you do whatever you want because 'hey they like it! it's just THE GOVERNMENT preventing me from slipping a finger into her pussy!'

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 10, 2016

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I feel like I'm talking to the type of people that show up wearing basketball shorts and no underwear thinking it's totally chill.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

bloodysabbath posted:

Jesus guy, we get it. Strippers are pure as the first snow of winter and they have hearts of gold.

yeah def what I'm saying :rolleyes:

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Pon de Bundy posted:

I'm pretty sure that the strippers are not pure as the fallen snow and in fact are willing to gently caress you for ridiculously cheap because they are on drugs or have addiction issues , but I'm talking about a bottom of the barrel strip club

I never said they were.

I said strip clubs that allow that sort of thing are exploitative (lol if you think the club owner gets no cut from that at all). Apparently that's upsetting to some who insist that no, in fact, they like it.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Pon de Bundy posted:

I'm sorry but just lmao , lmao if that is your strip club experience . in the Detroit area I know strippers that will gently caress for less than 100 dollars , poo poo much less 1300 for a sad touch . I can't even ..lol "can't touch the strippers" what club is that ? Hahahahahaha

imo this falls under my theorem of 'the sex you want you don't get, the sex you get you don't really want'

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

the day I imagine that a stripper is capable of getting a bead on my psychological profile or sexual interests by speaking to me for less than 10 minutes is the day I decide to stick my genitals in a food processor

for the record I don't think you're as complicated as you think you are bro

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