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Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
We all poop the same way
irrespective of our DNA

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8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Aschlafly posted:

Transitioning, whether by surgery or hormone replacement, seems to me like the sort of thing that should wait until puberty is over, but I'm not a medical expert or psychologist.

I'd go so far as to say that you have to be a legal adult before you can consent to undergo hormonal treatment and surgeries. Parents should not be able to have this done to their children.

I don't really see where you can connect that a man can just say he's a woman and that's...fine? I mean, again, that means a perfectly ordinary man would have carte blanch ability to go into women-only areas. This invalidates the very purpose of those areas, and creates a massive legal headache. It doesn't solve any actual problems and only complicates things.

We already live in a "gender fluid" era by your definition, as men and women can achieve and aspire to the same heights. A woman is likely going to be President. Male and female Olympians get tons of press. In fact, if not for the hysterical third wave feminists, I'd say that relations between the genders have never been more equal or mutually respectful in all of human history.

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

You're not going to sell many books with that attitude.

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
There are people who will game the system and claim to be the opposite gender for nefarious purposes. There are also people who will try to "out" others for not resembling their gender enough (this already happens). These risks have to be carefully considered and weighed against the rights of transgendered people.

Gender relations have certainly gotten better over time, but we've got a ways to go.

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
Haiku time

Transgender bathroom
In a stall, my pants slide down
Autumn leaves falling

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Well I feel like we've reached common ground?

Gender relations can likely always be improved but given the emphasis the issue gets overall, I think it's greatly overblown in the U.S. and we should be focusing our attentions elsewhere. Third wave feminism is in fact detrimental IMO to the development of women as I think it actually serves to drive women away from science, technology, or medicine and encourages them to get useless gender studies degrees, focus on very frivilous activism, or at worst push them into politics, where they'll just become assholes. It's a very self-destructive ideology and I'm not at all surprised that the previous generations of feminists don't associate with what the term has come to describe.

In truth, if we could all have reasonable discussions of sensitive subjects without descending into pointless accusations or labels of bigotry, we can actually get a lot of things done. Somebody send the memo to D&D

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
I think it comes down to this. In real life, most people are polite and understanding, but on the internet you have people that think they should be free from being able to be trolled because of things like their sexual identity, gender, race, or lack of l33t gaming skills and in my opinion, that is bullshit!

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Back in my day, gender and biological sex meant literally the same thing. It seems the idea that "sex and gender are not the same thing" has really only gained traction in the past 10 or so years after twitter and tumblr became things. Funny, that.

Luxury Communism
Aug 22, 2015

by Lowtax
It only took us 21 pages, but I think we all learned a valuable lesson about futanari erotica, trap fetishism, and bathroom roleplay today.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Luxury Communism posted:

It only took us 21 pages, but I think we all learned a valuable lesson about futanari erotica, trap fetishism, and bathroom roleplay today.

Eat my poo poo, you gently caress boi

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
I wish I could get surgery for an extra pair of hands or two so I could give this thread 4 or 6 thumbs down.

Luxury Communism
Aug 22, 2015

by Lowtax

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Eat my poo poo, you gently caress boi

You're the t-girl forced into the men's restroom by the lusty closeted republican senator (me)

The poo poo-eating will commence later.

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Let's play three word phrase!


Futa basketball shorts

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Luxury Communism posted:

It only took us 21 pages, but I think we all learned a valuable lesson about futanari erotica, trap fetishism, and bathroom roleplay today.

Lawrence Gilchrist posted:

Let's play three word phrase!


Futa basketball shorts

Quit it you guys. I have a scripted alert that sends me an email whenever "futa" or "futanari" are mentioned and you are blowing up my inbox with false alarms.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
I like Applewhite, I think he is a good poster

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Gammatron 64 posted:

I like Applewhite, I think he is a good poster

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Gammatron 64 posted:

I like Apples

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
I think apples shouldn't pee next to oranges

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Well I feel like we've reached common ground?

Gender relations can likely always be improved but given the emphasis the issue gets overall, I think it's greatly overblown in the U.S. and we should be focusing our attentions elsewhere. Third wave feminism is in fact detrimental IMO to the development of women as I think it actually serves to drive women away from science, technology, or medicine and encourages them to get useless gender studies degrees, focus on very frivilous activism, or at worst push them into politics, where they'll just become assholes. It's a very self-destructive ideology and I'm not at all surprised that the previous generations of feminists don't associate with what the term has come to describe.

In truth, if we could all have reasonable discussions of sensitive subjects without descending into pointless accusations or labels of bigotry, we can actually get a lot of things done. Somebody send the memo to D&D
Yeah I've more or less run out of steam and we seem to have run aground in a good place. I disagree about third wave feminism, but I think we can both agree the way it's presented by many people is unlikely to win converts and some kind of soul-searching w.r.t. tone and rhetoric may be necessary. (I remain somewhat sympathetic to anti-feminists because I used to be one.)

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
It's dumb, but whatever, I think the whole movement is losing its bite. I can only hope for a coming age of reason to finally come and save us from our own stupidity. I'm not optimistic, we're in for four years of loving garbage.

gently caress this gay earth.

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
I was serious about haiku time.

Genderless bathroom
Peristalsis pushing poop
Brown sun peers through clouds

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

How do you like these apples?





It's just tow of them, but i could get more.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

See, the thing about this kind of ideology is as soon as you accept one thing, the next is thrust upon you.

So you worked out a framework for transpeople, and it makes a fair bit of sense. Now you have to accept genderqueer people which flies in the face of biology, sociology, common sense and all the stuff you just worked out to explain transpeople.

In no time transracial and transdisability will be treated as real issues by these types.

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
transracialism already is by some, though that has a much higher barrier to overcome (and I suspect probably never will).

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Frosted Flake posted:

In no time transracial and transdisability will be treated as real issues by these types.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tleSnj4OD0g

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Frosted Flake posted:

See, the thing about this kind of ideology is as soon as you accept one thing, the next is thrust upon you.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

congratulations on a 21-page clusterfuck in an obvious honeypot thread you loving palookas

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
How does this fucker drive an apple car without any limbs or manipulators or anything
Is it a self-driving voice activated dealio

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Al Cowens posted:

How does this fucker drive an apple car without any limbs or manipulators or anything
Is it a self-driving voice activated dealio

worms use the whole length of their bodies to get around so probably he's manipulating the controls with his gross tail

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Luxury Communism posted:

trap fetishism

archer666 hasn't posted, we haven't even received a lesson about this yet

Al Cowens posted:

How does this fucker drive an apple car without any limbs or manipulators or anything
Is it a self-driving voice activated dealio

look at that ear-to-ear grin. it's the smile of a worm who knows hes steering w his dick

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psychokitty
Jun 29, 2010

=9.9=
MEOW
BITCHES


did anyone suck your dick yet

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