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Ibogaine posted:It's amazing that at the end of the day, full communism now inevitably turns out to be the best remedy for all social ills. I wish leftists worked towards the New Soviet Man instead of being thin pale weirdos with goatees. I would be way more behind their causes if they were putting in gym time.
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I like the rehashing of all these common arguments about gender equality, but really I haven't heard any convincing arguments as to why striving for gender equality is called feminism when the word itself is based on one gender.
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SnowblindFatal posted:I like the rehashing of all these common arguments about gender equality, but really I haven't heard any convincing arguments as to why striving for gender equality is called feminism when the word itself is based on one gender. well OP it's like how people still use the phrase "rewind" even though VHS tapes are largely obsolete. Sometimes a word starts out meaning one thing, then that meaning broadens as the idea is developed and explored further you unrelenting bovine fart.
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Aug 12, 2016 19:42
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how many men in here took the red pill after being force fed their diarrhea medicine by their mom in adolescent
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SnowblindFatal posted:I like the rehashing of all these common arguments about gender equality, but really I haven't heard any convincing arguments as to why striving for gender equality is called feminism when the word itself is based on one gender. Honestly tho i do somewhat agree feminism could use a rebranding and it wouldn't be a bad move to make the name more neutral sounding. I think the main hold up there is a lot of feminists just use the naming issue as a litmus test because 99% of people who whine about the name feminism aren't well read on the topic and are likely just using the name as a concern trolling excuse for a cause they wouldn't support anyways.
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SnowblindFatal posted:I like the rehashing of all these common arguments about gender equality, but really I haven't heard any convincing arguments as to why striving for gender equality is called feminism when the word itself is based on one gender. black lives matter
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When Jezebel, everydayfeminism, tumblr and buzzfeed are the face of your movement you need a serious re-branding. I keep hearing people talking about 'fringe elements' but when the fringe elements are all I ever see, third wave feminism really comes off as a movement of extremists. These moderate feminists people keep mentioning certainly aren't the ones writing all the blogs and thinkpieces.
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Aug 12, 2016 20:24
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Gammatron 64 posted:These moderate feminists people keep mentioning certainly aren't the ones writing all the blogs and thinkpieces. Do you think that there might be a reason for that
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Aug 12, 2016 20:27
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A Stupid Baby posted:Do you think that there might be a reason for that Yeah... I'm pretty sure that people who write blogs, online news articles and post on the Internet are the most miserable people on earth People who actually go outside tend to be much happier
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Aug 12, 2016 20:30
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Gammatron 64 posted:When Jezebel, everydayfeminism, tumblr and buzzfeed are the face of your movement you need a serious re-branding. It would be nice to see less crazy, more moderate feminist think-pieces that focus more on how our differences must lead to a beautiful patch-work compromise instead of a clean, sterile 100% equal across-all-boards genderscape that all these blue-haired lardos claim to be fighting for. I enjoy listening to Christina Hoff Summers because she's like a nice mom telling everyone to chill the gently caress out and play nice.
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Aug 12, 2016 20:42
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Another thing i loving hate, I dont think "equalism" is actually a word...gently caress
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Think of those sites like the zines and newsletters in feminist circles a generation ago and it's not so frightening. For every septum ring, blue-hair, sideshave sporting feminist there must be a few chill ones.
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Gammatron 64 posted:When Jezebel, everydayfeminism, tumblr and buzzfeed are the face of your movement you need a serious re-branding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y7L_q65jrE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AIy7kgcrQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq2tgnW4cd4
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Aug 12, 2016 20:48
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Reverse Sexism
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Gammatron 64 posted:When Jezebel, everydayfeminism, tumblr and buzzfeed are the face of your movement you need a serious re-branding. Some of this def has to be confirmation bias and hanging out on the internet too much bc when you say 'modern feminist' I'm thinking Oprah or Ellen Degeneres or Bell Hooks or even Emma Watson not a bunch of random clickbait bullshit that made me mad. Sorry but if you're only looking for fringe then of course that's all you're going to notice. Here are some modern feminist authors. Like bro Jezebel is a loving shock mag and everyone knows it who seriously thinks it is any kind of face of a movement other than people who just want to talk poo poo on feminism? Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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I wish that instead of being angry and hateful, people were nice to each other and got along. Moridin920 posted:Some of this def has to be confirmation bias and hanging out on the internet too much bc when you say 'modern feminist' I'm thinking Oprah or Ellen Degeneres or Bell Hooks or even Emma Watson not a bunch of random clickbait bullshit that made me mad. When stuff like that is what you are typically exposed to, and you constantly see people you actually know share their stuff like it's gospel on the reg, it starts looking like the face of a movement unfortunately. I used to consider myself a feminist, and I suppose I still am one if you use the traditional definition of it in that it's the 'belief that men and women should be treated as equals.' But I've just seen so much evidence that's to the contrary of that, so I've lost faith in the movement. And it's really a shame, but good movements get hijacked by crazy people all the time so this is hardly anything new. In fact, these days the left is becoming almost as poisoned as the right and I really feel like the progressives of the younger generation have really lost their way. It makes me so sad that you wouldn't believe it. Whatever happened to peace and love? (Post 9/11 America and the 24-hour news cycle probably)
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish that instead of being angry and hateful, people were nice to each other and got along. I mean fair enough but I'm just a regular schmoe and I'm pretty much exposed to none of that at all unless I'm in an SA thread about 'look at these dumbos.' It's gotta be somewhat confirmation bias that's all I'm saying. Gammatron 64 posted:In fact, these days the left is becoming almost as poisoned as the right and I really feel like the progressives of the younger generation have really lost their way I agree with that though in a general sense
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Gammatron 64 posted:I wish that instead of being angry and hateful, people were nice to each other and got along.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Whatever happened to peace and love? same thing that happened to the hippies. it's a nice idea but when it comes down to it, neither peace nor love is very good at putting food on the table. plenty of opportunities in the opposites though 
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Aug 12, 2016 22:31
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equalism and feminism are the same thing tho..???
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psychokitty posted:black lives matter Oh, well I guess that makes sense I never really thought about it. 
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Moridin920 posted:Some of this def has to be confirmation bias and hanging out on the internet too much bc when you say 'modern feminist' I'm thinking Oprah or Ellen Degeneres or Bell Hooks or even Emma Watson not a bunch of random clickbait bullshit that made me mad.
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SnowblindFatal posted:But honestly this retarded choice of word is probably the #1 thing preventing gender equality at this point. Agreed, OP
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Gammatron 64 posted:In fact, these days the left is becoming almost as poisoned as the right and I really feel like the progressives of the younger generation have really lost their way. I'm convinced that the left\progressives really really want there to be tons of racists and nazis in the world. They want to be able to feel as brave as the people who actually fought nazis 70 years ago. Basically it's a supply and demand issue; demand for racists is currently very high but the supply is (thankfully) running low these days, so you get poo poo like Ben Affleck calling Bill Maher a racist for criticizing Islam etc etc..
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the media likes to play pattycake and word games and makes everything a hill worth dying on but like 90% of people don't give a poo poo white knights trying to valiantly slay racists are like the people that picket places with 'gay is sin' signs, they're a small minority u should ignore
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Secular Humanist posted:I'm convinced that the left\progressives really really want there to be tons of racists and nazis in the world. They want to be able to feel as brave as the people who actually fought nazis 70 years ago. lol you're completely sideways
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It's important to treat everybody with kindness and patience.
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nigga crab pollock posted:the media likes to play pattycake and word games and makes everything a hill worth dying on but like 90% of people don't give a poo poo
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Poetic Justice posted:It's important to treat everybody with kindness and patience. Except fuckmen
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a hole-y ghost posted:Do the white knights get to kill grand dragons?? wizards actually!!!
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SnowblindFatal posted:But honestly this retarded choice of word is probably the #1 thing preventing gender equality at this point. Are you sure it's not retarded slapfighting about which word is "correct" Or possibly a thirdddddddddddd optionnnnnnnnnnnnnn Who cares what label someone uses, talk to them. TALK TO THEM. There are a billion feminists out there that I find absolutely insane There are a billion "Equalist/egalitarian" people out there that I mostly agree with Hell, I've encountered a couple of people identifying as "MRA" who 1. know and admit there's a huge, poisonous chunk of crazy in their movement and 2. share every important opinion and ideal I have BTW, several years ago, I made a deal with myself. I would consider identifying primarily as an egalitarian once I went six months without a dude listening to my core beliefs and ideals and then condescendingly informing me I'm actually an egalitarian I discount all instances where the conversation is respectful I discount all instances where my own personal beliefs are not discussed at least fairly thoroughly I discount all instances where there's obvious trolling or attempts to piss me off One time I made it four months It doesn't really matter now because I use the above "JUST loving TALK TO PEOPLE" method more than anything these days, purposefully not identifying with anything in the conversation but it still makes a point
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ArbitraryC posted:While i agree with you i have to admit i don't see people sharing bell hooks stuff on facebook, it's all sound and fury garbage from the aforementioned "shock mags". Do you think that people who spend a lot of time posting about politics on Facebook are likely to be moderate in anything whatsoever
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gender wars are a meme invented by fabian globalists in 2011 to fracture occupy wall street and get hillary elected anti-feminist contras are doomed to be exploited by donald trump types for their own agenda best not to think about it too much no war but class war
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A Stupid Baby posted:Do you think that people who spend a lot of time posting about politics on Facebook are likely to be moderate in anything whatsoever My second post itt was about how irl feminists are chill and cool people and that people who think e-feminism is the only kind there is should probably try to separate tumblr people from normal folk. It's just that it's really easy to get the wrong impression in our digital age and i think it'd do the movement some good to be more understanding about that.
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nigga crab pollock posted:the media likes to play pattycake and word games and makes everything a hill worth dying on but like 90% of people don't give a poo poo I dunno, Bernie was pretty popular and even he couldn't resist the occasional virtue signal. I don't think it's necessarily just a tiny minority of the left. The really vocal obnoxious ones are a minority maybe, but not the opinions and ideas. Btw to be clear I am *on* the left and always have been which is why I'm a lot more critical of it these days. I don't want my side going to poo poo; the far right I just consider a lost cause.
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ArbitraryC posted:My second post itt was about how irl feminists are chill and cool people and that people who think e-feminism is the only kind there is should probably try to separate tumblr people from normal folk. It's just that it's really easy to get the wrong impression in our digital age and i think it'd do the movement some good to be more understanding about that. you do see ordinary people walking around high on a form of clickbait feminism that was engineered by media executives to be as attention-stealing as possible the best feminists are honestly the ones who realize that their leaders are all depraved and perverted and that "feminist media" is substantially more often than not a soft sell for the neoliberal agenda also, just lol at fighting over labels: the elites consider their ideological labels a flag of convenience and why that isnt obvious to everyone is beyond me
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MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:I would consider identifying primarily as an egalitarian once I went six months without a dude listening to my core beliefs and ideals and then condescendingly informing me I'm actually an egalitarian I would consider identifying primarily as a Democrat once I went six months without some Republican listening to how I vote straight-ticket Democrat every single election and then condescendingly informing me I'm actually a Democrat.
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Pitdragon posted:the guys who were talking about rich v poor were right. too bad the rich are smart enough to utilize the old "divide and conquer" strategy and get poor people to blame each other for all of society's problems while they continue loving everyone who isn't them behind closed doors Pretty much A transparent society where instant communication is free should be their worst nightmare, but making use of their intelligence and resources (which the poor don't have) they've smartly pointed the cultural conversation away from economic issues and towards dumb gender triviality such as "WHERE CAN A 40 YEAR OLD MAN DRESSED AS A LADY PEE THIS IS IMPORTANT"
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