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Pavaratii was a singer, Paganini was a composer.
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red october is like the perfect military action movie
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Aug 12, 2016 06:11
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numberoneposter posted:red october is like the perfect military action movie dude, schindlers list
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Aug 12, 2016 06:13
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Orkin Mang posted:dude, schindlers list
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Aug 12, 2016 06:17
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The real question is why Jack Ryan had to explain what turbulence was to a flight attendant. I guess he's just so much smarter than everyone else in the world.
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Aug 12, 2016 09:32
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cuck cuck im gay posted:The oval office for Red October Lmao
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Aug 12, 2016 09:36
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numberoneposter posted:did it have nuclear missiles tho like was that mentioned??? If it didn't then why did Sean Connery take possession of the launch keys when he killed the political officer?
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Aug 12, 2016 11:19
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Applewhite posted:Raiders of the Lost Ark would have turned out exactly the same way even if Indiana Jones had stayed at home. omg
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Aug 12, 2016 12:40
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cool is thread about predator ya it's a great movie thanks for asking
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Aug 12, 2016 13:24
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Applewhite posted:Why would it be carrying a payload of nuclear missiles when they hadn't even finished testing the caterpillar drive? It wouldn't even be carrying enough food to sail all the way to the US. sending an experimental boat loaded with nukes to park off DC and not stocking enough food for the crew is actually 100% pure soviet
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Aug 12, 2016 13:33
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Internaut! posted:sending an experimental boat loaded with nukes to park off DC and not stocking enough food for the crew is actually 100% pure soviet Touche.
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Aug 12, 2016 15:52
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The Red October was experimental, not a prototype- so it had already completed its sea trials. A decent book and the first of the Technothriller milfic. The gold standard, however, is Red Storm Rising. Really Really good mil fic books include: Team Yankee Arc Light
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Aug 12, 2016 16:01
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Vasily Tokarev posted:The Red October was experimental, not a prototype- so it had already completed its sea trials. A decent book and the first of the Technothriller milfic. The gold standard, however, is Red Storm Rising. It's"real" mission before it was subverted by Sean Connery was to rendezvous with the other sub to test its caterpillar drive. That would seem to suggest it's not about to go on deterrent patrol any time soon.
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Aug 12, 2016 16:05
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Nutsngum posted:Because Clancy was a hack pretending to be a solider and we are all better off he is dead. harsh but true
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Aug 12, 2016 16:12
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Applewhite posted:Why would it be carrying a payload of nuclear missiles when they hadn't even finished testing the caterpillar drive? It wouldn't even be carrying enough food to sail all the way to the US. Maybe they just didn't have anywhere to put them if they took them out?
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Aug 12, 2016 16:12
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Applewhite posted:Irregardless, it's orders were to proceed to its grid area up north and do tests of the drive with captain Tupolev's boat. Why would they load it up with missiles when it's not going on patrol? The commies were a bunch of dopes. Clancy predicted DnD
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Aug 12, 2016 16:14
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So, was Jack Ryan or Captain Rameus right about Admiral Halsey? I kinda think Rameus was right that he was reckless and the win at Leyte really was just a miracle .
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Aug 12, 2016 16:26
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numberoneposter posted:did it have nuclear missiles tho like was that mentioned??? shome thingsh in here don't react well to bulletsh
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Aug 12, 2016 16:35
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Other Barry posted:shome thingsh in here don't react well to bulletsh Yeah, like me. I don't react well to bullets.
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Aug 12, 2016 16:43
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Hector Beerlioz posted:It's too bad Sam Neil never got to Montana and realized how big of an idiot he was for wanting to live there  He secretly lived, and *did* go to Montana, but instead of raising rabbits he began digging up dinosaur bones, and got so good at it and learned so much about dinosaurs that he was asked to come inspect some rich a-hole's theme park on some island down by Costa Rica...
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Aug 12, 2016 16:46
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Other Barry posted:shome thingsh in here don't react well to bulletsh Loooooshersh whine about their BEST. Winnersh go home and gently caress the prom queen.
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Aug 12, 2016 16:48
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They shend one of yoursh to the hoshpital, you shend one of theirsh to the morgue
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Aug 12, 2016 16:50
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Other Barry posted:shome thingsh in here don't react well to bulletsh So what if you shoot a nuke with a bullet? You'll have a dinged nuke, big deal
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Aug 12, 2016 16:51
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He and the other officers were conspiring. They could totally order a better supply of food to be packed. No one is losing their poo poo up the chain of command because Tupolov is packing his boat with extra biscuits. Now the nuke, well gently caress, they didn't figure out he was speaking with a Scottish brogue so I'm gonna guess missle security wasn't amazing.
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Aug 12, 2016 16:55
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John Denver Hoxha posted:So, was Jack Ryan or Captain Rameus right about Admiral Halsey? Rameus was right, and like you said Taffy 3 was a legit god-drat miracle and is deserving of a James Cameron-esq budget film. It got to the point where they were charging Japanese battleships with destroyers and destroyer escorts, and aircraft were dropping depth charges, strafing, and pretending to strafe battleships to keep them distracted. The best quote is when the Japanese were getting close to the escort carrier. . . "As anti-aircraft gunners observed helplessly, an officer cheered them by exclaiming, "just wait a little longer, boys, we're suckering them into 40-mm range."
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Aug 12, 2016 17:12
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that's just how soviet military was back then, always ready. american dogpigs could have launched a surprise nuclear attack at any second and you needed every nuke ready and every hand on deck to deter them. those nukes on the submarine probably saved billions of lives.
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Aug 12, 2016 17:15
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Hector Beerlioz posted:It's too bad Sam Neil never got to Montana and realized how big of an idiot he was for wanting to live there its like how the vbad guy in the patriot wanted to live in ohio or Idaho or some other lovely state
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Aug 12, 2016 17:15
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waitwhatno posted:that's just how soviet military was back then, always ready. american dogpigs could have launched a surprise nuclear attack at any second and you needed every nuke ready and every hand on deck to deter them. americans were the exact same way. we had bombers with nukes on them in the air 24/7 It was the Cold War. the question wasn't 'do we need nukes on this', it was how 'many nukes can we fit on this?'
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Aug 12, 2016 17:24
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notZaar posted:So what if you shoot a nuke with a bullet? You'll have a dinged nuke, big deal Actually  It's last ditch procedure for the Nuclear Emergency Support Team to just rake suspected nuclear weapons with gunfire because even just a little damage will disrupt the mechanisms and potentially prevent an atomic reaction. I read this years ago so I'm not sure if new nukes have address the weakness to gunfire
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Aug 12, 2016 17:30
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Yeah they're pretty complex devices actually it's not just TNT with a fuse on it.Toadvine posted:I read this years ago so I'm not sure if new nukes have address the weakness to gunfire The only thing they could do really is armor it which would add tons of weight to it and potentially gently caress up the yield somehow if it was a smaller device. Definitely not gonna proof a missile against small arms fire, it'd add too much weight for marginal gain.
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Aug 12, 2016 17:33
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I thought even in the movie they were saying the danger was from the missiles themselves, not the warheads
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Aug 12, 2016 17:37
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So if you punched a nuke right on the tip you could fight it off?
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Aug 12, 2016 17:38
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notZaar posted:So if you punched a nuke right on the tip you could fight it off? the high explosive that would probably still go off would probably still kill you if you're close to it John Denver Hoxha posted:I thought even in the movie they were saying the danger was from the missiles themselves, not the warheads probably yeah. the missiles can still make a pretty big explosion without the nuclear warhead between the rocket fuel and the high explosives in the warhead meant to initiate the nuclear reaction Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 12, 2016 |
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Aug 12, 2016 17:43
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Vasily Tokarev posted:The Red October was experimental, not a prototype- so it had already completed its sea trials. A decent book and the first of the Technothriller milfic. The gold standard, however, is Red Storm Rising. Cheers for this. What are some good mil fic books written in the last few years? Looking for small-unit level stuff with proper combat, not a bunch of scenes of guys walking down Pentagon corridors or terrst-hunting in New York or whatever
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Aug 12, 2016 17:50
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haha luke's lightsabre is suposed to be orange!
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Aug 12, 2016 17:51
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I think I figured this out. The submarine is designed to only operate with the missiles in place, for the ... uh .. beyonce? When you fire them the tubes are flooded with water and the sub can still operate, but it's only a temporary measure because the water is corrosive in the long run.
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Aug 12, 2016 17:53
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Clipperton posted:Cheers for this. What are some good mil fic books written in the last few years? Looking for small-unit level stuff with proper combat, not a bunch of scenes of guys walking down Pentagon corridors or terrst-hunting in New York or whatever Yeah, good poo poo is pretty hard to come by. The problem is, pretty much anything post 9/11 is all Terrorist Hunt... Actually, 9/11 really hosed Clancy up. A big plot point Executive Decision (I think?) was flying an airliner into the capitol. Seeing that scenario played out irl really did a number on him. That's why everything that came after really kind of took a nose dive in quality. I'll take a look through my kindle at current stuff and write up what's good. Now! For small unit stuff?! You can't go wrong with the Brotherhood of war series. It follows the same characters. The first book was written in 1986, and starts at the close of WWII, and follows the same characters as they progress through their career and as the battlefield changes from WWII to Vietnam, and the Cold war of the 1980's. I highly suggest it. Book I, The Lieutenants Book II, The Captains Book III, The Majors Book IV, The Colonels Book V, The Berets Book VI, The Generals Book VII, The New Breed Book VIII, The Aviators Book IX, Special Ops ... Also, check out Larry Bond-- he's they guy who basically co-wrote Red Storm Rising and I actually like him MORE than Clancy. The set pieces and scenarios are are pretty interesting too. it's nice to have something more than "USA VS. RUSSIA OR CHINA OR SOME OTHER GODLESS COMMUNIST NATION: Cauldron: Germany and France vs. US and Eastern Euro Red Phoenix: North Korea invades South Vortex: South Africa and Cuba (The equipment in this is loving rad as poo poo) Bond also has a great sub thriller called Dangerous Ground. Good poo poo
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Aug 12, 2016 18:15
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Larry bond... Wasn't he the Harpoon guy?; That makes sense red storm rising was probably my favorite out of them (because it wasn't a normal Clancy book) haven't read it in like 12 years though...
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Aug 12, 2016 18:20
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John Denver Hoxha posted:Larry bond... Wasn't he the Harpoon guy?; Yep- he's the harpoon guy
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Aug 12, 2016 18:21
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Moridin920 posted:the high explosive that would probably still go off would probably still kill you if you're close to it I think of the high explosives detonate then the nuclear payload will at least explode partially. But it requires a very exact timing so I don't really know. But yea, as was said earlier missiles and rockets are crazy sensitive; if you shot at one with an automatic rifle you'd probably ruin it. Spec ops dudes use their high-caliber sniper rifles to shoot missiles and stuff.
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