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Orkin Mang posted:cool man. everyone has some correlational study they can point to that apparently justifies whatever nonsense they want. theres one about 'boys like trucks/girls like dolls' going around too. come on. So you admit to not understanding it and hence not being able to argue further. That's fine 8-Bit Scholar posted:No it doesn't. By what metric? By what metric does anything determine gender? You're being brazenly dishonest at this point. It is enough that the fact exists, any honest person can draw the necessary conclusions from there.
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On a side note, I like how the argument "no", as a perpetual, repeated, hollow response to everything, apparently makes a man a genius if he's disagreeing with some hated enemy.
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no, he cried out, strictly to hitler no one else listen to this, nooooo
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i just dont give a poo poo
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PBS Newshour posted:Look 8-Bit, not everyone be the quickest to finish record holder in Custard's Revenge. I'm into it. DrowningInDreams posted:By what metric does anything determine gender? You're being brazenly dishonest at this point. It is enough that the fact exists, any honest person can draw the necessary conclusions from there. Boys have penis, girls have vagina? That's a pretty good starting place, don't you think? What am I being dishonest about, even? If you went back and read my initial post I even describe in some detail things that make women into women--life experiences, the development of the body into a form that can bear, sustain and birth life. Things that you said you don't care about. So you don't care about other people's experiences, particularly women, and you just want to be called a girl while having a dick, balls, dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? In what universe do you think that makes a lick of sense?
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Enfield posted:i just dont give a poo poo
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if penis or vagina is the standard of gender what about this woman with 2 vaginas? does this make her a double female or some kind of female primarch?: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...-boyfriend.html please link any related research studies or 7e rulebooks that can spread light on this
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DrowningInDreams posted:On a side note, I like how the argument "no", as a perpetual, repeated, hollow response to everything, apparently makes a man a genius if he's disagreeing with some hated enemy. what is the content of your femininity? its clearly not behavioral bc ur into motorbikes.
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samus is no way trans i refuse to accept that sorry but she was the first strong female role model for many gamers and I refuse to see her coopted like that she is one hundred percent a biological woman and plus she couldn't gently caress ridley if she wasn't so ...
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penis vagina pen is vagina pen = vagina I think we're onto smoething guys
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Robot Pride posted:if penis or vagina is the standard of gender what about this woman with 2 vaginas? does this make her a double female or some kind of female primarch?: either a double female or super female
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Boys have penis, girls have vagina? That's a pretty good starting place, don't you think? It's a pragmatic way of handling things but not a correct one. It's one thing to say it's a starting point, another to call it an ending point. 8-Bit Scholar posted:What am I being dishonest about, even? If you went back and read my initial post I even describe in some detail things that make women into women--life experiences, the development of the body into a form that can bear, sustain and birth life. Things that you said you don't care about. So you don't care about other people's experiences, particularly women, and you just want to be called a girl while having a dick, balls, dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? In what universe do you think that makes a lick of sense? These things make one a woman because you say they do? Your argument rests on nothing. Oh and 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? 8-Bit Scholar posted:dressing and acting completely unlike a woman? Look how wonderfully consistent and honest you are! Your entire argument is bad faith equivocation, in bad faith. I carry a gun because men like you can't be handled by reason and are bound to assert yourselves otherwise eventually.
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Orkin Mang posted:what is the content of your femininity? its clearly not behavioral bc ur into motorbikes. I'm not feminine, I'm just a woman.
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DrowningInDreams posted:I'm not feminine, I'm just a woman. you're prob more feminine than olympic female shotputters because even though they may have a coin slot i really doubt they wear dresses and have tea parties and whatnot
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i just wanna make it clear I am not anti trans i troll all threads equally and without mercy have a nice evening and I love you regardless of what you are. unless you're a pedophile. then I hate you
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DrowningInDreams posted:It's a pragmatic way of handling things but not a correct one. It's one thing to say it's a starting point, another to call it an ending point. I hope you shoot an innocent man and are sent to prison for life
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SaltLick posted:I have a trans friend that was kicked out of the air force about 6 months ago. I feel bad for her because she was so close. They made it not illegal to be both trans and in the military at the end of june, so while I feel bad for your friend, I do find it funny poorly trans were treated all the way up until the moment. I'm sure they were treated worse than regular women. As in: instead of probably getting raped and likely not taken seriously, they were almost certainly raped and definitely weren't taken remotely seriously. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Well if men can become women any time they please, it does sort of create a problem for those advocating for the rights, particularly the equal rights, of women. Gender being equal is easy enough from a legal perspective, but from a sexual and cultural perspective it's incredibly troublesome for a man to literally be able to take the one thing a woman can feel entitled to--her sex--and appropriate it. I'm afraid that there is not much that can be done to educate you. Have a good night. Zorodius posted:Do trans people tend to take up gender-typical hobbies from their transition gender? Some do. I have very feminine hobbies, but I always did. The only masculine hobby I ever had was working on cars, but that is encapsulated in the fact I just like crafting poo poo. I don't know if hormonal balance has to do with picking up gender-aligned hobbies, or if it has more to do with repressed feelings/interests or simply just wanting to fit in. It's probably a varied mixture of each unique to the individial, but I don't care to speculate further. Orkin Mang posted:transgenderism is the very enemy of feminism Orkin Mang posted:transgenderism is logically dependent upon the very gender stereotypes that feminists spent generations challenging. I don't think this is the thread for you. You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think your opinion is well-educated, and therefore more assumptuous more than anything. Ill Peripheral posted:Question to all you trans ppl in here, did any of you's have sex with Ryan Lochte in Rio??? Nah Robot Pride posted:i used to serve hot dogs and now i serve tacos ask me anything Where the buns at
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Mange Mite posted:I hope you shoot an innocent man and are sent to prison for life That's not very nice, least of all to the innocent man.
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Celluloid Sam posted:i just wanna make it clear I am not anti trans i troll all threads equally and without mercy have a nice evening and I love you regardless of what you are. unless you're a pedophile. then I hate you Whoah whoa whoa look at this bigoted shitlord
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There's nothing funnier than a grown man tucking his penis between his legs and going "I'm a lady, I'm a lady!!"
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DrowningInDreams posted:That's not very nice, least of all to the innocent man. you can shoot me I volunteer
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Celluloid Sam posted:you can shoot me I volunteer Are you of sound mind?
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DrowningInDreams posted:Are you of sound mind? hahaha
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if trans doesn't exist how can you ban it BOOM flawless logic 
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Robot Pride posted:if penis or vagina is the standard of gender what about this woman with 2 vaginas? does this make her a double female or some kind of female primarch?: Yes, actually, the more genitals you have the more gender points you have. With my ten dicks, I am actually a literal god of men. DrowningInDreams posted:These things make one a woman because you say they do? Your argument rests on nothing. First I'm dishonest and now I'm inconsistent, but you somehow neglect to specify how? Oh wait what, now I'm a rapist? Lmao, so first you don't give a poo poo about women, then you profess to looking not even remotely feminine, then you say that I'm incorrect by saying that your definition of woman makes no sense, but you don't actually have a rebuttal. Are you just claiming an inaccurate gender identity to somehow stand out? Was being a philosophy-reading, motorcycle-riding, gun-toting dude not unique enough for you? I made a statement that women could clearly have cause for umbrage about men appropriating their sex. In response to that, you have claimed first to not care, and then gone on to insult anyone who questioned your identity, accuse me of being a rapist, and insisted that you need to remain armed so as to defend against persons like myself, who apparently are a risk to your life for daring to suggest that maybe your gender identity ought to be more than just a collection of stereotypes and a need for feeling special? Tonetta posted:They made it not illegal to be both trans and in the military at the end of june, so while I feel bad for your friend, I do find it funny poorly trans were treated all the way up until the moment. And now trans women are even more victims then women are? It really is a co-opting. I'll actually say that I've worked with a former airmen who is now a woman and they managed to go through a full military career rape free and then used their money to pay for their surgery afterwards, so when you say there isn't much you can do to educate me, I'm not sure what you could pull out of your rear end that I haven't seen before.
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Mange Mite posted:Hm if i type lots of words in an authoritative tone then people will believe my scientifically dubious claims A dishonest man will be unconvinced by any argument, might as well have fun with mine. It's not like the style of an argument effects the content, as any first year student knows.
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Mods in the interests of progress and equality please merge this thread with the "how to deal with being an ugly chick" thread
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DrowningInDreams posted:A dishonest man will be unconvinced by any argument, might as well have fun with mine. It's not like the style of an argument effects the content, as any first year student knows. Yess I also huff my own farts as I write
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DrowningInDreams posted:A dishonest man will be unconvinced by any argument, might as well have fun with mine. It's not like the style of an argument effects the content, as any first year student knows. ahem *affects
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Boys have penis, girls have vagina? It's actually not anywhere near that simple, and gender is not a simple binary equation. The number of intersex conditions that can arise is much higher than you are aware of, to begin with, and within the general population there is a spectrum of gender. Yes, it is concentrated on two main points, but there is a lot of variation between and around those.
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Mange Mite posted:Mods in the interests of progress and equality please merge this thread with the "how to deal with being an ugly chick" thread lol
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