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have we talked about how intel's doing on linux lately? Ubuntu & Debian Abandon Intel X.Org Driver For Most Hardware, Moves To Modesetting DDX i don't know what happened to intel, but their driver quality for new hardware is really lovely Intel HD 520 failed to train DP when connected with a external monitor Errors on lid close/open, black screen. [SKL] Flashing black screen ([drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun) Buglist "skylake" mjg59 also wrote this about skylake power management, but I think that one if fixed now in the past you bought intel if you wanted to be safe that it worked without issues in linux. but now, from haswell and newer (especially skylake), it's a complete shitshow. it seems like all r&d money goes to the hardware guys. had to switch to xf86-video-modesetting myself on a skylake hd 530, xf86-video-intel w/sna accel artifacts like hell if I use more than one monitor. the monitor wont turn on after suspending the laptop either. what the hell, intel?
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actually Intel linux drivers have always been bad. Intel is very bad at making software.
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Aug 20, 2016 11:15
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The Management posted:actually linux drivers have always been bad.
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Aug 20, 2016 12:15
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The Management posted:actually linux have always been bad software.
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Aug 20, 2016 12:30
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things definitely got worse during these two last generations of chipsets anyone using linux on a newish laptop with an intel gpu/chipset and _not_ had any issues?
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Aug 20, 2016 14:25
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Intel de-prioritized a lot of non-money making projects recently and graphics on linux is certainly not what I would call a profit center.
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 this has to incur some kind of negative consequences in the long run maybe with amd's new effort with amdgpu it might be them who'll take over the defacto linux hw throne (if they actually manage to produce some mobile apus that oems gonna buy)
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Aug 20, 2016 17:37
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Tankakern posted:
why? Linux is for ssh not using on console and if you're going to use Linux on console all olwm and xterm need is a frame buffer, for which a 25+ year old CPU has plenty of performance
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Aug 20, 2016 17:42
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i see shaggar lite has been summoned
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Aug 20, 2016 17:52
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your poor choice in os is not intel's fault. yospos bitch
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Aug 20, 2016 18:13
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Tankakern posted:linux [...] is really lovely. 
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Aug 21, 2016 19:27
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:
 just hope that intel haven't acquired some crazy shaggars in high management who _wants_ linux to be lovely if so i hope pleasurekevin gets his will and amd will rise again
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Aug 21, 2016 20:35
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didnt the guy who did the majority of the work in supporting intel graphics hardware publicly quit doing that recently? like a rant-ish (but justified afaik) post on a mailing list or something
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Aug 22, 2016 01:49
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Intel decided they couldn't let AMD hold the title of worst linux drivers for cpu/chipsets/gpus and are beating them now
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Aug 22, 2016 02:03
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The Management posted:actually Intel linux drivers have always been bad. Intel is very bad at making software.
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Aug 22, 2016 03:32
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Tankakern posted:anyone using linux on a newish laptop with an intel gpu/chipset and _not_ had any issues? yep works fine the opengl is dirt slow. but it always has been.
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Aug 22, 2016 04:28
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of course i haven't had a skylake laptop yet
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then you got some git clone -b drm-intel-nightly and i915.enable_psr=0 to look forward to, i guess
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Aug 22, 2016 10:20
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they just want to make sure you get the full linux experience searching text only forums and reply chains for hours finding a patch by some random person recompiling every piece of software and dependancy
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Aug 22, 2016 14:35
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Why are you using Linux in such a way that graphics drivers matter?
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eschaton posted:Linux is for ssh not using on console
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Aug 22, 2016 15:26
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linux works great on my skylake nuc
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have you tried connecting more than one monitor to it
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no why would i want to use a monitor with a linux lmao
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you brought this upon yourself
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Citizen Tayne posted:Why are you using Linux in such a way that graphics drivers matter? laptops, mang
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:laptops, mang linux doesn't go on laptops
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Citizen Tayne posted:Why are you using Linux in such a way that graphics drivers matter? none of the machine learning poo poo works on windows, but that's not important right now
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Tankakern posted:in the past you bought intel if you wanted to be safe that it worked without issues in linux. but now, from haswell and newer (especially skylake), it's a complete shitshow. it seems like all r&d money goes to the hardware guys. by "in the past" do you mean "a decade ago when desktops used software rendering". because that was about the only time i remember having no problems at all. i have a broadwell laptop chip (i5-5300u) and things work generally in ubuntu-gnome 16.04. For a while i had some issues using the gnome3 multi-monitor control panel, where i'd make a change and on the first try it wouldn't do the change, or the change wouldn't stick, but then eventually it would work. i've had some odd artifact issues now and then, too the thing that annoys me is the question i ask myself sometimes, "how do i diagnose this graphics problem and file a bug". i don't really know how all the graphics junk works in your average linux distribution, but i am aware that it involves words like kernel, driver, x11, mesa, drm, window manager, opengl, distribution maintainers, and more. i don't know how all of these things fit together or even what each of them does individually, so i have little idea on where to start or who to bug about it. and even if i did figure part of it out, there's the chance that i'd file a bug and end up getting snarked at
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I used Linux on the desktop from 1996 to 2006 or so Lmao if you value your time that little
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The Management posted:linux doesn't go on laptops that's right, it goes on the desktops
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blowfish posted:that's right, it goes on the desktops not this year 
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Citizen Tayne posted:I used Linux on the desktop from 1996 to 2006 or so mainframe program sneers at unix micros, film at eleven
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Citizen Tayne posted:I used Linux on the desktop from 1996 to 2006 or so i ended up buying a mac because i needed to use adobe software
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I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say linux now, linux tomorrow, linux forever
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i have had some flavor of unix on the desktop since 2000-ish -- freebsd, solaris, linux etc. not coincidentally nearly all of my jobs have been unix shops
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My job is 90% Linux, 10% mainframe Lol at using that poo poo on the desktop.
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i was once an unironic amiga fanboy and i eat garbage
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Phoenixan posted:i was once an unironic amiga fanboy and i eat garbage the only good amiga was the one that ran unix edit: 
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