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fyallm posted:Why is Brees at 2.01 pretty awful? With how we score he is technically the #1 QB out there.. Your goal is to outscore your opponent each week, which is not the same thing necessarily as having the best player at the highest scoring position. Carr + Jamaal Charles (or whoever at 2.01) would easily outscore Brees + Sims. You're looking at probably an 8-10 point per game difference at RB there, and a 3-4 point gap at QB in the opposite direction, using full PPR and 6 point passing touchdowns. This is the main reason people recommend waiting on QB in most leagues (with the exception of 2QB/superflex); the gap between top QB and middling QB is quite small compared to RB or WR.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, it's a free agent auction with a $200 budget. I'm thinking about trying to initiate a trade of someone for Odell Beckham Jr in order to strengthen up my WR game, especially since he was the very first pick via auto draft so the person might not be the most attached to him. I just need to figure out who to offer up.
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RVProfootballer posted:Your goal is to outscore your opponent each week, which is not the same thing necessarily as having the best player at the highest scoring position. Carr + Jamaal Charles (or whoever at 2.01) would easily outscore Brees + Sims. You're looking at probably an 8-10 point per game difference at RB there, and a 3-4 point gap at QB in the opposite direction, using full PPR and 6 point passing touchdowns. This is the main reason people recommend waiting on QB in most leagues (with the exception of 2QB/superflex); the gap between top QB and middling QB is quite small compared to RB or WR. Hummm alright that is a good reason. I will have to remember that going into next year...
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OxySnake posted:How many people in the league and what are the scoring rules? Also what kind of draft? 10 person league that I told somebody I would do so they would hit 10 people and I was told it's 100% default ESPN rules but outside of that I have no clue. RVProfootballer posted:I don't hate it. L. Murray and Jennings are fantastic bench RBs, but yeah you really need to drop your extra kicker, extra defense, and extra QB for some WRs. There is a big old list of available WR's left, any idea on who I should target?  I was thinking about the Mike Wallace/Joe Flacco connection but I already have too many bad Ravens on my team
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Asema posted:There is a big old list of available WR's left, any idea on who I should target? The Raven you want is Kamar Aiken, not Mike Wallace. Other options would be Rishard Matthews, Steve Smith Sr.
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Asema posted:10 person league that I told somebody I would do so they would hit 10 people and I was told it's 100% default ESPN rules but outside of that I have no clue. If Kenny Stills' injury isn't serious, he could be a good pickup as he seems locked in to the #2 role in Miami (much to Parker owners' chagrin). I also like Chris Hogan to have an impact this year.
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Seconding Aiken, Stills, and Hogan. They're probably the only 3 WRs on that list that I would give a passing glance, and probably in that order e: also Crowder, but he's in the same boat as Hogan where he's more of a WR6 stash-and-see and not much of an immediate impact. However, Crowder is definitely an add if it were keeper/dynasty Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aiken and Rishard Matthews for sure, then one of Stills, Crowder, or DGB, imo. All are worth dropping Stafford for when you've got Cam. Edit: Rishard Matthews is clearly above Hogan and Stills for me, but Hogan is fine to add in that latter pile of "third add" guys.
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I picked up Aiken/Matthews/Hogan as more WRs
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Tom Brady can make even the deepest WR on the chart look good. The question is whether he will last through 4 weeks of Jimmy G's Wild Ride to get there
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Sorry to repost this but only got one response last night and wanted some additional feedback. Are my RB's really that bad? I think my other positions make up for it but maybe I need to do some work. 12 Team, Half PPR 
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MrSargent posted:Sorry to repost this but only got one response last night and wanted some additional feedback. Are my RB's really that bad? I think my other positions make up for it but maybe I need to do some work. You just have no depth whatsoever, plus neither of your starters is a locked in, minimal risk RB1 by any means (a la AP, Gurley, Miller). If Lacy doesn't bounce back, you're looking at best case of starting two mid/low end RB2s. If Lacy gets injured, you're boned if you don't get Starks. The rest of your team is definitely good, but getting another solid RB2 would help a lot. Not sure you can afford to trade Marvin Jones for one, though. Stashing Dion Lewis in IR is a good plan, but won't help you for quite awhile.
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They aren't terrible, imo. I think Eddie has a decent chance at a very solid year, but probably nothing flashy. Latavius I worry more about, but since you got DeAndre you can at least adjust if he starts getting more production than LMurr. McKinnon is a player I love and own in dynasty (along with LMurr), but I'm not sure he'll get a big opportunity. I might consider looking for a trade to upgrade one of your RBs, but I'd wait a couple of weeks to see if you can some value off your bench to trade for that RB.
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Chernabog posted:
Quoting myself because this my first draft not on autopick and I got no responses. Is it decent at least? I'm thinking if trading cooks since otherwise I will have 4 people on bye for week 5.
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12 team 1ppr 6ptTD, picking 10th 1(10). David Johnson 2(15). AJ Green 3(34). LeSean McCoy 4(39). Jarvis Landry 5(58). Danny Woodhead 6(63). Drew Brees 7(82). Allen Hurns 8(87). Tyler Lockett 9(106). Kevin White 10(111). Julius Thomas 11(130). Ryan Fitzpatrick 12(135). Darren Sproles 13(154). Eric Ebron 14(159). Tyler Eifert 15(178). Blair Walsh 16(183). Steelers D/ST I'll be streaming my kicker and defense. I probably should have done something different with Ebron/Eifert, but I figure Eifert will be good later, and maybe I can grade Thomas/Ebron. Generally pretty happy, I have a waiver pickup for CJ2K already (We have an IR spot, so I stashed Eifert).
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MalleusDei posted:12 team 1ppr 6ptTD, picking 10th Trade Ebron for RB depth if you can. I personally don't like Eifert just because he's so injury prone but he's serviceable. Dump Sproles for McCoy's backup. Sproles will do 40 points 1 game then nothing for half the season side is the definition of boom and bust. You did pretty good overall.
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IMO Eifert is classic last year's hype. He was a darling last year because his ADP was super low and he was healthy for the first time in forever. Now his ADP is (typically) higher* and he's already hurt. I don't know why anyone thinks that last year was the beginning of a new trend and not an aberration. *That's by far the lowest I've seen him go, and he's not really a bad stash under those circumstances, but point still stands.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Trade Ebron for RB depth if you can. I personally don't like Eifert just because he's so injury prone but he's serviceable. Dump Sproles for McCoy's backup. Sproles will do 40 points 1 game then nothing for half the season side is the definition of boom and bust. You did pretty good overall. Disagree. Sproles is behind Glass Ryan Mathews this year, and is a much safer bet for consistent touches than guessing right on the #2 back in Buffalo. Pederson has used receiving backs well in the past. If you're handcuffing McCoy, Is it Reggie Bush, Gilislee or Williams?
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RVProfootballer posted:You just have no depth whatsoever, plus neither of your starters is a locked in, minimal risk RB1 by any means (a la AP, Gurley, Miller). If Lacy doesn't bounce back, you're looking at best case of starting two mid/low end RB2s. If Lacy gets injured, you're boned if you don't get Starks. Yah I got put in a tough place drafting #1 overall because when it came to me at the end of the 2nd, there had been a run on RBs. I was expecting to get Ingram, Martin, or McCoy but they were all gone. I couldn't risk passing on an RB again and the ones available were Lacy, CJA, Forte, JStew, Carlos Hyde, Rawls. All of them were gone before my next pick. Maybe Lacy wasn't the best choice but I didn't have a lot of options.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:IMO Eifert is classic last year's hype. He was a darling last year because his ADP was super low and he was healthy for the first time in forever. Now his ADP is (typically) higher* and he's already hurt. I don't know why anyone thinks that last year was the beginning of a new trend and not an aberration. Eifert is also probably missing somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-6 games, which is a significant enough percentage of the regular season to make him a Do Not Draft candidate.
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I drafted two teams last night, both non-PPR and pretty much stock scoring. 10 team, 5th pick:  12 team, 7th pick:  I'm feeling OK about the ESPN team but very bleh about the Yahoo one. Thankfully that's the "Oh sure I'll play fantasy I guess?" work league, so I can probably swing some decent waiver pickups and trades.
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12-team, 1 PPR league with 1 QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 FLX (W/R/T). Drafted 9th: QB: Carson Palmer RB: Jamaal Charles, Lamar Miller, Justin Forsett, DeAndre Washington, Devontae Booker WR: Demaryius Thomas, Golden Tate, Julian Edelman, Donte Moncrief, Rishard Matthews, Devin Funchess, Markus Wheaton TE: Julius Thomas D/ST: Pittsburgh Not flashy or exciting but could be solid. I will need to drop someone for a kicker, though. Wheaton? 
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Inspector_666 posted:I drafted two teams last night, both non-PPR and pretty much stock scoring. For your 10-team, I think you did pretty well, but I don't really like Foster in non-PPR formats. They are likely to mix his usage on running plays with Ajayi and he will likely see a lot of passing downs which is less valuable in non-PPR formats. On the same note, Edelman has looked a little rusty and really thrives in PPR formats, plus Brady won't be back until Game 5. For the 12-team, you are looking a little thin. Same comments on Foster, and I am not a fan of Rashad Jennings as your starting flex. DT is solid but I am not sold on Golden Tate. I like your bench depth though so hopefully one of those pans out. I think Crabtree could be a solid flex play.
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Cervixalot posted:Disagree. Sproles is behind Glass Ryan Mathews this year, and is a much safer bet for consistent touches than guessing right on the #2 back in Buffalo. Pederson has used receiving backs well in the past. They cut Williams, so people have been saying Gilislee.
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Cervixalot posted:Disagree. Sproles is behind Glass Ryan Mathews this year, and is a much safer bet for consistent touches than guessing right on the #2 back in Buffalo. Pederson has used receiving backs well in the past. Gilislee, most likely, but like, why? Would the Buffalo offense actually operate the same should McCoy go down? Does anyone have faith in any of those three RBs to put up anything more than plug-and-pray flex numbers? I agree that Sproles is a much better stash than the guy who is next in line in Buffalo, especially considering you don't need your current starter to go down for him to potentially provide you with value. Even if McCoy misses half the season, I'd put even money on Sproles outscoring all three of those RBs even with a healthy Mathews. Cervixalot posted:Eifert is also probably missing somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-6 games, which is a significant enough percentage of the regular season to make him a Do Not Draft candidate. I think the situation in question where he falls to the 2nd or 3rd to last round and there's an IR spot to stash him in, he's just as good of a lottery ticket as any TE, but I would agree wholeheartedly. Anyone drafting Eifert in any scenario but the aforementioned is just asking for trouble Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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MrSargent posted:For your 10-team, I think you did pretty well, but I don't really like Foster in non-PPR formats. They are likely to mix his usage on running plays with Ajayi and he will likely see a lot of passing downs which is less valuable in non-PPR formats. On the same note, Edelman has looked a little rusty and really thrives in PPR formats, plus Brady won't be back until Game 5. The actual lineup on the Yahoo team is just me maximizing the projections because I'm weird and need that security blanket, so it'll probably change before gameday. But yeah, I feel like I got a bunch of WR2s and lottery tickets on that end. I'm not really a big NFL guy, and I autodrafted last year because I was out of town on draft night, so I think this year I mixed trying to be too smart with picking favorites from last year's team and it burned me. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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MrSargent posted:Yah I got put in a tough place drafting #1 overall because when it came to me at the end of the 2nd, there had been a run on RBs. I was expecting to get Ingram, Martin, or McCoy but they were all gone. I couldn't risk passing on an RB again and the ones available were Lacy, CJA, Forte, JStew, Carlos Hyde, Rawls. All of them were gone before my next pick. Maybe Lacy wasn't the best choice but I didn't have a lot of options. Oh, I'd definitely have gone Lacy there, no problem with that. I just would've really tried to get another mid round, flex-worthy guy too. If they weren't there, they weren't there, but that's still the clear weak spot and just something to be aware of. Nothing that can't be fixed by being aggressive with waivers and grabbing breakout candidates early in the year.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Gilislee, most likely, but like, why? Would the Buffalo offense actually operate the same should McCoy go down? Does anyone have faith in any of those three RBs to put up anything more than plug-and-pray flex numbers? I agree that Sproles is a much better stash than the guy who is next in line in Buffalo, especially considering you don't need your current starter to go down for him to potentially provide you with value. Even if McCoy misses half the season, I'd put even money on Sproles outscoring all three of those RBs even with a healthy Mathews. I'd rather have a handcuff over Sproles personally. The guy guarantees nothing even with Ryan Matthews being made of balsa wood. Gilislee/Bills handcuff came to mind because he has McCoy already. I'd endorse any of the change of pace or handcuff backs over Sproles. He busts far to often for my taste.
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Not all handcuffs are DeAngelo Williams and not every offense is the Steelers. I shudder to think of hitching my wagon to a McCoy-less Bills offense. Might as well just send Chacandrick West out there and hope that Charles goes down mid-game. vvv e: And what he said. Williams is likely the most talented and most likely to take the job should something happen, but he's completely unknown. Holding on to one of the other two Buffalo RBs while he would sit on the WW untouched forever would be the same was wasting a bench spot on Knile Davis all season last year like a jamoke only to watch some other owner, who is clearly better and smarter than you and superior in every way, pick up West for free. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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MalleusDei posted:They cut Williams, so people have been saying Gilislee. Sorry, should have specified - I meant Jonathan Williams, the back they drafted from Arkansas in the 5th round? this year. He's looked good in preseason. The Bills beat is saying it's Reggie Bush as the #2, Gillislee is the favorite by some fantasy analysts for the backup role, and still others have Jonathan Williams as the most talented all-around back to get a crack at the job by mid-late season if Shady gets hurt. I'm betting on Jonathan Williams in dynasty, but for this season, good luck getting that dice roll right.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Ritual suicide I'm a Browns fan this is what I feared....goodbye everyone.
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Rate my PowerTeam AARP .5 ppr, standard roster, 10-teamer, snake, picked 7th overall QB: Ben the Rapist (7) RB1: Adrian Peterson (1) RB2: Jamaal Charles (2) WR1: Demaryius Thomas (3) WR2: Brandin Cooks (4) flex: Demarco Murray (5) TE: Gary Barnidge (8) BE: Larry Fitzgerald (6) BE: Josh Gordon (9) BE: Isaiah Crowell (10) BE: Julius Thomas (11) BE: Justin Forsett (12) BE: Devin Funchess (13) BE: Derek Carr (14) I wasn't getting any of the young WR up-and-comers save for Funchess so I reached for Gordon. Overall I'm pretty satisfied with my team.
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Cervixalot posted:good luck getting that dice roll right. 
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Inspector 34 posted:We're 12 team .5ppr and I can't decide if I should be excited or depressed over this: Okay, so in the first round you took dez, must've been later in the round. So then in the second round early you picked... Allen? Then reed hung around til the third round. Then in the fourth you took... Marshall... Then in the fifth round you took.... this is where things start to get weird for me... whom did you take?
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Constructive criticism please! Yahoo 12 team standard scoring- I picked ninth So in my drunken state I had the commish just pick my last two rounds which is why I have three QBs. Im going to drop Fitzpatrick (for a RB? WR?) but any other glaring weaknesses I should address? E: Dan Bailey is my K and I picked Denvers D
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Drunk Nerds posted:Okay, so in the first round you took dez, must've been later in the round. So then in the second round early you picked... Allen? Then reed hung around til the third round. Then in the fourth you took... Marshall... Then in the fifth round you took.... this is where things start to get weird for me... whom did you take? I had the 8th pick and ended up keeping Dez. I tried to change this but keepers were already locked. My thinking was that at the 8th pick Dez would almost certainly be there anyway, so there's no reason for me to keep him and every reason to keep my options open. But again, keepers had already locked. 8 - Dez 20 - Brandon Marshal 29 - Keenan Allen 44 - Jordan Reed 53 - Chris Ivory 68 - Deangello Williams 77 - Bort 92 - Forsett 101 - Shepard 116 - Aiken 125 - Gostkowski 140 - Javorious 149 - Packers D/ST 164 - Alfred Morris 173 - Kenny Stills 188 - CJ2K I hadn't looked at the draft recap until just now and man, it's ugly. Knowing what my weaknesses are now and the players that were available at the time I think round 4-6 is where I just completely hosed up. Here are some of the players that were still available at each of those draft picks, obviously things would have changed if my decisions were different but for the sake of 20/20 hindsight I probably should have taken any of the following guys: 4th Round - Demarco Murray, Latavius Murray, Jeremy Langford, Melvin Gordon, Frank Gore 5th Round - Frank Gore, Giovani Bernard, Derrick Henry, TJ Yeldon 6th Round - Arian Foster, Danny Woodhead After that I think many or all of the people I ended up with would still be there for the taking except for Jordan Reed. Ugh, this is going to be a long season for this team. I think that if I can trade one of my receivers for a true RB1 I might be alright. Seems like people are really averse to trading before the season even starts though, so hopefully one of Dez, Marshall, or Allen will score a billion points in week 1 so I can score a good RB. edit: Rounds 7 & 8 were also real dumb. Instead of Bort I could have still have taken Woodhead or Jennings, in fact Woodhead was still there when I grabbed Forsett. Ugh, what a stupid idiot I was, I mean I was drinking that evening but I was nowhere near drunk enough to use that as an excuse. Inspector 34 fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Keith Atherton posted:Constructive criticism please! Yahoo 12 team standard scoring- I picked ninth It looks like you're pretty good at QB and WR but pretty thin at RB. Considering you only really have to start one you might be ok but I'd keep your eyes on the wire for the next big thing. Woodhead would be good in a PPR but since SD are down to just him and Gordon you might be in pretty good shape anyway. I must have done 50 mocks before my draft tonight but it all went out the window on my first pick. I hadn't taken him in any of my mocks but I was dealt the 11th pick overall and Ezekiel Elliott was the top pick on the board. I know I reached for a couple picks but when there are so many picks in between its hard to judge, especially in a weird rear end draft that saw Russell Wilson go in the 3rd round and defenses start to go in the 8th. - E: check that the first D/ST off the board was the last pick of Rnd 7. 12 team PPR, 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB/TE 1K 1D/ST 11th pick overall. Make fun of my team: 1 Elliott RB DAL 2 Marshall WR JETS 3 Latavious RB OAK 4 Maclin WR KC 5 Floyd WR AZ 6 Barnidge TE CLE (reach) 7 Lockett WR SEA 8 Blount RB NE 9 Powell RB JETS 10 Arizona D/ST 11 Winston QB TB 12 Deandre Washington RB OAK 13 Sanu WR ATL 14 Fitzmagic QB JETS 15 Terrance West RB BAL 16 Prater K DET
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