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Hope you guys are excited for the Zack Snyder remake that's coming out next year. It's Scarlet Johanson and Matt Damon.
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i hear that the film has weird AIDS poo poo (the barons grody splodin' boils?) but as someone who wasn't yet nutted out when the AIDS panic was in full swang I don't totally get it like "full blown AIDS" gives a very specific mental image and while I understand skin lesions are a part of end stage AIDS, the fat floaty spurting monster murder man pulling heartplugs out of lil blond kids is not quite a part of the aforementioned mental image
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skasion posted:Jodos sci fi comic books (Metabarons/Technopriests/especially Incal) are really good which is I think what gives some people the idea that a Jodo Dune would have been the best poo poo ever yeah i've only read incal but it was pretty fuckin wild
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Gatekeeper posted:i hear that the film has weird AIDS poo poo (the barons grody splodin' boils?) but as someone who wasn't yet nutted out when the AIDS panic was in full swang I don't totally get it When you're that fat you probably need aids for a lot of things. Mobility is tough.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:13
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Gatekeeper posted:i hear that the film has weird AIDS poo poo (the barons grody splodin' boils?) but as someone who wasn't yet nutted out when the AIDS panic was in full swang I don't totally get it He was supposed to be a scary homosexual man so it makes sense to throw AIDS in, seeing as it's a highly infectious incurable disease that is closely associated with gay sex.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:29
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Gatekeeper posted:i hear that the film has weird AIDS poo poo (the barons grody splodin' boils?) but as someone who wasn't yet nutted out when the AIDS panic was in full swang I don't totally get it In the book (maybe books, only read the original), Harkonnen is a gay dude, which is supposed to be a sign of just how wrongheaded and perverse he is. In the film he's just a terrifying fat sociopath who is extremely ill. He has a weirdo twink bring him flowers and kills him for a lark but like ultimately you could see it as him just getting off on destroying fetishised innocence without him being gay imo. I feel like the AIDS thing is a modern imposition on the film but maybe that's just me.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:29
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jBrereton posted:Ehh. He comes off as pretty homo in the movie overall. sweatily mumbling about lovely Feyd and all that
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Sep 9, 2016 19:21
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Gatekeeper posted:El Topo and Holy Mountain are def cool movies and it's fun how jodorowsky was like "yes! i am into buddhism, and also hinduism, catholics are cool also, check out this native american thingy I got at the gift shop at the continental divide in new mexico! let's go down to the new age tarot card fortune teller's crystal store and buy a bunch of neat statues and tapestries and make a movie out of them!" like you can tell he's genuinely just really excited about every religious concept he stumbles across and he haphazardly throws everything together along with imagery specifically chosen "because fucken it looks cool!" Seems like a good analysis. I wouldn't downplay Jodorowsky's analysis of society and individuals, though. He definitely has an unique approach to things.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:53
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skasion posted:He comes off as pretty homo in the movie overall. sweatily mumbling about lovely Feyd and all that
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Sep 9, 2016 20:14
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Skip the movie and just play the gently caress out of the Virgin Interactive game.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:37
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The best thing about finding that deleted scene where Thufir commits suicide than kill Paul is that there's a wide shot that confirms the Atreides pug survived the battle of Arrakeen, because he's being held by a Fremen child. jBrereton posted:Ehh. TBF, it wasn't until recently (like in the last 10-15 years) I had seen the theatrical version despite watching it countless times on TV and when that scene came up, because it was excised from the TV edits, I read it as the Baron raping the twink in the heart plug. It is another orifice, after all  Also, the blood splatter from that scene is more like ejaculation than the other instances of the heart plugs being yanked.Also, it never occurred to me that the Baron had a heart plug when Alia slices him with her gom jabbar. I had originally thought it was just viscera from her stabbing him.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:21
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The book baron, his gayness is character trait. He is an absolute fucker in a different way. He is smart, he has serious beef with atreides, and he's cunning. He is not AIDS-Metaphor Homo Satan like in the lynch version. My biggest gripe is honestly how the harkonnen are handled in the lynch version. His sons are legitimate morons and he's weaving these intricate plans, trying desperately to both educate his sons in the high stakes of interstellar politics while also setting up a hegemony that will outlast his dumb and sadistic sons. Maybe would seem pretty boring on film
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hemophilia posted:The book baron, his gayness is character trait. He is an absolute fucker in a different way. He is smart, he has serious beef with atreides, and he's cunning. He is not AIDS-Metaphor Homo Satan like in the lynch version. My biggest gripe is honestly how the harkonnen are handled in the lynch version. His sons are legitimate morons and he's weaving these intricate plans, trying desperately to both educate his sons in the high stakes of interstellar politics while also setting up a hegemony that will outlast his dumb and sadistic sons. Social hegemony really is a delicate topic,, unless you are a sociology junkie 
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Sep 10, 2016 01:40
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LT56 posted:Social hegemony really is a delicate topic,, unless you are a sociology junkie im afraid this triggered me for some reason
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Sep 10, 2016 01:42
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AIDS-Metaphor Homo Satan would make a great username
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Sep 10, 2016 01:44
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Is there a definitive print of the book? I haven't read it since highschool and this thread is making me want to grab a copy.
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Sep 10, 2016 02:03
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I have a really early edition, first or second, it might be worth some money. I'll sell it to you for $500 regardless of what edition it actually it is, the quality it's in (i haven't seen it in a long time but it's certainly rotting in a box). There's your definitive. Herbert never revised the book IIRC so real talk unless you're talking about getting a collectible for bragging rights they're all the same, you might get a forward from an author nobody gives a gently caress about, or his hack son, if you look for something recent.
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Sep 10, 2016 02:07
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jBrereton posted:Ehh. this is exactly how i read it too, in the book the baron killing some lil servant boy played like "devious homosexual", in the movie not so much, more "sociopathic monster". his gushing over sting was a bit homoerotic but it seemed more like a fetishisation of ubermensch poo poo than just some kind of gay incest lust or something
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SnowblindFatal posted:Seems like a good analysis. I wouldn't downplay Jodorowsky's analysis of society and individuals, though. He definitely has an unique approach to things. agreed. i didn't mean to downplay it, he's got some really interesting poo poo to say about people.
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Sep 12, 2016 02:05
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of all the poo poo lynch pulled from nowhere and put into this movie, the constant pugs are my favorite 
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Sep 12, 2016 02:17
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its got david bowie in it so i guess if you like "rocket man" david bowie its the flick 4 u
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Sep 12, 2016 02:21
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reallivedinosaur posted:its got david bowie in it so i guess if you like "rocket man" david bowie its the flick 4 u what? no, it has Sting.
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Sep 12, 2016 03:33
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:what? no, it has Sting. thats the character name the guy playing him is named "david bowie" he used to be in a band in the 70s, part of the whole "british invasion"
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Sep 12, 2016 03:34
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i really like the spicediver edit, it's amazing how a simple thing like section titles makes the length bearable
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Lovely Sting
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"But Sire we can't leave all that spice!" -David Lynch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puld_CMrgms
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spice is nice i like spice on rice nice spicey rice that looks like lice - david "sting" bowie
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Sep 12, 2016 16:36
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they totally copied the sandworm thing from beetlejuice though should try original ideas for once
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reallivedinosaur posted:they totally copied the sandworm thing from beetlejuice though the whole things is obv star wars
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sinking belle posted:Lovely Sting This is hilarious. And Princess Irulan was a fox and I'm sad that we don't live in an era where CAA maintains a creepy instagram account on her behalf.  I would observe her kanly.
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Sep 12, 2016 23:47
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Wormsign.
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Sep 12, 2016 23:50
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We have wormsign the like of which even God has never seen
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skasion posted:We have wormsign the like of which even God has never seen drat when big ed drops that line his voice makes my dingle tingle the way he enunciated GOD is a cream dream
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Gatekeeper posted:drat when big ed drops that line his voice makes my dingle tingle Hes so good quote:Muad'dib
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Stilgar's speech about the strength of the base of the pillar is in my top 5 movie moments of all time. Those wailing falsetto notes as he decides upon his true name.  That is some amazing casting, to find someone as immediately fatherly as Jurgen Prochnow.
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Sep 13, 2016 00:35
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The movie is a classic, in many ways.
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i dunno if it was any good they would have made a sequel remember "the black hole" that was a good movie, had some sassy robot in it iirc and a chick in tight pants
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