Blitz7x posted:

And Richard Seymour?

FizFashizzle posted:

It's well documented that he'd basically forget contract negotiations mid session, then agents would lie about how much he'd guaranteed them before a coughing attack or whatever interrupted it.

Blarfk posted:

*9-9 against

Oberst posted:

Trap sprung


7-3 (1-0 playoffs) since 2011 iirc

GonadTheBallbarian posted:

Migraines suck rear end and can be a moving target.

You can manage the things that might trigger them, but sometimes it's hard to know. But when that loving aura hits...

No Butt Stuff posted:

They are the goddamned worst. I had them every other day into my early teens. CAT scans, Imitrex prescriptions, diet alterations, staying the gently caress away from the smell of hot dogs and fresh cut grass, NONE OF IT HELPED.

gently caress migraines.

No Butt Stuff posted:

fresh cut

NC-17 posted:

I can't find anything "documented". What were you referring to?

quote:

Several years before his death Davis was on the phone negotiating a deal for a free agent. The sides were close to an agreement, but Davis suddenly began coughing badly, and his caretaker ended the call so Davis could take his prescription meds. When the sides resumed discussions later that day, Davis asked where they had left off. Taking advantage of the opportunity, the agent reminded Davis that they had agreed on the guaranteed money—but quoted a figure $1 million higher than what they had come to. Davis okayed the move and an agreement in principle was reached that night.

Ghost Dog posted:

hall of fame numbers if there ever were any

Benne posted:

Seattle Seahawks

Trigger warning: Tim Ruskell


1. S Earl Thomas (2010): Obvious No. 1 in this timeframe. The backbone of the LOB.
2. DE/LB Bruce Irvin (2012): Still think we overdrafted him, but he was a good pass rush specialist while here.
3. OT Russell Okung (2010): Never as good as we were hoping he'd be, but he was decent even with all the injuries and holding flags.
4. C Chris Spencer (2005): Pretty big dropoff here after the top three. Spencer was kinda meh but he started for several years before Max Unger eventually replaced him at center.
5. OL James Carpenter (2011): Another O-lineman who couldn't stay healthy, boy howdy we can't get enough of those.
6. DT Marcus Tubbs (2004): Could've been a great run-stuffer, but his knees betrayed him. Never trust Longhorn D-linemen.
7. DE Lawrence Jackson (2008): Who?
8. CB Kelly Jennings (2006):
9. LB Aaron Curry (2009):

WHOOPS posted:

Harvin's migraines not being real are a thing that popped up after Childress left and Harvin seemingly never had one again. He's said it they went away after being diagnosed with sleep apnea and getting a CPAP machine. I'm inclined to believe him due to my mom having long suffered from migraines and how my dad's QoL improved once he got a CPAP but the Twin Cities media went pretty hard with stories about Harvin exaggerating injuries once his time here was done. Especially when he missed his first Seattle training camp and only played in the games vs Minnesota and the Super Bowl that year.

riht posted:

Oberst posted:

Trap sprung


7-3 (1-0 playoffs) since 2011 iirc

Oberst posted:

Bring back the afcn thread

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Blarfk posted:

*steps out trap effortlessly due to it's poor conception and execution*

Kalli posted:

If you want to really be part of a dickwaving contest you gotta make graphics

Kalli posted:

If you want to really be part of a dickwaving contest you gotta make graphics

seiferguy posted:

He actually played the playoff game against the Saints!

... And he got a concussion in that game.

Pron on VHS posted:

Redoing the list. #1 is a tie because I don't know a single Chiefs fan who can pick which one of these two they'd take over the other

1. Derrick Johnson - best MLB in Chiefs history (who cares about 1960s football) tied with...
1. Tamba Hali - amazing pass rusher
2. Eric Berry - amazing, won't even have his career derailed by cancer
3. Dwayne Bowe - is kind of a punchline now, but he had quite a few good seasons with the Chiefs and is probably our franchise's best WR ever until Maclin accumulates some more stats
4. Dontari Poe - surprisingly turned into a beast despite a lot of fears he would bust
5. Branden Albert - Really good LT, especially at pass blocking. Had a few injury issues and took a bit to develop, but still real good.
6. Eric Fisher - Gets a lot of poo poo for being the #1 overall and not turning out great, but he has developed year over year and going into this season expectations are pretty high for him. A quality starter.
7. Glenn Dorsey - Kind of a bust? Projections for him coming out of LSU were sky high, he failed at a lot of stuff but became a good run defender at the least. A big, slow immovable anchor kind of DL.
8. Tyson Jackson - A more physically talented, worse Glenn Dorsey. Had disastrous rookie/2nd years, was showing mild signs of improvement before he left for Atlanta.
9. Jonathan Baldwin - The main outright bust on this list in the sense that he never started (Dorsey/Jackson at least started for 2-3 years, granted that was on a line with NO talent, but still, they played plays)

Oberst posted:

Bring back the afcn thread

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Power of Pecota posted:

I'd probably swap Bowe and Poe but outside of that I think this is dead-on. As great as Jamaal Charles is, Derrick Johnson's felt like the face of the franchise in the post-Tony Gonzalez years.

Chichevache posted:

You mean the game where you could see the entire saints defense teeing off on Percy Harvin's helmet till they finally knocked him out? That one still bugs me.

R.D. Mangles posted:

Accurate list

Lt. Chips posted:

First round picks. First round picks? This has been one of my biggest annoyances with the Bears over the last decade. Lets take a gander, shall we.

#1 - 2013(20) Kyle Long - By far the best pick of the bunch. Unfortunately, the dude is a guard. Having your best first round pick over a decade being at the least impactful position (not on special teams) is bad. Really bad.

#2 - 2004(14) Tommie Harris - Good for three years before falling off a cliff due to injury. The next interior Dlineman taken was Vince loving Wilfork.

#3 - 2007(31) Greg Olsen - Good player. Unfortunately, all of his production occurred with a different team because our offensive coaching staff was not aware that "Tight End" is actually a position that exists. So in all honestly, if we are actually measuring team impact, he should really be further down this list. Traded for peanuts because why have a player for a phony made up position.

#4 - 2005(4) Cedric Benson - Yikes. We're at number 4 and we have already reached the dregs. Thomas Jones was launched to hand the starting job to this idiot. The only memory I have of Cedric Benson having a good game was when he went off on the Bears as a member of the Bengals. Massive turd of a bust.

#5 - 2012(19) Shea McClellin - A 3-4 OLB drafted to be a 4-3 end. Then moved to linebacker because why the hell not. Has he been cut by the Pats yet?

#6 - 2011(29) Gabe Carimi - Olineman with back issues. Sucked and was cut. Went to the Bucs. Sucked and was cut. Went to the Falcons. Sucked and was cut. Probably getting fired from a Kinko's today.

#7 - 2008(14) Chris Williams - Olineman with back issues. Sucked and was cut. Indistinguishable from Carimi outside of the teams that cut him after the Bears.

And that's it. Seven picks over 10 years. The only one worth a first round pick is an over-drafted guard they probably could have grabbed in the second. Jerry Angelo and Phil Emery are both weird looking chodes that probably have weird looking kids that could have drafted better.


Edit:

Woe be upon he who forgets the immaculate Gabe Carimi.

DOOP posted:

E A G L E S EAGLES

2004 (16) Shawn Andrews - LT
2005 (31) Mike Patterson - DT
2006 (14) Broderick Bunkley - DT
2007 - No pick
2008 - No pick
2009 (19) Jeremy Maclin - WR
2010 (13) Brandon Graham - DE
2011 (21) Danny Watkins - OG
2012 (12) Fletcher Cox - DT
2013 (4) Lane Johnson - OT

Rankings

1) Big Cox - Absolute beast in the middle, maybe the best player on the team right now. A+ would draft again

2) Maclin - Good receiver, even after he blew out his knee. Should still be on the team, but the Chipster is a racist/Andy Reid illegally tampered with him. A

3) Johnson - good player when on the field but STOP TAKING STEROIDS YOU DUMB gently caress. A on talent, B- cause suspensions

4) Graham - Took a while, but he developed into a decent rotational pass rusher. Took over JPP (and some other DEs) who has more sacks, but Graham has more fingers. B-

T-5) Patterson
T-5) Bunkley

I dont really remember any difference between these two players. Couple decent years then washed out of the league. Whatever. C

7) Andrews - All world talent, but had some mental issues and couldn't play. I hope hes better now. D

8) Watkins - gently caress this guy, he sucked. F-

Kalli posted:

If you want to really be part of a dickwaving contest you gotta make graphics

Flikken posted:

Cleveland

1: 2007: (3) Joe Thomas OT HAS NOT MISSED AN OFFENSIVE SNAP IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER(8,959) , NINE PRO BOWLS, SIX 1ST TEAM ALL PRO's. Will be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

2: 2009: (21) Alex mack C He's good. Lost him to a lovely clause in his contract because the idiot front office used a lovely transition tag instead of a franchise tag. You loving morons

3: 2010: (7 )Joe Haden CB Also mostly good, lately has had nagging injuries but he is capable of being a very good DB

4: 2011: (21) Phil Taylor DT Decent but injured too much so we let him go. Has a great sense of humor and mocked a guy on twitter that was clearly uncomfortable about sitting next to a large black man on a plane.

5: 2005: (3) Braylon Edwards WR Had a great year in 07 then got traded for getting in a fist fight with LeBron James entourage at a club in Cleveland, did decent on the jets for a little while then bounced around other teams. No longer in league

6: 2006: (13 ) Kamerion Wimbley OLB Who??? (looks on Wikipedia) oh had a good rookie year then kind of fell off after that, we traded him to the Raiders and used the pick to draft Colt McCoy. Looks to have had a solid career

7: 2004 : (6) Kellen Winslow TE Often injured, wrecked motorcycle, helped make goon history because a goon stole the hedge that he wrecked into, had a decent year in 2007, masturbated in a parking lot looking for Boston Market and subsequently got wrecked by Boston Market's twitter account. No longer in league

8: 2013: (6) Barkevious Mingo DE/OLB Just traded him to the Patriots, had one decent year with us and watch him start being a contributor

9: 2014: (8) Justin Gilbert CB Where to begin, traded down instead of taking Sammy Watkins, then traded back UP for him. He's an OK KR, sucks in coverage and is currently resting as high as FOURTH on our DB depth chart, on a team with one of the worst pass defenses in the league.

10: 2012: (22) Brandon Weeden QB He's old, off the team in 2 years, is a back up on a Texas team now. Either Cowboys or Texans, who can remember???

11: 2012: (3) Trent Richardson RB he sucks, but we convinced the colts to give us another 1st for him soooooo, still a terrible pick.

12: 2007: (22 )Brady Quinn QB We traded up for this guy? Not a good QB, got dicked around in stupid QB controversy then released(or traded, honestly who cares or remembers?)

13: 2014: (22) Johnny Manziel QB Too much to write, you all know anyway, oh yeah traded up for him.




Edit: I threw in 2014 because I cannot NOT mention Manziel/Gilbert when talking about Browns first rounds.

Goetta posted:

Justin GIlbert should be down in Johnny Football territory in my opinion. At least Weeden and Richardson were sort of like replacement level productive for a season or two.

I forgot that he was a top 10 pick too yeesh

Cavauro posted:

AJ Green (2011)
Johnathan Joseph (2006)
Kevin Zeitler (2012)
Leon Hall (2007)
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Tyler Eifert (2013) - Hurt all the time, could be top two or lower than this based on what happens
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Andre Smith (2009)
Jermaine Gresham (2010)
Dre Kirkpatrick (2012)
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David Pollack (2005) - looked fine but never had a chance
Chris Perry (2004)
Keith Rivers (2008) - mediocre to below average all the time but loses to everyone for making hines ward feel like a badass