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Jermaine Gresham may not be their worst pick in terms of on field production but he is their worst pick in my heart, which is where it counts. E: And I mean honestly the dude's attitude was so bad (ALLEGEDLY) that the coaching staff basically wanted him gone because they thought he was milking injuries so he didn't have to play. Which is probably bullshit, yeah, but there's a reason dude's nickname was The Villain while he was here. Coulda been Dez....... Bismack Billabongo fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:the bears got outdrafted by the browns they have the worst first round drafting of any team this century. it's incredible.the raiders were worse than the browns until the last few years
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Brannock posted:Hall of Fame: If GB let Rodgers go in free agency in 2008, here are the best QBs drafted in 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 just because. 2008: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are drafted in the 1st Rd, but GB does not have any 1st Rd draft picks so waah waaah. Chad Henne is available in the second round, but GB picked Brian Bohme instead one pick before Henne went to the Dolphins.. 2009: Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez  are drafted before GB gets a pick. GB has not picked 1st at any time since the 1970 merger, so they don't get a chance at Stafford, who was good.2010: Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow are the gems of this draft. Bradford taken first so GB won't get him. 2011: Cam Newton leads the draft class of .... well Andy Dalton is good. Kaepernick had a great season and then not so much. Since GB has not had the #1 pick they do not get Newton (and Green Bay with old rear end Favre is better than the 1-15 Panthers with Clausen) So actually if Favre sticks around there's not much QB talent outside of the #1 pick and GB won't get that because Favre would gunsling it enough to sniff the playoffs instead of tanking for #1. At best they get Dalton or Kaepernick, neither of which are near Rodgers.
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Flikken posted:10: 2012: (22) Brandon Weeden QB He's old, off the team in 2 years, is a back up on a Texas team now. Either Cowboys or Texans, who can remember??? He actually was on both teams last season. Is the only starting QB in Texans history to win a game in Indy 
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Detroit_Dogg posted:2005 I legitimately did not believe this but holy poo poo: quote:was the backup quarterback to Jon Kitna, and was occasionally used in as the Y (slot receiver),[29] passing Corey Bradford and Mike Williams on the depth chart as the third wide receiver.
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Flikken posted:11: 2012: (3) Trent Richardson RB he sucks, but we convinced the colts to give us another 1st for him soooooo, still a terrible pick. Reminder that the pick we got for Trent turned into Manziel. The Browns' ability to waste everything is incredible.
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49ers 1. Patrick Willis (2007): One of the best ILBs in league history and all-around good dude 2. Joe Staley (2007): One of the better LTs in the league and also a good dude. 2007 was a good drafting year 3. Mike Iupati (2010): A run-blocking mauler and quickly became one of the better guards in the league 4. Aldon Smith (2011): A premier passrusher who is also a premier shithead 5. Eric Reid (2013): Please God protect this man's brain. One of my favorite players on the current team 6. Alex Smith (2005): I mean he's spent 11years in the league as a starting-level QB. That's got to account for something. Notably NOT Aaron Rodgers 7. Vernon Davis (2006): A stonehands pumpkin who became a great all-around TE and then reverted back into a pumpkin 8. Michael Crabtree (2009): A really good WR who could never play to expectations 9. Anthony Davis (2010): A decent RT who at times looked like a great RT. Was part of the mass exodus of starters last offseason but now back with the team 10. Manny Lawson (2006): Was a serviceable OLB on some real bad teams 11. Kentwan Balmer (2008): Wash 12. Rashaun Woods (2004): Got his rookie card as a gag gift in SAS Secret Santa a few years ago. Do not remember him outside of that 13. AJ Jenkins (2012): lol foh
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Adun posted:I legitimately did not believe this but holy poo poo: Mike Williams- Once got benched for Josh McCown.
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AsInHowe posted:Okay, now rank the Lions' 2nd-round picks Titus Young is legitimately near the top
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Atticus Finch posted:Let's rank fifth rounders next. Okay. For real NFL players: 1) 2003 - C Dan Koppen - Solidly good center for a decade. Can't ask for more from a 5th rounder. 2) 2008 - ST Matt Slater - 5x Pro bowl gunner. YEAHHHH SON 3) 2011 - T Marcus Cannon - He kinda sucks, but is an acceptable swing tackle who isn't a tire fire At least they could play in the league: 4) 2010 - P Zoltan Mesko - Was an average punter for like two years then had a lovely 3rd year and got cut. 5) 2005 - T Ryan O'Callahan - Was a backup who played sporadically for 2 years, then was a bad starter in KC for a year 6) 2011 - TE Lee Smith - Got cut, was a minus player for the Bills for 4 years. Couldn't play in the league: 2009 - T George Bussey 2007 - T Clint Oldenburg 2005 - LB Ryan Claridge 2004 - WR PK Sam Kalli fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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2004 Teddy Lehman-Bad. Got a lot of tackles and was a white guy from Oklahoma so there's a lot of his jerseys floating around out there. 2005 Shaun Cody- Awful. 2006 Daniel Bullocks-Terrible 2007 Drew Stanton-One of the best backups in the league. He's easily one of the best picks the Lions have made here, let that sink in. Ikaika Alama-Francis- Putrid. A project defensive end that Rod Marinelli was totally going to turn into a killer pass rusher guys, no really just give it another season. Gerald Alexander-Substandard safety who had to start as a rookie because the above Daniel Bullocks exploded. 2008 Jordan Dizon- Abysmal. I got his autograph on a roster for a former coach of mine and he still displays in his house because he was so hilariously bad. 2009 Louis Delmas- Lou Dawg was mega rad but also an idiot who prioritized big hits over anything resembling competent coverage. 2010 No Picks- By far the best decision the Lions made in this time period. 2011 Titus Young-....so good for a season, then went entirely loving insane. Still well into the top half of the picks the Lions have made. Mikel Leshoure- Fat and slow and not good. 2012 Ryan Broyles- 3 seasons, 32 catches, 2 touchdowns. Jesus Christ. 2013 Darius Slay- Owns.
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So if we actually rank them: Actual NFL Players Darius Slay A GIANT GAP Drew Stanton Louis Delmas One Good Season and Insanity Titus Young Bad But Not The Worst I guess Mikel Leshoure Absolute Garbage But Started And Never Should Have Teddy Lehman Daniel Bullocks Gerald Alexander Shaun Cody Couldn't Get Real Time With The Garbage rear end 2000s Detroit Lions Ikaika Alama-Francis Jordan Dizon Ryan Broyles Circle of Hell Ryan Broyles
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Don't forget Mikel Leshoure once got pulled over and tried to eat the weed he had on him before the cop got to his door.
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Atticus Finch posted:Let's rank fifth rounders next. Richard Sherman Kam Chancellor Everyone else's picks.
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I'll give it a shot. There's a lot of mediocre so the rankings are oddly difficult to come up with. #1: Cameron Jordan, DE (2011). Our best defensive player by far. A couple of well earned pro bowls in his relatively short career and multiple good seasons after a mediocre start in his rookie year. No JJ Watt but a really good pick in a position we needed. #2: Jammal Brown, OT (2005). Brown was a drat good tackle in his stay at New Orleans. The only reason we ever parted ways with him was his injury and Bushrod stepping up to be a solid replacement and cheaper. #3: Will Smith, DE (2004). A good player who played for a long time. Had an amazing breakout year in our Superbowl season -- which was amusingly not his one pro bowl appearance. It's possible I should have him higher than Jordan based on how long he was with the team but eh. Spent a lot of that time overpaying him for his 2009 performance which he could never capture. #4: Robert Meachem, WR (2007). This is where the quality starts thinning out and we're just at normal, good players. And that's what Meachem was for the Saints -- another in a list of solid wide outs for Brees. #5: Reggie Bush, RB (2006). Same deal as Meachem, really, though paid more for his services. A pretty good offensive piece who suffered from being amazingly overhyped and not knowing to run forward instead of sideways half the time. #6: Malcolm Jenkins, DB (2009). Jenkins was an average defensive back throughout his career. Played corner for a bit before moving to safety because he was too slow. Not a bust but didn't really live up to expectations. Would have a flashy play every year to get your hopes up that he might turn the corner but never did. #7: Mark Ingram, RB (2011, might as well be 2012). Ingram is a respectable running back. After being a running joke for a couple years after his debut (rightfully so, who the gently caress mortgages a first round pick next year to reach on a running back) he's become a fixture of the team's running game. I just wish he could learn to pass block better. If he'd been drafted in the third round I don't think anyone would mind what he brings to the team. #8: Kenny Vaccaro, SS (2013). The most recent addition, I still think it's a little early to judge him but he's been very inconsistent to bad since we drafted him. The bad Saints defense isn't all his fault, but he certainly hasn't helped much. #9: Sedrick Ellis, DT (2008). When we drafted Ellis everyone thought he was going to be the amazing anchor of an improving defense. He is only notable in how utterly unimpactful he was. #10: Patrick Robinson (2010). The only person on this entire list I cringe to think of. Was just awful every time he was on the field. One of the core pieces of/reasons for the Saints terrible defense in his brief time on the team. Honestly, not that bad, not that good. Like the classic Saints 7-9 season, really. Maybe next year the list will look better with Cooks on it if he has a crazy season like we pray he will. Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Shaun Cody was an above average NT in Houston and I looked him tremendously
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Chichevache posted:Richard Sherman that's just not fair
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aperion posted:that's just not fair 2013, 2014, and 2015 first round picks got us ___________
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Chichevache posted:2013, 2014, and 2015 first round picks got us more 5th round picks there you go
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Atticus Finch posted:Let's rank fifth rounders next. just cause this is fun for the ravens Good Nfl Starters/Rotation Players/Probable Hofers Till They Leave Baltimore 2006 Dawan Landry 2010 Arthur Jones 2011 Pernell Mcphee 2013 Ricky Wagner Borderline Nfl Players 2011 Chykie Brown 2012 Asa Jackson 2010 David Reed White Tight Ends 2006 Quinn Sypniewski idk these guys 2004 Roderick Green 2005 Justin Green 2009 Jason Phillips 2009 Davon Drew Should Be Starting Over Joe Flacco 2007 Troy Smith Ghost Dog fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Pernell McPhee loving owns and I miss him
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Atticus Finch posted:Let's rank fifth rounders next. 2004 LB Alex Lewis - serviceable special teamer IIRC 2005 QB Dan Orlovsky - Awful backup who has somehow returned to be our awful backup again 2006 OT Jonathan Scott - Who? 2007 LB Johnny Baldwin - Who? Also we traded five other 5th round selections this year and nine overall. 2008 WR Kenneth Moore - No memory of even this name 2008 FB Jerome Felton - was a fullback 2011 LB Doug Hogue - special teamer 2012 LB Tahir Whitehead - Actually great value. He was mostly on special teams at first but really stepped up when Stephen Tulloch died doing the Discount Double Check. He's still here. 2012 CB Chris Greenwood - Went to local D3 school Albion and was fast. Otherwise terrible. 2013 P Sam Martin - Usually decent but known for two horribly timed shanks including 10 YARD PUNT IN THE PLAYOFFS WHAT THE gently caress
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New York Jets - Re-doing this since mcmagic left out Sheldon and Keller and added Dewayne Robertson who was 2003. Wilkerson will likely pass Brick when all is said and done. Vilma had a good career but it was mostly after Mangini dumped him because of scheme fit. 2007 Darrelle Revis 2006 Nick Mangold 2006 D'Brickashaw Ferguson 2011 Muhammad Wilkerson 2013 Sheldon Richardson 2004 Jonathan Vilma 2008 Dustin Keller 2009 Mark Sanchez 2012 Quinton Coples 2010 Kyle Wilson 2013 Dee Milliner 2008 Vernon Gholston
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d'brickashaw still a top 5 nfl name ever
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Great White Hope posted:Reminder that the pick we got for Trent turned into Manziel. Ashes to ashes poo poo to poo poo
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Ravens fans putting anything but Matt Elam at the bottom of their list is seriously triggering. Sorry, but mark clayton cost way more games over two different coaching eras. Elam was bad then immediately buried after 1.5 seasons. 22 ovr vs 32 ovr etc etc And no, that one Bengals game in 08 was a collective hallucination Oberst fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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The only 5th rounder in Texans history to amount to anything is TJ "Bengals Killer" Yates I guess James Casey fleeced the Eagles for a lot of money too
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I don't recognize some of the Bengals fifth rounders. Marsh Pussy better get in here. gently caress TJ Yates.
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Atticus Finch posted:I don't recognize some of the Bengals fifth rounders. Marsh Pussy better get in here. What do you think of one AJ McCarron?
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2012 Ryan Tannehill - Print the shirts. 2011 Mike Pouncey - Great center, still with the team. A+ would draft again. 2008 Jake Long - One of the best LT's for about four years, then the injuries started. 2004 Vernon Carey - Weird career, but started at multiple positions for Miami from 2004-2011. 2005 Ronnie Brown - Good running back, never lived up to the hype, wildcat owned. 2010 Jared Odrick - Adequate DL starter. Left after rookie deal. 2009 Vontae Davis - Decent CB who we traded too soon. Developed into one of the better CB's in Indy. 2007 Ted Ginn, Jr. - We drafted the entire Ginn family. Dude is still bouncing around the league and one time he singlehandedly beat the Jets. 2006 Jason Allen - A bad CB. 2013 Dion Jordan - Probably the worst first rounder in franchise history. Has contributed nothing, got suspended, will probably be out of the league after this year.
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korrandark posted:What do you think of one AJ McCarron?
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Ozu posted:New York Jets - Re-doing this since mcmagic left out Sheldon and Keller and added Dewayne Robertson who was 2003. Wilkerson will likely pass Brick when all is said and done. Vilma had a good career but it was mostly after Mangini dumped him because of scheme fit. Dang you beat me to including Sheldon (great pick) but I forgot about Keller, which is surprising as he was Sanchez's favourite safety valve. I wasn't too happy when he went to Miami and the Jets went through a rough spot at TE after he left. This is probably fairly common across the league but the Jets have a pretty significant drop off in quality between their top 5-6 first-round picks and the rest. Darrelle through Sheldon are A++, Vilma was solid and Keller was a decent contributor. Things go off the cliff after that:
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Ehud posted:2012 Ryan Tannehill - Print the shirts. I pretty much agree, but Brown should be higher only because the debut of the wildcat against the Pats was the greatest thing ever and quickly debunked the mythos of Belichik.
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