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Prince John posted:If there was no health effects, I could be tempted. Used to love my hookah pipe when younger and am reminded of it every time someone vaping walks past. Double apple is tasty though. Vapes we have no idea of the health effects, only that the main bases (vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol) have been used in smoke/fog machines for decades without stage techs dying, but some of the flavorings (esp. butter/butterscotch) like diacetyl have been proven to be terrible for your lungs (it was first spotted in popcorn factory workers getting chronic lung disease) and should be avoided. There are some minor levels of combustion byproducts like formaldehyde, but they're about in line with eating a pear. Worries about organo-nickel salts forming on nickel coils are a potential concern, but they seem to only occur when you deliberately run the coil at red heat. I have no problem with a warning label on high power coils saying "jacking up the temperature to make huge clouds can kill" because it's going to end up true one way or another. e: 6 - Benzene is an aromatic ring of six carbon atoms and will give you cancer if you breathe enough of it. It's present in coal tar, most plant matter combustion materials, and used to be used in aftershave. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:J.K. Rowling has also been telling people that Corbyn is not Dumbledore, which is a bit of a relief since that means he's not an arsehole who puts kids on the frontline of a wizarding war. She also endorsed Jim Murphy by saying he'd be in Gryffindor. Nothing says well thought out, nuanced views on politics than by viewing it through the prism of your own fantasy books for children.
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Baron Corbyn posted:She also endorsed Jim Murphy by saying he'd be in Gryffindor. Nothing says well thought out, nuanced views on politics than by viewing it through the prism of your own fantasy books for children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yszh_KxeUWU
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Yeah but people dont get Harry Potter they think Snape was a hero even though until the girl he creeped on was getting killed he was fully in with Voldemort and probably supported the killing of muggle borns.
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Guavanaut posted:e: 6 - Benzene is an aromatic ring of six carbon atoms and will give you cancer if you breathe enough of it. It's present in coal tar, most plant matter combustion materials, and used to be used in aftershave. Benzene is also one of the few molecules I can remember how to draw from the many moons ago when I studied Chemistry at HIgher. Isn't it a Hexagon with a circle inside it? Or a hexagon with a line round every second edge to represent the double bonds? Oh the joys of the hydrocarbons.
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Isn't nicotine really bad for you either way you just don't get the inhaling smoke from vaping? My phone tried to autocorrect that to camping
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Jose posted:Isn't nicotine really bad for you either way you just don't get the inhaling smoke from vaping? My phone tried to autocorrect that to camping Its not good for you at all but is far from the worst thing in fags.
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forkboy84 posted:Benzene is also one of the few molecules I can remember how to draw from the many moons ago when I studied Chemistry at HIgher. Isn't it a Hexagon with a circle inside it? Or a hexagon with a line round every second edge to represent the double bonds? Yep! You get a gold star and a A grade.
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StoneOfShame posted:Its not good for you at all but is far from the worst thing in fags. That just prompted me to look it up quote:The estimated lower limit of a lethal dose of nicotine has been reported as between 500 and 1000 mg.[7] Children may become ill following ingestion of one cigarette;[8] ingestion of more than this may cause a child to become severely ill.[5][9] The nicotine in the e-liquid of an electronic cigarette can be hazardous to infants and children, through accidental ingestion or skin contact.[10] In some cases children have become poisoned by topical medicinal creams which contain nicotine.[11] Edit: quote:Smoking excessive amounts of tobacco has also led to poisoning; a case was reported where two brothers smoked 17 and 18 pipes of tobacco in succession and were both fatally poisoned.[2]
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Those brothers are idiots. Edit: Were idiots.
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forkboy84 posted:Benzene is also one of the few molecules I can remember how to draw from the many moons ago when I studied Chemistry at HIgher. Isn't it a Hexagon with a circle inside it? Or a hexagon with a line round every second edge to represent the double bonds?
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Guavanaut posted:The kids all vape now. Hey now with the lovely construction, lovely batteries and lovely chargers you get with lovely vapes you can still burn poo poo down with them by accident. Usually just your pockets though.
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Baron Corbyn posted:She also endorsed Jim Murphy by saying he'd be in Gryffindor. Nothing says well thought out, nuanced views on politics than by viewing it through the prism of your own fantasy books for children. I'm more concerned that the most egregious case of "gently caress you got mine" in history is coming from a woman with millions of devoted fans.
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Jose posted:Isn't nicotine really bad for you either way you just don't get the inhaling smoke from vaping? My phone tried to autocorrect that to camping really bad for your cardiovascular system, insanely addictive. not tar though
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah, either the hexagon with alternating lines (Kekule) or with a circle in the middle (the other guy) are accepted ways to draw it, as long as you're consistent. In reality it's a hexagon with a ring shaped cloud of electrons (or electron probabilities if we're going quantum) above and below it, which is somewhere between a single and double bond in strength. It's unusual stability as a functional group makes it a cornerstone of a large amount of org and biochem, and it's ability to nestle in DNA and cause chromosome breaks makes it a dick. Chemistry is fun. I wish I remembered more of it. Instead it's just a line on my CV that really has no relevance at this point. Though there was always a disappointing lack of things going boom, at least acids were always fun to play with.
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CoolCab posted:really bad for your cardiovascular system, insanely addictive. not tar though There's a question. Is vaping less addictive due to the lack of "ignition agents" or whatever they called the pro-nicotine agents in the 80s before the big seven dwarves perjury thing?
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Jedit posted:I'm more concerned that the most egregious case of "gently caress you got mine" in history is coming from a woman with millions of devoted fans. Surprised you're not defending Rowling to the death based on her consistent dislike of the SNP and her use of Twitter and her fans to campaign against them.
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OK, this really is amazing.quote:Owen Smith says the "worst Health Secretary in history" Jeremy Hunt must be "sacked immediately" - and has claimed it's Jeremy Corbyn 's fault he still has a job. After a vote of no confidence worked so well last time, Smith proposes it as a way to force out Hunt. Also manages to blame Corbyn, who has campaigned with the doctors and called for Hunt to be sacked in Parliament, while conveniently forgetting that he himself did loving nothing while he was Shadow Health Secretary. Does he really think people are that stupid to not notice? Scikar fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Scikar posted:Also manages to blame Corbyn, who has campaigned with the doctors and called for Hunt to be sacked in Parliament, while conveniently forgetting that he himself did loving nothing while he was Shadow Health Secretary. Does he really think people are that stupid to not notice? 
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At some point Owen Smith is just going to pull his pants down, take a huge steaming dump on stage and then say that Corbyn did it and He Is Bad
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Scikar posted:OK, this really is amazing. It's like a they're under a curse. Everyone that dislikes Corbyn is unable to articulate why they don't like him and why he is not fit for the job. So instead they just say "he bad". Some of them can manage an illogical sentence about how "that's all very good but it's not going to help them WIN".
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Jamimancy.
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forkboy84 posted:Chemistry is fun. I wish I remembered more of it. Instead it's just a line on my CV that really has no relevance at this point. Though there was always a disappointing lack of things going boom, at least acids were always fun to play with. This might be your jam http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/category/things-i-wont-work-with
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StoneOfShame posted:Yeah but people dont get Harry Potter they think Snape was a hero even though until the girl he creeped on was getting killed he was fully in with Voldemort and probably supported the killing of muggle borns. In the terrible new play, they go to great lengths to show that Snape, despite what you mentioned, is supposed to be a heroic character. They end up in an alternate timeline where Snape's alive and one of the characters explains to Snape everything that he obviously already knows about being a plant for Dumbledore and tells him what a hero he is for doing so.
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Guavanaut posted:And who made the mistake of appointing someone like Smith to the shadow cabinet? Checkmate, Corbynalures I'm not especially fond of the fable of the farmer and the viper (or the scorpion and the frog), but this would seem to be a perfect example of it.
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Baron Corbyn posted:In the terrible new play, they go to great lengths to show that Snape, despite what you mentioned, is supposed to be a heroic character. They end up in an alternate timeline where Snape's alive and one of the characters explains to Snape everything that he obviously already knows about being a plant for Dumbledore and tells him what a hero he is for doing so. Wow that's bad. I stand by my assertion that the original books are Okay For Kids But Ultimately Not Great, and have long since been surpassed by various fanfictions in terms of fun and coherent plots that aren't dumb. Those derivative works wouldn't exist without Rowling though, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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JK Rowling has one of the biggest cult of personalities in the UK today and yet it's Jezza and his supporters who are the problem
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Renaissance Robot posted:Wow that's bad. I stand by my assertion that the original books are Okay For Kids But Ultimately Not Great, and have long since been surpassed by various fanfictions in terms of fun and coherent plots that aren't dumb. Those derivative works wouldn't exist without Rowling though, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What about the one fanfiction called something like Harry Potter and the Methods of Rational Autism which takes all the fun out of the magical world
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So the BMA have announced three more 5 days strikes, one a month from now until the end of the year. These are full walk-outs, so they represent a pretty big escalation. Essentially NHS elective work, meaning routine operations and clinic appointments, are going to be reduced by a quarter for the rest of the year.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What about the one fanfiction called something like Harry Potter and the Methods of Rational Autism which takes all the fun out of the magical world That's even dumber but I appreciate its existence because it is unintentionally hilarious.
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Spangly A posted:There's a question. Is vaping less addictive due to the lack of "ignition agents" or whatever they called the pro-nicotine agents in the 80s before the big seven dwarves perjury thing? dunno, i would blind guess you're getting a lot more nicotine in a vape then with conventional tabacco, but that's not backed by me knowing anything, just the fact that vapers seem to exhale literal nicotine tornados
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Renaissance Robot posted:That's even dumber but I appreciate its existence because it is unintentionally hilarious. You'll be surprised to discover the guy who made that thing is a nutcase
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WeAreTheRomans posted:What about the one fanfiction called something like Harry Potter and the Methods of Rational Autism which takes all the fun out of the magical world It did result in this fanfiction fanfiction though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXARrMadTKk
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jabby posted:So the BMA have announced three more 5 days strikes, one a month from now until the end of the year. Yeah I saw this on a news headline yesterday (you posted the original "we're doing this" statement a few weeks ago though right?) and the BONG trailer was pretty much just Jeremy Hunt's statement saying this is bad and wrong and they're hurting the NHS. Then for the actual story they repeated it again Obviously it's Jeremy Corbyn's fault that the news is confident enough to present the story from Jeremy Hunt's point of view. If Labour were a more effective opposition this wouldn't be happening
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So, in the last year and a half the ceiling in our shared house's front room has collapsed twice due to flooding from the shower above as well as having the electrics blow and need to be re-wired twice. In the last week I'd heard scratching for the last week but assumed it was mice, and last night it sounded like something was rearranging the crap up my sink (mostly plastic bags, bin liners, kitchen roll and the like) so you can imagine my surprise when I got in from work to see a loving rat leaping off the lip of my bin to scurry away. Basically, at which point can I tell the lettings agency to go gently caress themselves with regards to rent and fix this poo poo?
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Scikar posted:OK, this really is amazing. Its not actually that horrible and idea to get a minister sacked  . The UK has no established custom about motions of no confidence in individual ministers but other countries have em (Ireland and the Netherlands for example) and its not necessarily a bad way to try to force out a minister if the rest of his party will not go to the mat to keep him in (and was proposed by petition like last year for Hunt as well if I'm remembering right?)It may have no customary standing but the opposition trying to expand their toolkit for challenging the government is not a bad thing and I don't think anyone is arguing if someone formally loses the confidence of parliament it can just be ignored.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah I saw this on a news headline yesterday (you posted the original "we're doing this" statement a few weeks ago though right?) and the BONG trailer was pretty much just Jeremy Hunt's statement saying this is bad and wrong and they're hurting the NHS. Then for the actual story they repeated it again Yesterday they announced a single 5 day strike in September, in the last hour they announced three more in October, November and December.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah I saw this on a news headline yesterday (you posted the original "we're doing this" statement a few weeks ago though right?) and the BONG trailer was pretty much just Jeremy Hunt's statement saying this is bad and wrong and they're hurting the NHS. Then for the actual story they repeated it again There was a BBC news article about it today too. I could only skim but from the looks of it it was trying to "explain" the conflict by just pointing out that junior drs are apparently miffed only about the scale of pay, with little or no mention of the staffing issues.
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kustomkarkommando posted:I don't think anyone is arguing if someone formally loses the confidence of parliament it can just be ignored. Apart from Jeremy Corbyn *ducks* ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:So, in the last year and a half the ceiling in our shared house's front room has collapsed twice due to flooding from the shower above as well as having the electrics blow and need to be re-wired twice. In the last week I'd heard scratching for the last week but assumed it was mice, and last night it sounded like something was rearranging the crap up my sink (mostly plastic bags, bin liners, kitchen roll and the like) so you can imagine my surprise when I got in from work to see a loving rat leaping off the lip of my bin to scurry away. Basically, at which point can I tell the lettings agency to go gently caress themselves with regards to rent and fix this poo poo? From your post, it looks like the lettings agency has actually fixed the ceiling twice and re-wired the electrics twice (aka, they've actually upheld their obligations for repairs). You're probably on shaky ground for withholding rent if that's the case, although if they refuse to send out the pest control for your rat problem then that could eventually be grounds for holding it back.
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Oberleutnant posted:There was a BBC news article about it today too. I could only skim but from the looks of it it was trying to "explain" the conflict by just pointing out that junior drs are apparently miffed only about the scale of pay, with little or no mention of the staffing issues. The BBC article didn't even mention the JDs point of view until the last couple of paragraphs, and basically ignored the serious safety, understaffing, underfunding concerns. To nobody's surprise.
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