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Finally tonight, here's more bridge nonsense. WAS IT AN “ACCIDENT?” Lara Logan Intel Sources Claim Baltimore Bridge Collapse On “Second busiest strategic roadway for hazardous materials” Was “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” posted by freeper ransomnote
quote:To: nwrep
quote:Oh here we go with the conspiracy theories.
until it’s proven true.
Took out the Concrete support. Of all the places to hit, it had to hit there. Pretty big water area, and it hits that?
Occam’s Razor is always sharp.
FWIW - hope that boat had insurance. If you did that with your car, you’d be on the hook big time.
8 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:12:55 AM by Macoozie (Roll MAGA, roll!)
quote:To: ransomnote
These ships are crewed by whatever international crew will work for the least amount of money. It is not surprising that some are incompetent or that others are saboteurs or terrorists.
15 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:17:16 AM by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
quote:To: ransomnote
I lean towards the DEI and incompetence. While it would be a brilliant strategic attack scenario, so far nothing points to that having been the case.
20 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:19:35 AM by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
So uh how exactly do we derive this specific message?
quote:To: ransomnote
It. Was. A. Warning.
Probably a China operation to tell RINOs that Biden (then Kamela in 2028, Chelsea Kringtong in 2032, etc) WILL win no matter what and they should keep their mouths shut.
30 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:25:41 AM by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
Someone talks about a temporary floating bridge, which ignores the whole seaport aspect of things and is thus unworkable
quote:To: Vendome
quote:..They can build these temporarily. Like D-Day...
Great pic of a bygone era....
Back then, we had men that were men, and women that were women.
Woke was a crying baby in the middle of the night.
And DEI (didn’t earn it) was what was left over inside a used condom.
Today?....well, not so much..... /s
35 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:29:20 AM by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
Back in 2001 my boss' personal colo dedicated server was broken into and his website defaced with the text HACKED BY CHINESE and that's all I can think about here
quote:To: Vermont Lt
What shut down the power on this thing? Why did the lights go out moments before it hit the bridge?
We know that water systems have been hacked by Chinese and Iranian hackers in western Pennsylvania. They were shut down and DHS came into the investigation.
The FBI is warning about attacks on the infrastructure. Why is this so quickly being dismissed as an accident?
38 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:30:43 AM by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
Ooooh, and a double gently caress YOU to you!
quote:To: Dr. Franklin
The six construction workers working on the bridge who were lost in the river were all foreign nationals, probably illegals. Can imagine the quality of their “repairs”.
42 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:37:43 AM by EinNYC
(The ship crew were Indian nationals)
quote:To: ransomnote
Possible Hindi who loves the anti-western Hindustanian media - might be a source of trouble (and is pro-Russian). But unknown in online info, for the moment.
The Dali with a tall stack of empty containers, rides high on the water and is a giant sailing ship.
43 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:39:03 AM by linMcHlp
How do you even get there from here?
quote:To: Dr. Franklin
Whether by incompetence of crew, the management, cheap parts or cunning saboteurs, this shocking disaster shows us one thing: the philosophical base of our country upon which Capitalism flourished has been dismantled without a shot being fired. (see tagline + the philosophy department at any university)
48 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:43:07 AM by The Westerner ("Communists no longer must hide the plan to destroy American Capitalism," says BHO)
quote:To: ransomnote
Riiiiggghhhhttttt. And they knew EXACTLY how the ship would travel. A more plausible theory is God has had enough of the American BS, and is raining down judgments quicker than we can absorb them.
55 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:48:43 AM by Salvavida
quote:To: Macoozie
“until it’s proven true.”
Those that are poo-pooing any theories of sabotage are, for some reason, assuming that none of the unusual events that have occurred thus far were deliberately caused. Multiple train derailments, food processing facility fires (and other wildfires deliberately set), and now this. They also ignore the fact that we have millions of foreign operatives and hostile-nation terrorists running around freely in America now. It makes one wonder what their motivation in mocking the sabotage debate is. I can already guess. Sure, accidents happen. But this many? This often?
A cyber attack causing this latest ‘event’ is quite possible, and even probable. I don’t believe in coincidences any more. Not in this new reality we’re dealing with.
59 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:50:30 AM by Danie_2023
A great summary about why freep is beyond redemption.
quote:To: Wuli; ransomnote
There are no such things as conspiracy theories anymore.
Everything from a completely unforeseen mechanical failure that could not be avoided to a meticulously planned out terrorist attack is in play until the actual FACTS come out.
And I don’t even trust “facts” anymore when they come from governmental sources.
And the government and the media did this to themselves. I didn’t do it, and posters on this forum didn’t do it.
The government and media, through their lies, collaboration, and collusion have accomplished this destruction of any public trust in anything at all.
Normal people who don’t think like sheep (and we have a lot of sheep-like thinkers here, even on this ostensibly conservative forum) will make judgements in their own self-interest, which in today’s world, is a rational response to this corruption.
65 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:57:13 AM by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
With original punctuation and spacing
quote:To: nwrep
WAS IT AN “ACCIDENT?”
\%
i thought so...
..until minutes later
media / obiden admin said
’ not terrorist attack “.
then when i see all the usual narrative control cubicle doughnut munching debunkers like you show up
i became even more suspicious
72 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:10:55 AM by cuz1961 (officially useless /-))
Look at the brains curious mind on this guy.
quote:To: nwrep
quote:Oh here we go with the conspiracy theories.
A curious mind is the bane of the CIA. They call those with curious minds conspiracy theorist. They don’t want you curious, they want you dumbed down to believe whatever they they tell you to believe. Preserve your curiosity at all cost.
77 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:13:53 AM by iontheball
quote:To: Danie_2023
Remember the Ohio sheriff who recently had a presser about the briefing he and other sheriffs received from Christopher Wray. He said that for every cyber security expert we employ here the ChiComs have thousands of hackers, doing it full time. He also said that those hackers do it full time, not just as a hobby, and not for fun. Another expert on China said there are upwards of 150,000 Chinese nationals now in the country whose mission is to.... kill us.
81 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:18:39 AM by cld51860 ("This business will get out of control...")
quote:To: cld51860
quote:Another expert on China said there are upwards of 150,000 Chinese nationals now in the country whose mission is to.... kill us.
Oh yeah. And those that are here to kill us... are just waiting for “the signal” (timing is everything).
I’m just amazed by all of the “nothing to see here, move along” posters here that choose to ignore what we’re dealing with and facing. Perhaps some of those Chi nationals are on the forum posting and pretending to be righties.... while attempting to direct the discussion away from reality. Then again, our own DS cretins are no doubt doing the exact same thing.
88 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:31:53 AM by Danie_2023
This was a very long post that analyzes the failure and is mostly factual and correct. But then,
quote:To: GOPJ
[snip]
OH NO! - Looking at International Maritime Pilots Association.
They have a manual: DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION (D&I) GUIDANCE FOR PILOTAGE - PDF file.
101 posted on 3/27/2024, 11:27:09 AM by linMcHlp
quote:To: ransomnote
With all we’ve seen in the last few years, anyone who uses the term “conspiracy theory” un-ironically is a drat fool.
114 posted on 3/27/2024, 12:07:08 PM by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
They keep banging the DEI drum
quote:To: rlmorel
Karenthia A. Barber Appointed First Black Woman To Serve As Maryland Port Commissioner - August 8, 2023
She is the Founder and CEO of Professional Development Associates, LLC, a consulting firm that provides leadership and workforce training, coaching, and human resources consulting services.
Additionally, the firm conducts diversity, equity, and inclusion audits and consulting, which highlights Ms. Barber's commitment to promoting diversity and inclusion in the workplace.
128 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:38:29 PM by linMcHlp
The various threads are full of people analyzing the videos and, when not deep inside the conspiracy hole, coming to the same conclusions and listening to people with experience saying that putting one of these giants into full reverse can cause an unexpected turn, and yet,
quote:To: ransomnote
Watch the 8x speed video and tell me that ship didn’t turn 90 degrees right into that bridge support.
Here it is happening right on video for all the world to see and you people are calling it a conspiracy theory.
136 posted on 3/27/2024, 3:39:45 PM by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
The last post in the thread is this crosspost from...the Q thread.
quote:In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 03/16/2024 Vol.489, Q Day 2331, OldWarBaby wrote:
Lots of folks paying attention to the FSKB fail. Fortunately my new supply of tinfoil just got here. My new hat has a quartz beanie on top so I’m connected to the entire galaxy.
But listen up:
Adding Mitch’s SIL and her shipping ownership to the mix is way doubling down on coinkidinkies.
Night before last when the Cali hit the FSKB was full moon. Never mind that un-docking in the middle of the night, in the dark, is a bit non-standard by itself.
As chance would have it I woke up long enough, about midnight, to do a rollover and noted the FULL MOON about 1:00 high. My bedroom window faces West so I get a good look at the moonset. The Cali hit the FSKB about 1:30 AM which would have also been right at max high tide.
A local fisherman notes that channel is dredged to 60 feet. So most of the river water goes down that channel making deader water and way more mud near the bridge pilings. It was noted early on that the Cali left its tugs behind even tho it had to clear the FSKB and one more bridge before it got to open water.
The only rational for no tugs, besides cheapness anyway, is that with a 60 foot channel and a 40 foot draft no one believed a large ship could get out of the channel and into the 30 foot water to ever hit the bridge abutments?
But this ship never got itself aligned into the proper channel from the time it un-docked, according to the published path it took. From the time it lit its engine it was pointed more to the bridge than to the channel.
The main engines on these big heavy haulers are a bit different than one might expect on a more versatile ship.
They have one bigass diesel engine, 8 or more cylinders and pack 40,000 horsepower or more. The main engine does nothing except drive the ship. Electric and hydraulic power come from auxiliary engines. It’s all about cheapness.
The main engine is hard -coupled to the prop shaft which is firmly bolted to the prop. No cluth, no disconnect. If the main engine is running the prop is turning so they do not start the engine when dockside. Their little buddy tugs move them away and line them up with the channel. To reverse the ship the main engine is shut down, then re-started in the opposite rotation. That explains the puff of black smoke the Cali kicked out when heading for the bridge. It also explains that they had a serious problem before the smoke and should have shut down.
Everyone has noted the ship had been doing 8 knots, which is a bit fast for channel chasing, but had slowed to 1.5 knots before hitting the bridge. The reason the ship slowed is because it was pushing mud already, out of the main channel. But for high tide, I don’t believe it could have gotten out of the channel.
When you see the pics from later in the day, low tide, you can see the stern is out of the water at least 10 feet. It’s plainly sitting on mud that is probly only 30 feet deep.
And Mumbles was way too quick on the draw with that pledge of Fedmoney.
There’s more but I’m going with sabotage,conspiracy, sedition etc. and I’m also wanting to round up everybody associated with that ship, waterboard their axxes, rubber hose them, find out who paid them, round up their mothers and find out why they birthed such a bunch of dumbasses?
143 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:36:28 PM by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
Next thread, Maryland governor calls for ‘full accountability’ in bridge collapse posted by freeper ChicagoConservative27
That's... not the way this is going to work. Come on.
quote:To: ChicagoConservative27
We won’t ever know because FedGov is picking up the tab.
Insurance won’t have to do an independent investigation to determine the cause.
Isn’t that convenient?
6 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:58:37 AM by packagingguy
This freeper gets it! (Then read the tagline.)
quote:To: ChicagoConservative27
Maintenance and Quality aren't sexy enough to receive the funding necessary to sustain safe operations.
Politicians and CEOs like new shiny objects for the next election or quarterly report.
The problem is everywhere; Airlines and Operations, Rail Systems, Shipping Fleets, Military Hardware and facilities, Roads and Bridges, etc...
7 posted on 3/27/2024, 9:58:50 AM by G Larry (It's RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing ILLEGAL Laborers)
quote:To: ChicagoConservative27
Full accountability from a ‘Rat city government? I won’t hold my breath.
We’re finally allowed to know JFK was shot in the head three times from three different directions and the government has been hiding that fact for 60 plus years.
That kind of accountability?
When will the public get the truth about the stolen 2020 election?
The government lies about everything..
14 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:02:40 AM by enumerated (81 million votes my rear end)
quote:To: Socon-Econ
impartial investigation???
Like the J6 committee?
22 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:07:50 AM by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
quote:To: Professional Engineer
You could be almost certain. There will be some kind of fake narrative in which Trump cut some useless program, that will be spun to read that if only he had not cut that program, this tragedy would’ve been averted. It might take a little time, but it is coming.
And, of course, the media propagandists will accept it without question.
26 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:10:31 AM by The_Media_never_lie ( )
Oh lordy
quote:To: ChicagoConservative27
I just heard the claim that the ship Captain, is Ukrainian. Anyone else here that claim?
43 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:41:23 AM by Robert DeLong
D! E! I!
quote:To: ChicagoConservative27
From reports earlier- it was a DEI Build Mayor- so do you still want a ‘full accountability’? Or will that fact be buried and ‘white supremacist’ Bridge Engineers be blamed?
45 posted on 3/27/2024, 10:48:04 AM by Bob434
quote:To: Red Badger
That bridge went down to fast and to complete if you ask me. Love when rats demand full investigation until the truth comes out and it isn’t in their narrative
86 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:12:24 PM by ronnie raygun
Perhaps we're about to get some facts? Who am I kidding, here's Dali cargo ship suffered 'severe electrical problem' while docked in Baltimore days prior to bridge collapse crash that saw it suffer 'total power failure, loss of engine failure', port worker says posted by freeper rxsid
the article posted: Julie Mitchell, co-administrator of Container Royalty, a company which tracks cargo, told CNN the ship was anchored at the port for at least 48 hours prior to the deadly crash.
'And those two days, they were having serious power outages… they had a severe electrical problem,' Mitchell told the broadcaster. 'It was total power failure, loss of engine power, everything.'
Mitchell explained that refrigerated boxes tripped breakers on board the ship on several occasions, and mechanics had been trying to fix the issue. She said she didn't know whether the problem had been fixed when the ship set off.
(They dropped anchor.)
quote:To: rxsid
Obviously, another CIA backed hit job, they never dropped anchor.
2 posted on 3/27/2024, 12:56:50 PM by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
quote:To: rxsid
Watch the video in this article. The ship turned into the bridge. This is a Terrorist attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Terrorist Attack in Baltimore
By Cliff Kincaid|March 27th, 2024
hxxps://newswithviews.com/terrorist-attack-in-baltimore/
10 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:05:28 PM by afchief
quote:To: rxsid
quote:Dali cargo ship suffered ‘severe electrical problem’ while docked in Baltimore days prior to bridge collapse crash
Just confirming, a trial run.
16 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:11:23 PM by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense)
quote:To: rxsid
[I'm the captain now dot jpeg snipped]
Can we eliminate DEI as the cause?
31 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:30:57 PM by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
quote:To: JSM_Liberty
quote:Owners skimping on maintenance.
The simplest explanation, absent other evidence, yes. But pretty much everybody around here is a committed conspiracy-theory nutjob nowadays. It's why self-described "conservatives" can't never seem to have nice things. They live in fantasy world of their own.
36 posted on 3/27/2024, 1:42:24 PM by DSH
lol qanon was some dipshit posting on 4chan, but yeah go ahead, blame the CIA
quote:To: DSH
Bingo. Qanon was just a CIA mind f&&^%$. It’s still working.
103 posted on 3/27/2024, 3:50:15 PM by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
Oh yeah here we go
quote:To: rxsid
It could be called racist ti call it an undocumented mechanic verification job sccording to our new overlords of woke world. Documentation is just something that people who believe in law/order follow. In our new Woke Amerixa its anything goes. And if some mechanic verification doesn’t get their job done then yeah we’ll have bridges collapse and Hispanic family men killed. But the champions of undocumented things will keep on getting more wokr and turning America more chaotic.
124 posted on 3/27/2024, 5:03:36 PM by Degaston
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