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Cnut the Great posted:I don't get this notion of games not aging well. I think if it was ever a good game, it's still going to be a good game however many years later. The games were a lot simpler back then, but that's okay, since the games were designed around that fact and compensated in other ways, like creative level design and increased difficulty level. I've still never beaten the original Super Mario Bros. (can only get to the castle on World 7 so far) because I'm not very good at it and refuse to use save states, but I still like playing it. I agree with the idea that quality is fundamentally timeless. The disconnect is that when people say "such-and-such didn't age well" what they're usually saying is "such-and-such is a poo poo game that we only put up with because we were like 8 years old and surrounded by lovely games and we didn't know any better."
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Three-Phase posted:Why did some games with graphically intense areas suffer from bad slowdown (Jackal, Iron Tank) while others did not (Super Mario 3)? Was it programming, cartridge hardware, or a little of both? Hell yeah! Iron Tank kicks rear end.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O49OgQ_kogw
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Sep 18, 2016 21:33
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I have this garbage.
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:Oh my god, these are hilarious. And I found the one you're talking about. Vinesauce has some genuinely funny videos. The SNES ones are crazy too. Also has anyone mentioned Mr. Gimmick yet? That is supposedly the most technically advanced NES game that was developed just as the NES came to an end. http://youtu.be/O71__ki3rYw There are also some great YouTube videos on the Dendy- the Russian NES.
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Ronnie posted:Hi it's me Nintendo and I heard you want us to publish your game on our Nintendo Entertainment System? I'm not sure about the IP thing. In fact I am almost positive that is wrong. Everything else is totally true though.
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RestingB1tchFace posted:Hell yeah! Iron Tank kicks rear end. I'm amazed it didn't give people seizures when you have the mega explosions that flash the screen white for like five seconds.
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Three-Phase posted:That last bit did. Not. Happen. The Game Counselor accomplishments were always bullshit. To this day, I remember one dude claiming that he beat Ninja Gaiden II "without looking at the screen." Absolutely mental.
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A Fancy Bloke posted:I'm not sure about the IP thing. In fact I am almost positive that is wrong. Yeah. Bretty sure capcom owns the mega man games.
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Germstore posted:Yeah. Bretty sure capcom owns the mega man games. i will fight ur copyright battle on TW when i have amends
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Gabriel Pope posted:I agree with the idea that quality is fundamentally timeless. The disconnect is that when people say "such-and-such didn't age well" what they're usually saying is "such-and-such is a poo poo game that we only put up with because we were like 8 years old and surrounded by lovely games and we didn't know any better." Games were literally just better up until around the GameCube era. I mean the games were still good from time to time but things just slowly started changing for the worse. I like to think that games reached their peak around the 64 and PlayStation since games were doing way more than they ever could but without having to sacrifice quality, features, or just content in general. Now, I know some old heads don't care much for this time either because poo poo started getting easier, but I think that at the time that trend was okay because the arcade style difficulty that said "do it over from the start" wasn't always that fun and mainly just a way to make the game last longer Take Zelda example. You can get through the entirety of Ocarina of Time without dying once if you play your cards right, but Link to the Past is a much more brutal game- fairies don't refill your health completely, you start from somewhere in the overworld if you quit the game in a dungeon, and the bosses are also pretty unforgiving. But in terms of content, graphics, gameplay, both games are extremely solid and fun. Then you have Wind Waker... Which was kinda good, I guess. Also, more on the thread topic: the first two Zelda games were great too, just subjected to that painful NES level of difficulty. I guess what I'm saying is that all of these games were great up until Wind Waker where Zelda became just okay, and although some might point to a lack of difficulty as the start of decline (or that comment about games not aging well comes into play), I would argue that it's simply not the case. /sperg Starman Super DX fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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The NES version of Bionic Commando was an amazing game that took the platform genre and added one twist that changed the whole formula. Plus it had non-linear gameplay, including levels you could skip entirely and an end boss that was literally Hitler in a robot. It's sad how lovely and awful they made the remake "Bionic Commando: Rearmed"
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Bionic Commando owned when I was a kid and continues to own now, and for someone with terrible reflexes I am amazed that I have never missed that shot at the end
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Xanei.exe posted:After the NES era, this was replaced by the obligatory Mine Cart level. That is a subject for another thread, however you should try Indiana Jones NES. the game is basically one big sewer/minecart level https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLqHhTG7XEY
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ZDar Fan posted:The Game Counselor accomplishments were always bullshit. To this day, I remember one dude claiming that he beat Ninja Gaiden II "without looking at the screen." Absolutely mental. While I'm sure those stories were all made up, people these days can beat Mike Tyson's punchout while blindfolded. Youtube it it's pretty impressive
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Bug Bill Murray posted:While I'm sure those stories were all made up, people these days can beat Mike Tyson's punchout while blindfolded. Youtube it it's pretty impressive i once beat the first level of Star Fox blindfolded. i did not lose any health and got 100% kills too. i had to use all of my nova bombs though 
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Xanei.exe posted:I had Kickle and it rocked. So many puzzle games with ice theming it seems like. I still have kickle I still play it Game owns Mendel palace for life bitches
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Sep 18, 2016 22:58
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Faxanadu is actually terrible, that one's just nostalgia
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Zorodius posted:Faxanadu is actually terrible, that one's just nostalgia so wrong man holy cow
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although as a kid I was stuck for like 3 months because I didn't know you had to go talk to the king lmao
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I liked Bill Elliott's NASCAR challenge
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Sep 18, 2016 23:09
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Wizards and warriors 3 was the best game on the Nintendo entertainment system
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Super mario bros 2 is the hardest of the trio. I think i only beat it a couple of times. I can beat 1 and 3 with one eye closed.
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The Battle of Olympus doesn't get enough love. I rented the gently caress out of this game when I was a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5R9GnYQ58
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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:Super mario bros 2 is the hardest of the trio. I think i only beat it a couple of times. I can beat 1 and 3 with one eye closed. 2 easy as gently caress man
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In SMB2 that ice level where the birds fly at you hosed my poo poo up as a kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiPfLIIweHk&t=114s
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Code Jockey posted:In SMB2 that ice level where the birds fly at you hosed my poo poo up as a kid just duck under em or jump over otherwise slide along geez its not hard
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Celluloid Sam posted:although as a kid I was stuck for like 3 months because I didn't know you had to go talk to the king lmao If you spent every single gold he gave you at the start you could walk up to him and he'd give you the starting gold again. And keep doing it until you had an odd amount you couldn't spend to zero.
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I've gotten to where I always got stuck as a kid in faxanadu already in like 20 minutes and made it past
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Celluloid Sam posted:I've gotten to where I always got stuck as a kid in faxanadu already in like 20 minutes and made it past its fun playing a nes game as an adult and kicking the poo poo out of kid you
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The worst part of SMB2 was in that desert level where the moment you picked up a key, Phanto chased you around relentlessly unless you dropped the key. Young me always got really anxious about it and would try to do everything too fast and inevitably gently caress up. Same kinda panic that Sonic 2 time running out/drowning music instilled.
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We brought up the old snes some time back and I was shocked at the memory I had of super Mario world. I can barely remember day to day things but I recalled where every switch passage, star road secret, warp tunnels, etc were. Same when I did a play through of super Mario 3. The things that stick with you.
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RestingB1tchFace posted:If you didn't say Super Off-Road......you are wrong. I had Super Off Road: The Baja for SNES which was pretty messed up because you could run over the spectators.
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Xanei.exe posted:Games were literally just better up until around the GameCube era. I mean the games were still good from time to time but things just slowly started changing for the worse. I like to think that games reached their peak around the 64 and PlayStation since games were doing way more than they ever could but without having to sacrifice quality, features, or just content in general. lol, PS1/N64 era was the nadir of console gaming. The shift to 3D rendered a lot of skills more or less obsolete and it took another decade for developers to get back to where they had been before.
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Parallax Scroll posted:just duck under em or jump over otherwise slide along geez its not hard Look man I was an RPG kid I didn't have reflexes that sharp okay
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The best games have nearly always been iterated on PC. The only exception i can think of are sports games and very specifically japanese style rpgs. Everything else was done first and better on pc then iterated on.
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Jastiger posted:The best games have nearly always been iterated on PC. The only exception i can think of are sports games and very specifically japanese style rpgs. Everything else was done first and better on pc then iterated on. I hate agreeing with you, but you're right. I always played console for platformers, SRPGs, and fighting games. PC was everything else.
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