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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Scream Stream thread is up for those of you who want to supplement their viewing this October.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Any plans to watch Blood Shack? It predates Halloween by quite a bit and contains a lot of slasher elements.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


long-rear end nips Diane posted:

1. Maniac Cop (1988)

Total gem. The social commentary is probably more relevant today than the day it was filmed, and Robert Z'Dar is incredibly menacing as the titular Maniac Cop. Bruce Campbell kinda sucks in it but he wasn't really given much comedy to work with outside of throwing himself into things. I'm a big fan of the action setpieces near the end, more horror movies need car chases.

4 :spooky: / 5 :spooky:

Do yourself a favor and check out the sequel, which is one of the best low budget action movies out there (yet still has enough horror elements to count towards the challenge).

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Choco1980 posted:

I think you showed it the very first scream stream I came to. How's part 3 by the way?

Yeah, it was included in the Sequel Stream of 2014. I've not seen part 3 but I've never heard a single good thing about it from fans of the first two, or anyone else in general.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Asiina posted:

1408 - A fairly traditional spooky movie. Moreso than any of the others I've watched so far. Dude checks into an evil hotel room, spookiness ensues. A little cheesy in places and compared to Marnie where I didn't know what was going to happen, you could map out the plot points of 1408 in the first 20 minutes. I did like how once it got started it never really let up, and it was constantly trying new ways to freak the character out. It also had a good counter for every reasonable attempt to escape the room. Not really overly scary or disturbing. It played it pretty safe, but it was okay. Out of 5 I'd give it :spooky::spooky::spooky:

Which cut of the film did you watch? I think the theatrical cut is a lot better, personally.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Asiina posted:

I'm not sure. Maybe a different cut would have changed things but honestly it felt like a pretty cookie cutter horror movie.

What was the ending? Burnt corpse or tape?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Asiina posted:

Both? The very ending was Him walking through the burnt room smoking a cigarette before disappearing because he was a :ghost:

Yeah, that's the bad cut. Besides having a bad ending, it also spends a lot more time exploring the relationship with the dad instead of focusing on the daughter like it should, which is pretty weak. The other cut's like 10 minutes shorter. Probably not gonna take the movie to 5 spookies for you but it's generally agreed to be a much better cut.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Asiina posted:

I fell a little behind, but that's okay. It was expected. Besides, today was an excellent movie day.

Frailty - I really liked this movie. They really walked the line between whether the visions were real or not the entire movie. It's fun when you're able to keep two possible explanations in your head through an entire movie and have both seem plausible. I wish they hadn't answered the question so directly and still left it a little ambiguous, but I don't really fault the movie for that. Again, not overly scary but pretty disturbing which I like. :spooky::spooky::spooky::spooky:

Can you fuckin believe the original cut of the film showed the audience the visions the dad had? I'm really glad the final cut changed that. One of my favorite things in the entire film is the hard cut between the angel Gabriel coming down in all his glory with his flaming sword and Bill Paxton just laying under the car in a totally flat angle, to emphasize how he's the only one seeing anything at all.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Asiina posted:

That would have been terrible. A big part of the appeal was going back and forth in your mind on what was actually happening. I know that until the reveal I didn't really know one way or the other.

They only changed it once they screened it the other way and all agreed they were overwhelmingly on the dad's side. The commentary tracks for the film are really fun, I recommend listening to them sometime.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I've said it before and I'll say it again, one of my favorite minor things about It Follows is the weird fashion the girls are wearing in most scenes, a combination of booty shorts and sweaters. It might seem fairly absurd, but it allows the camera to dictate modesty. When they're shot from the top down, they seem like fully dressed individuals, but when the angle is lower, suddenly you're reminded their legs are exposed and the inherent sexuality of young women and all it implies in the context of the film. Just like how the characters themselves tend to act a bit younger and a bit older than their age depending on some of the scenes.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Franchescanado posted:

10. Leprechaun

Ugh. This movie is suffering. Let's look at the flaws:

Deaths.... Are terrible. I don't mind wacky deaths, but these were just stupid. Pogo-stick death, a cop being stalked for way-too-long...Just boring stuff.


Is the first Leprechaun the one where he makes his pot of gold appear in an old man's belly when the old man insists the leprechaun has to give him his gold? Because that's at least one pretty freakin' memorable kill.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Franchescanado posted:

Nope! The mentally handicapped guy swallows a coin, that's it. I think you're thinking of Leprechaun 2.

Ah, probably, it's been a long time. I just remember that particular scene sticking with me.

Leprechaun 2 is about Leprechaun trying to marry a lady.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


One thing that's worth noting about NOESM 1 is that, unlike all the sequels, the craziest poo poo doesn't happen in the dream world, with Freddy using complicated magic power kills ironically themed after his victims' character flaws. It's what people see happen in the real world, as a result of an invisible, intangible force that's the visually crazy poo poo. People fly around while getting stabbed, turn into blood volcanoes, have messages appear in their skin. And for most of these scenes, no one has any idea what the hell is going on right in front of their eyes.

I think leaving what's "really" happening in the dream world more vague and showing the crazy results certainly works better in a serious attempt at horror, unlike the camp that the sequels became.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I always think people are talking about Uninvited instead.

That movie has the scariest monster of all:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Xenomrph posted:

16. Dawn of the Dead (remake) - I still really, really like this movie, and it's still arguably one of my favorite zombie movies. It manages to condense a ton of characters and subplots into its runtime without feeling overloaded or rushed. I'm not bothered at all by the "fast zombies", they manage to be scary in distinctly different ways than the "unending, inevitable shambling horde" of the Romero movies and I think it works to the movie's benefit and give it its own "identity" compared to the original movie.

You cut out the tv preacher and give it a new title and it'd stand on its own as just a really good zombie movie with slightly similar premise to Dawn of the Dead.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


SomeJazzyRat posted:

32. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)[/b]


Next up: Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers

Glutton for punishment, eh.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Choco1980 posted:


#39. Corpse Party (2015)

A group of students, while throwing a going away party for a classmate, perform what is supposed to be a silly kid ritual to ensure they remain friends always. What it actually does is send them to a different dimension, housing a legendary school where several children were murdered. Now the class is trapped within this school with killer ghosts, and must try to find a way back home.

I'll admit, I knew nothing of this game going in, I just found the title on a list of games turned into live action movies in Japan. That said, it's a fun supernatural stalk and slash type. It's super mean-spirited, and super gory. Apparently the game is a "visual novel" which for those of you who don't know, is a video game equivalent to the old choose-your-own-adventure games, with mostly static imagery. That said, looking things up briefly via wikipedia and google images, this movie looks like it's pretty darn accurate, with all the characters coming from the game, and even the way they look being close approximations. Again, this looks like an extremely violent set of games.

I give Corpse Party :fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff: out of Five

I'm guessing the movie is improved by not starring RPG maker default assets.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


What I've seen of the game makes the child deaths in it look pretty gore porn-y(in the literal 'someone is beating off to this' sense), so it sounds like the movie follows the spirit of the game faithfully.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Leatherface famously had a ton, and I do mean a ton of reshoots and cuts to get a lower rating, which led to large changes in the plot and tons of over the top gore being taken out. Not saying the original vision would've been a good film, but it would at least been a bloodier one. It's really sad, since the director set out to make the goriest, most shocking slasher movie yet so as to make the kind of impact the original TCM had in its day, only for the increasingly strict MPAA to deflate his movie's bite more than any other slasher in history. The studio also hosed with the production as well, iirc.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Class3KillStorm posted:

I'm always glad to see Donald Pleasance show up, even when he has nothing to do (like he does in all of the later Halloween sequels).

He does some cool poo poo in part 5. That movie largely sucks but the Doc Loomis parts are my favorites in the series.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It's a weak-rear end movie with a surprisingly strong ending.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Isn't part 9 the one that was supposed to lead to the Freddy v Jason movie that got delayed like 10 years?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Creepshow and Creepshow 2 are pretty darn essential.

Butch Cassidy posted:

All four entries in the Evil Dead series get marathoned the day before Halloween.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Basebf555 posted:

The remake counts, I think its definitely worthy of being considered a part of the series.

Neither Raimi or Campbell are involved, I really can't accept it as anything but an unrelated novelty.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Butch Cassidy posted:

Both paid for it while the latter even showed up in the credits :colbert:

Quentin Tarantino Presents

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I repeatedly commented during The Relic that it felt like Roland Emerich trying to direct a horror film.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


There's a comic book sequel to Jason X where a piece of Jason gore stuck to the ceiling gets regenerated into a full Jason by the onboard genetics lab, leading to a fight between Jason Classic and Cyber Jason X.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


My main problem with Freddy vs Jason is that it's a Freddy movie that happens to have Jason in it. Not only is the plot centered way more around Freddy, it's obvious the film-makers think he's a more interesting character (perhaps rightfully so). So it ends up feeling pretty uneven once they actually start to fight, since Freddy inexplicably has tons of sick ninja moves in the real world after having a major advantage in the dream world, which doesn't really jibe with previous films in the Nightmare on Elm Street series. All Jason really has going for him in that fight is that he doesn't die no matter what.

This may sound like (and actually be) a very fanboyish kind of complaint, but in a movie about the two most popular horror icons (of their time) clashing, it's kinda lame to favor one over the other.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Definitely. I won't pretend like Jason doesn't have his moments in the film, either. It just feels very uneven once you get to the final act.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


With the Scream Stream finally over, it's time to tally up the new watches.

1 - Interview with the vampire
I'd technically seen about half of this on TV before, but it was my first time watching the whole thing. This movie doesn't hold up at all. Despite the lavish production values and copious amounts of gore, it's a really dull movie that's up its own rear end and horribly dated in its ideas of what's cool or edgy. 2/5

2 - The Howling
Corny and fun, with a lot of Joe Dante's typical satirical bite. Not the best werewolf transformations you'll ever see, but definitely not the worst. This movie feels so powerfully 70s.3/5

3 - The Last Man On Earth
Other than a few scenes with the army, this movie really has nothing going for it other than having Price as the lead. I'm ashamed to say I like the Will Smith movie better overall.2.5/5

4 - Lifeforce
The craziest poo poo you'll ever see this side of Possession. What a rack. 4/5

5 - Extraordinary Tales
Fun series of shorts with weird and interesting visuals, based on some of Poe's best works. The animation is kinda weak in places, but overall very charming. Lee and Lugosi were born to narrate. My biggest complaint is the last short's decision to let the visuals speak for themselves. As good as they are, Poe was a true wordsmith, and losing his prose weakens the story. 3.5/5

6 - Carnosaur
Thumbs up! Terrific! I liked this movie! - Gene Siskel 3.5/5

7 - Candyman
Haunting, marvelously slow-paced, and bursting with metaphors and messages in almost every scene. Tony Todd can chew up scenery like few others. 4/5

8 - John Dies at the End
Really creative and funny, and very creepy at times, with varying quality of special effects from scene to scene. Rushes to a really abrupt conclusion after what feels like the halfway point of the story, but stays fun throughout. 3.5/5

9 - Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Probably the best cinematography in a horror film this side of The Exorcist. Everyone's great in this, especially sexy young Jeff Goldblum. The special effects, while a small part of the film's running time, are top notch and truly haunting. Hobodog is one of the top horror movie images I've ever seen. 4/5

10 - Horror of Dracula
Wow! I really wish I liked this film more, but it's one of those times where Hammer's low budget is just too obvious for its own good. Some great scenes and performances combined with some terrible effects and really bad lighting. Cushing and Lee are a delight, of course. 3/5

11 - Witchfinder General
Really intense performance from Price, and really methodical in its brutality. Got distracted by real life stuff while streaming so can't give an accurate score. ?/5

12 - The Manitou
Crazy, stupid, cheap, intriguing, grotesque, sometimes frightening, slightly racist. A good time, in other words. 3/5

13 - The Haunting(1963)
Really compelling for its strong characters and the intense performances some of them give. While low on scares, the ones it has are pretty drat well executed. Really neat camera-based effects and cinematography in general. Would date Theo. 4/5

14 - Pontypool
Really interesting twist on the old "zombie outbreak" formula. Strong central cast, great use of the movie's almost only location. The 'rules' of the outbreak really didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I suppose that's fine since the characters have no idea what the gently caress's going on for most of the running time. Stephen McHattie's definitely got a voice for radio. Mort aux Anglais! 3.5/5

15 -Don't Look Now
Haunting and surreal movie about grief and relationships. Lots of weird and not so weird sexuality. Do not watch while sleepy. 3/5

16 - Jekyll and Hyde, Together Again
Or maybe this is the craziest poo poo you'll ever see? A pure farce in the style of Mel Brooks or the Zucker brothers, this goofy sex and drug comedy was the surprise hit of the Scream Stream. While some of its jokes land flat, it never lets up and goes all out with both its concept and its gags. Even the complete lack of a third act doesn't slow it down. If only it didn't have some unfortunately homophobic and racist 80s gags, it'd probably be a 5 for me. 4/5

17 - The Sentinel
Satanic and catholic conspiracies combined with the horror and disgust inherent in the elderly. A trippy movie full of memorable scenes and horrifying visuals. Whoever did the makeup effects in this one deserves some kind of award. 3/5

18 - Angel Heart
Another one I'd seen partway through before. While the film was perfectly well made and acted, it didn't particularly grab me. Some really disturbing and bloody scenes. Reminiscent of films like Devil's Advocate and Seven, for obvious reasons. 2.5/5

19 - Rope
A perfectly executed one-room drama. Nearly done in one continuous shot, this film has some really strong performances and dramatic use of the free flowing camera. Hitchcock was a master, plain and simple. 4.5/5

20 - The Legend of Hell House
Creepy, scary, perverted, shocking, puzzling. This movie has tons of great horror moments, but sometimes feels like it's meandering, as characters don't react with the appropriate urgency after some of the manifestations, and some of the escalation of the supernatural threat feels very start 'n stoppy. Pamela Franklin kills it in every scene she's in.3.5/5

21 - The Relic
Jesus Christ, gently caress off with this poo poo. It's like if Roland Emmerich tried to direct an EC comics adaptation. The only redeeming quality was that the creature design was kinda neat, in a Turok the Dinosaur Hunter kind of way. :itwaspoo:/5

22 - The Mangler
Dumb fun, full of cheese and ham. JJJ Pictureman was too good for this world. 3/5

23 - Rosemary's Baby
Ugh. This movie is about drug-induced rape, and is directed by Roman Polanski. While the feeling of social alienation and abuse Rosemary experiences throughout the film is incredibly authentic and heartbreaking, and the use of the score and the cinematography in general is striking, haunting and effective, it's impossible for me to divorce the film from its creator, especially since the movie reads like a goddamn how-to for his crime. If you're the sort of viewer who doesn't let that sort of thing bother them, it's like a way way way way way way way better version of Lords of Salem. :fuckoff:/5

24 - Hellraiser
Yet another partly-watched. Not much to say other than that it's a stone cold classic. Hellraiser 1 and 2 are some of the goriest films you'll ever see, and this film uses its gore to be genuinely disturbing and horrifying, rather than to be silly like Dead Alive or Evil Dead 2. Top of the shelf kink-shaming. It's hard to believe Pinhead became such a ridiculous character over time. 4/5

25 - Are You Afraid of the Dark - The Tale of the Silver Sight
This barely counts as a movie, but this 3-parter was apparently shown as a tv movie at least once, and sold as such on home video. Being from the 1999 relaunch seasons, it's well below the quality of the average AYAOTD episode, and since we're already talking low budget children's entertainment, that's dire. Bad acting, no sets, obviously shot on video, lots of filler material. What a waste of the long-awaited premise of the Midnight Society being involved a real-life scary story. 1.5/5

Rewatches:
Christine - 5/5
Coraline - 4.5/5
The Exorcist - 5/5
Stir of Echoes - 2/5
Frankenstein(1931) - 3.5/5
Creepshow - 4.5/5
Creepshow 2 - 3.5/5
Chopping Mall - 4/5
WNUF Halloween Special - Special/5


For those who can't do math, that's 25 new films and 34 total. Pretty good, considering how busy I was.

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