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I'm excited to see the misadventures of space-time criminal Barry Allen, but most importantly, the Reverse Flash is coming back! I hope his scenes are good, because S1 evil speedster is still best evil speedster
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Swillkitsch posted:I'm excited to see the misadventures of space-time criminal Barry Allen, but most importantly, the Reverse Flash is coming back!
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Sep 25, 2016 00:52
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I'm fine with Wally as Kid Flash, I just still don't really understand why they went through the effort of hitting Wally and Jesse with the Flash making waves last season only to pull an "alternate reality" version. My guess is when Barry corrects Flashpoint Wally Flash will be gone but then later in the season his powers will emerge as a result of last season's incident, and then Jesse Quick will pop in from Earth 2 and we'll have like a 4 or 5 speedster teamup (Barry, Wally, Jesse, Jay, and maybe Thawne) against the new evil speedster.
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Sep 25, 2016 00:59
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STAC Goat posted:I'm fine with Wally as Kid Flash, I just still don't really understand why they went through the effort of hitting Wally and Jesse with the Flash making waves last season only to pull an "alternate reality" version.
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Sep 25, 2016 02:00
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I wonder if Earth 2 is affected by Time Travel on Earth 1. I assume it isn't because otherwise Zoom is presumably still terrorizing everyone over there. Would enjoy seeing Wells pop on over to say hello and realize Barry destroyed a universe.
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Sep 25, 2016 02:17
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I'm actually sort of looking forward to that. Like, it could be the "logical" (for Barry) move for Barry when he realizes he's made a mess of things but no one in his reality has enough experience or knowledge to help, so he pops over to E2 to get Wells' help and Wells reads him the riot act. And then Jesse Quick runs in really fast. Really the thing is that Jesse Quick was always one of those random C-list comic characters I liked so I'm anxiously awaiting them following through on the tease.
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Sep 25, 2016 02:57
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Yeah I assume Earth-2 is safe from any timeline fuckery Barry pulls, since it's a completely different universe. But fear not. Once Barry destroys his world, I am sure he will be happy to go to other worlds and gently caress up their timelines as well.
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Sep 25, 2016 03:15
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Barry Allen: (every) history's greatest monster
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Sep 25, 2016 04:03
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STAC Goat posted:Like, it could be the "logical" (for Barry) move for Barry when he realizes he's made a mess of things but no one in his reality has enough experience or knowledge to help, so he pops over to E2 to get Wells' help and Wells reads him the riot act. I am imagining the faces Wells would make once Barry tells him and it's making me want the season to start even sooner. 
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Sep 25, 2016 05:45
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All I want is a non speedster big bad. That's all I want. Felicity could come in as a regular and I'd still be happy.
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Sep 25, 2016 06:56
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mind the walrus posted:All I want is a non speedster big bad. That's all I want. Felicity could come in as a regular and I'd still be happy. Felicity Smoak *is* the big bad. Her metahuman power is to reduce all emotional disagreements to fits of trembling cry-yelling. She will defeat the Flash, by chastising him into compliance over a garbage 9-episode arc that leaves everyone unhappy.
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Sep 25, 2016 07:46
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If there's a c plot involving Dr alchemy or abracadabra as the big bad I'll take it.
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Sep 25, 2016 08:22
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mind the walrus posted:If there's a c plot involving Dr alchemy or abracadabra as the big bad I'll take it. Based on press releases: they're doing two big bads, one being Savitar (a speedster) and the other being Alchemy.
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Sep 25, 2016 08:59
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The big bad is Barry, same as the first two seasons.
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Sep 25, 2016 13:17
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Xealot posted:Felicity Smoak *is* the big bad. Her metahuman power is to reduce all emotional disagreements to fits of trembling cry-yelling. I liked her better when she was just a hacker that helped the arrow gently caress people's poo poo up. Her whole moral compass angle is a result of lovely writers.
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Sep 25, 2016 13:17
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Guy A. Person posted:Based on press releases: they're doing two big bads, one being Savitar (a speedster) and the other being Alchemy. That would be cool, although I'm sure Alchemy would take a very far backseat to Savitar because gently caress not having a speedster be the big bad. Is the douche in black with the winged fans on his head Savitar then? I know who he is from the comics, and that would be a weird place to take his look.
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Sep 25, 2016 13:30
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I really liked Patty while I was watching, and it's only in retrospect that she seems pointless. The actress and Grant had great chemistry, and their characters actually seemed to have fun together. One of tv's greatest sins is forcing together people who don't even seem to like each other because the writers hear "stories need conflict" and think "okay, so relationships must be All Problems All The Time and two characters should never be happy together."
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Sep 25, 2016 13:43
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mind the walrus posted:That would be cool, although I'm sure Alchemy would take a very far backseat to Savitar because gently caress not having a speedster be the big bad. Is the douche in black with the winged fans on his head Savitar then? I know who he is from the comics, and that would be a weird place to take his look. I think he's a Flashpoint only villain called Rival. And at least from the previews they seemed to be hinting at Alchemy being a mystery by having it scratched into a mirror.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:31
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Dude in the black suit is Jay Garrick villain The Rival.
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Sep 25, 2016 16:41
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http://tvline.com/2016/09/24/the-flash-spoilers-season-3-candice-patton-iris/ Candice talks about the premiere, cute spoilers! “You’ll get to see Barry try and woo her in Flashpoint,” the actress previews. “It’s really, really sweet. It reminds me of the pilot. .... [She] is very similar to all of the Irises you’ve ever seen, and that’s something that we’re trying to make clear on the show. No matter where Barry goes, what timeline, what Earth, Iris is his constant in the world. She’s always the Iris that he loves.” Yay!  Here is also a fun interview for your viewing pleasure! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QRTEBGcIo Koalas March fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sep 25, 2016 18:04
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Koalas March, I really like your enthusiasm about Iris, as well as your interesting discussions about her overall importance in terms of identity politics, being a role model, and all that. I have to admit I haven't always been the biggest Iris fan, but it has had nothing to do with Candice Patton (who is adorable and beautiful and does her best with the material she's given), and everything to do with the writers sidelining her in unimportant B- and C-plots and not giving her enough to do. I really hope they learn from their mistakes with her and in general, since all the DC shows were getting pretty awful last season.
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Sep 25, 2016 18:33
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That's a great OP you have there, shame if Barry altered the timeline and something was to happen to it... Let's hope this season is more lighthearted fun and goofy than season 2 imo and that they don't forget to give Iris stuff to do
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Sep 25, 2016 19:56
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Koalas March, I really like your enthusiasm about Iris, as well as your interesting discussions about her overall importance in terms of identity politics, being a role model, and all that. I have to admit I haven't always been the biggest Iris fan, but it has had nothing to do with Candice Patton (who is adorable and beautiful and does her best with the material she's given), and everything to do with the writers sidelining her in unimportant B- and C-plots and not giving her enough to do. I really hope they learn from their mistakes with her and in general, since all the DC shows were getting pretty awful last season. She needs to have a defined role in the show. Like, they could do a Arrow style season where there's a conspiracy or an organization that Iris could investigate using her journalism skills. Or maybe they could sometimes let Metahumans live, and Iris could work with them in some way
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Sep 25, 2016 20:37
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mind the walrus posted:That would be cool, although I'm sure Alchemy would take a very far backseat to Savitar because gently caress not having a speedster be the big bad. Is the douche in black with the winged fans on his head Savitar then? I know who he is from the comics, and that would be a weird place to take his look. Martout posted:Let's hope this season is more lighthearted fun and goofy than season 2 imo and that they don't forget to give Iris stuff to do
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Sep 25, 2016 21:09
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Guy Goodbody posted:She needs to have a defined role in the show. Like, they could do a Arrow style season where there's a conspiracy or an organization that Iris could investigate using her journalism skills. Or maybe they could sometimes let Metahumans live, and Iris could work with them in some way I'm glad people are enjoying my ride or die attitude and Iris West Appreciation station. (I snuck her into almost every gif lmao) But yeah, there's a wealth of interesting things they could do with her character. I just wish the writers would see and use her potential.
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Sep 25, 2016 21:58
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Koalas March posted:But yeah, there's a wealth of interesting things they could do with her character. I just wish the writers would see and use her potential. My favorite is still "Iris West, ethical advisor" from the kevin smith episode
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Sep 25, 2016 22:42
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One thing I've been dying to see on these shows is the introduction of Vic Sage as a muckracking journalist and conspiracy theorist, who moonlights as The Question (although he'd fit better on Arrow, with all the street-level vigilantes showing up), and somehow have him work with Iris on uncovering some big conspiracy.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:00
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:One thing I've been dying to see on these shows is the introduction of Vic Sage as a muckracking journalist and conspiracy theorist, who moonlights as The Question (although he'd fit better on Arrow, with all the street-level vigilantes showing up), and somehow have him work with Iris on uncovering some big conspiracy. I was hoping this would happen when they casted that one guy to work at CCPN in s2 but nope.. one date and he ran away faster than Police Brutality Patty™. The Question would be awesome.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:03
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Iris doesn't actually have journalism skills.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:07
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Aphrodite posted:Iris doesn't actually have journalism skills. You would think that whole thing about her only being hired because she knew the Flash would spur her prove them all wrong and show she's a good journalist on her own merits. Or maybe give up on journalism and do something else. Or, y'know, any sort of arc at all.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:13
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Guy Goodbody posted:You would think that whole thing about her only being hired because she knew the Flash would spur her prove them all wrong and show she's a good journalist on her own merits. Or maybe give up on journalism and do something else. Or, y'know, any sort of arc at all. Yeah, that was weird. It's the most obvious setup for either of those storylines and then they did neither.
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Sep 25, 2016 23:18
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Aphrodite posted:Iris doesn't actually have journalism skills. She does actually. In the OP I mentioned her feature on domestic abuse victims and she also tracked down the guy running the street races that Wally was mixed up with. There's also a bunch of things I can't remember because I refuse to rewatch s2. Also I'm going to ask that you don't bring anti-Iris sentiment into my lovely pro-Iris thread. Go back to the Error thread if you want to keep beating that drum. Thanks in advance! ✌✌✌ 
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Sep 26, 2016 00:00
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:One thing I've been dying to see on these shows is the introduction of Vic Sage as a muckracking journalist and conspiracy theorist, who moonlights as The Question (although he'd fit better on Arrow, with all the street-level vigilantes showing up), and somehow have him work with Iris on uncovering some big conspiracy. The Question could show up in any of the CW shows, and be amazing.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:10
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OB_Juan posted:The Question could show up in any of the CW shows, and be amazing. I want him to show up in Supergirl. A weird, kinda dark, street-level hero for her to team up with. Basically her Batman
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Sep 26, 2016 00:14
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I think Iris should go full Lois Lane, and constantly bumbles into danger investigating poo poo. It borderline damsels her sure, but it also gives her a proactive role in the A plot.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:18
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Martout posted:Let's hope this season is more lighthearted fun and goofy than season 2 imo and that they don't forget to give Iris stuff to do Flashpoint is very much not a lighthearted story so I... have my concerns. 
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Sep 26, 2016 00:23
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Chokes McGee posted:Flashpoint is very much not a lighthearted story so I... have my concerns. The quotes from the cast seem to say that they're doing "their own version" of Flashpoint. Which it seems basically boils down to reset button to make things more like s1, but keeping Wally and integrating Supergirl. It's also rumored to only last an episode or two so who tf really knows at this point.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:27
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As long as they ditch the last few eps of Arrow from last season, I'm ok with anything.
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Sep 26, 2016 00:33
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OB_Juan posted:As long as they ditch the last Yup
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Guy Goodbody posted:I want him to show up in Supergirl. A weird, kinda dark, street-level hero for her to team up with. Basically her Batman Yesss. They could have Oliver guest star and get some of that Justice League Unlimited magic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3K-Tenpq8g
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