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steinrokkan posted:Uh that's a bit bollocks, many clubs have huge followings that overshadow a huge portion of an entire country except for small fringe clubs. What you speak of is really only the case in England. That said it's true that most clubs have the rabid following concentrated at a spot so  . But I bet the same is true of american football clubs.
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Hambilderberglar, steinrokkan basically responded to your question. I would pin it at 40-50 clubs in Europe who could relocate on a similar 'popularity' basis. There's 5300 clubs in England alone. So a small percentage, but a solid number nevertheless. It just doesn't happen because it's a mental concept. It requires stifled competition, because otherwise (even if you're Barcelona) a move would make you lose fans, which will make you lose money, which will make you underperform, which will lose you fans. Remember, you can get relegated into nothingness in soccer. It's happened to Premier League winners who made huge missteps with treating their club, like Aston Villa. It's happening to Wisła Kraków - arguably the most known club in Poland - right now. dex_sda fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I could tear this apart and say how wrong it is, but I'll just point at Jamie Vardy whenever anyone says lower league football is rubbish. The MK Dons story is really all that needs to be said. It was an actual attempt at relocation, with an attempt at appropriation of the history of Wimbledon FC. Supporters would have none of it and literally formed a new football team instantly. It had to start from the bottom, the 9th tier, without the finances or any players. Fast forward 13 years, AFC Wimbledon (the supporter's club) climbed up to the third tier, an unprecedented rise. In the same time, MK Dons, due to loss of fans and revenue making them unable to compete, fell to the third tier. Guess which club has a better time filling up a stadium. The community aspect of soccer is the primary reason to watch the sport for most people. I've personally went to more Polish 6th tier games than to the games of the biggest club in Poland, simply because my dad cheered for that 6th tier team as he represented it in a different discipline, one where they were actually good. In a hosed way, the ultras/hools culture underscores just how big a deal it is. "Of all the unimportant things, football is the most important." dex_sda fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Simplex posted:People say this a lot, and it's become kind of an urban legend at this point where nobody bothers to check if it's actually true. So I looked at average league attendances of the teams, and here's the results. I included Brentford as a comparison as they are a team of similar stature to MK Dons and is located geographically close to Wimbledon: That's interesting, I thought MK Dons' numbers would be lower (but it bears mentioning that AFC Wimbledon's stadium has only 4850 capacity, with 2250 seats)
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