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Panfilo posted:Tagging along this question, I'm curious how much porn really shapes our attitudes about nudity. I've often heard women shaved their pubes because women in porn. In places like the US how much of a warped attitude are people getting from porn exactly? Since people in the US are less likely to see casual nudity (women breastfeeding, spas, locker rooms, beaches) I wonder if their expectations of having the 'right' body are warped. pubes nothing, there is whole areas of the body that men are so unaware that women shave that they think a women is somehow sick if she has hair there. Like not morally "sick", physically ill.
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TheImmigrant posted:For example? Chest hair, facial hair, etc. It can be a sign of hormonal problems but all women have hair their and some are just unlucky enough to have it be visible. In most cases it's removed quietly without a lot of advertisement.
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I don't like being naked around people, but I don't really think it's to do with people coming to rape me. I think it's to do with America being a very anonymous culture. I class that in with the fact I'd prefer to not know my neighbors or see or talk to them. There is a feeling that there is just a bunch of randos around everywhere all the time and they come and go and it's not a community and you just talk and interact with your friends and family and everyone else you run into is someone that it's weird to talk to or look at or interact with and that extended to cover doing anything even remotely private around them. Stuff like crying in public is super weird in the US as well. don't ask, don't tell on anything even slightly even a little bit private. If you go asking or poking into anything even mildly private that is weird, if you share anything private that is weird. Americans don't want to interact or share anything even superficially private with other random americans. Dongs fit in the mildly private category.
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AARO posted:I'm pretty sure this post is the answer to the question I was asking. You're absolutely right that Americans are weirdly standoffish about certain topics. You can't ask people how much money they make while this is a common question in some other countries. It's weird that we don't talk to our neighbors as well. Americans have all types of weird rules about public behavior. Nudity just became off limits at some point along the way. I mean ugly guys constantly coming up to them to flirt is a good reason why girls would want to just head down and walk on through and try to make it through the day with as little interaction as possible with street randos.
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Oct 1, 2016 03:19
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I love that thing where people do the "My culture has drilled something into my head from birth but weirdly I just came up with the exact same opinion totally independently by my own objective thought!" and don't even notice they are doing it.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:17
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I don't recall any classic paintings of earwax or nose hair. Weird how people depict some body parts in the best possible light and others in the worst. Weird how men are taught to view male bodies as something so disgusting it's repulsive and to think of women as pretty except their horrible monsterous diseased sinful genitals that make pious men vomit to even think about.
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Oct 4, 2016 23:16
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fishmech posted:Most people in this country actually had no problem with it, or just plain thought it was funny if they even saw it. Most humans have apathy towards most events in general.
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Oct 7, 2016 19:53
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DeusExMachinima posted:What alternative forms of male beauty are being marginalized here? They wouldn't happen to be body types that belong to people who visit fat pride tumblrs would they? Both men and women are seen as disgusting for being too overweight but for men you can be slightly into clinical obesity and seen as normal and acceptable while women who are in the normal weight range are seen as disgustingly fat. Both men and women being seen as unattractive for being fat is only equal if you are thinking about really hyper obese people.
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Oct 8, 2016 22:04
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steinrokkan posted:I dunno, I've heard enough women say they vhoose to look certain way because they like it themselves that I find it hard to not see the lines between male gaze and female self realization blurring in the consumer sphere. THen again, I do realize that women can be agents of the patriarchy. When china outlawed foot binding they had to go around arresting women because it was women that wanted to keep doing it because they were taught their whole life having ugly regular feet was disgusting whore stuff and people would rather break the bones in their own foot than be seen as disgusting and undatable.
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Oct 12, 2016 01:49
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IronicDongz posted:makes you sound like a jackass and makes it harder to take you seriously. Don't worry, anything marginalized people do can be used as an excuse to not take them seriously. If he was less dispassionate you'd claim he was freaking out or making a big deal or whatever.
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Oct 12, 2016 19:31
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WampaLord posted:Are you kidding? Maybe you have a point with movies, in that we seem to have moved past the bodybuilder action heroes of the 80s/90s We have moved from 80s body builders where the body builders were constrained by having to have actual physical human bodies to an even more nightmare world where a lot of the popular action movies use suits and CGI to literally give actors unreal musculature that don't exist.
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Oct 17, 2016 15:40
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vintagepurple posted:Being huge and buff is presented as cool, manly, badass, whatever, I'll concede, but in terms of "men people want to gently caress" it's all tall, tight, lean dudes with abs but also ribs, not Arnies. Wasn't that the exact original point? That in media girls are the girl's men want to gently caress and men are the men men want to be. If a movie wants a cool male badass they get a cool badass looking dude but if they want a badass women they hire a supermodel.
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Oct 21, 2016 20:42
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fishmech posted:But the "badass looking dude" usually isn't some musclebound Arnold in his prime, but something more like: The other part of it is simply that men are allowed a far far wider range of body types in film because men are people who have character traits in film while being a woman is seen as a character trait. So even with trends you can find virtually any male body type cast in virtually any sort of role while women have maybe 3 body types total and they are all variations on like 2 regardless of role.
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call to action posted:It's weird how many women will say they "dress to impress other women", and then turn around and say that having to look good is an effect of patriarchy Why is that weird. Oppressed groups often are the harshest self policers because punishments are often collective.
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