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yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

I can almost taste the hockey. Make your dumb predictions for this season.

I also shamelessly stole the OP from last year's prediction thread. Use that. And be sure to mark the Wild Card teams for each conference.


EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1.
2.
3.
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4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Metropolitan

1.
2.
3.
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4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1.
2.
3.
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4.
5.
6.
7.

Pacific

1.
2.
3.
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4.
5.
6.
7.

STANLEY CUP FINALS: ??? def. ???
WCF: ??? def. ???
ECF: ??? def. ???

AWARDS
Hart:
Richard:
Art Ross:
Vezina:
Norris:
Calder:
Selke:
Lady Byng:
Jack Adams:

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST:
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST:
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST:
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST:
Most Goals Scored:
Least Goals Scored:
Most Goals Allowed:
Least Goals Allowed:

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine:
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews:
Most Improved Player, West:
Most Improved Player, East:
First Coach Fired:
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points:
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft:
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers:
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs:
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks:

Feel free to add more interesting predictions!

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Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Boston
3. Florida
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4. Montreal (WC)
5. Ottawa
6. Detroit
7. Buffalo
8. Toronto

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh (PT)
2. Washington
3. NY Rangers
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4. Philadelphia (WC)
5. NY Islanders
6. New Jersey
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. St. Louis
3. Dallas
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4. Chicago (WC)
5. Minnesota (WC)
6. Colorado
7. Winnipeg

Pacific

1. Los Angeles
2. San Jose
3. Edmonton
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4. Anaheim
5. Calgary
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Washington def. Los Angeles
WCF: Los Angeles def. Nashville
ECF: Washington def. Tampa Bay

AWARDS
Hart: Connor McDavid
Richard: Connor McDavid
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Carey Price
Norris: PK Subban
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Patrice Bergeron
Lady Byng: Johnny Gaudreau
Jack Adams: Todd McLellan

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Montreal
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: NY Islanders
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Edmonton
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Pittsburgh
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Toronto
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 20/30/50
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25/35/60
Most Improved Player, West: Nikolaj Ehlers
Most Improved Player, East: Jonathan Drouin
First Coach Fired: Michel Therrien
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Marc-Andre Fleury
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 1
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 0

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Montreal
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4. Boston
5. Toronto
6. Detroit
7. Buffalo
8. Ottawa

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. NY Rangers
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4. NY Islanders (WC)
5. Philadelphia (WC)
6. New Jersey
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Dallas
2. Nashville
3. St. Louis
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4. Chicago (WC)
5. Winnipeg (WC)
6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. Los Angeles
2. San Jose
3. Anaheim
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4. Edmonton
5. Calgary
6. Vancouver
7. Arizona

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Washington def. Nashville
WCF: Nashville def. San Jose
ECF: Washington def. Tampa Bay

AWARDS
Hart: Connor McDavid
Richard: Alexander Ovechkin
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Carey Price
Norris: Brent Burns
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Patrice Bergeron
Lady Byng: Johnny Gaudreau
Jack Adams: Mike Babcock

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Toronto
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Edmonton
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Columbus
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 28/20/48
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 33/25/58
Most Improved Player, West: Bo Horvat
Most Improved Player, East: Jonathan Drouin
First Coach Fired: Willie Desjardins
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Rick Nash
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: Physically, 1. As far as "What the gently caress was Sbisa doing on that play"? 27.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Boston
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4. Montreal
5. Ottawa
6. Detroit
7. Buffalo
8. Toronto

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh
2. Washington
3. NY Rangers
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4. NY Islanders (WC)
5. Philadelphia (WC)
6. New Jersey
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. Chicago
3. St. Louis
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4. Dallas (WC)
5. Winnipeg (WC)
6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. Los Angeles
2. San Jose
3. Anaheim
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4. Arizona
5. Calgary
6. Edmonton
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Pittsburgh def. Chicago
WCF: Chicago def. Los Angeles
ECF: Pittsburgh def. Florida

AWARDS
Hart: Sidney Crosby
Richard: Alexander Ovechkin
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Braden Holtby
Norris: Erik Karlsson
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Patrice Bergeron
Lady Byng: Ryan O'Reilly
Jack Adams: Mike Sullivan

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Montreal
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Arizona
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Vancouver
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Columbus
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 22/20/42
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25/25/50
Most Improved Player, West: Luca Sbisa
Most Improved Player, East: Tanner Glass
First Coach Fired: Willie Desjardins
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Tanner Glass
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 0
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 0

Shawn Cotureier
Jan 21, 2009

Still better than Umberger
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay Lightning
2. Florida Panthers
3. Boston Bruins
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4. Montreal Canadiens
5. Buffalo Sabres
6. Detroit Red Wings
7. Ottawa Senators
8. Toronto Maple Leafs

Metropolitan

1. Washington Capitals
2. Pittsburgh Penguins
3. Philadelphia Flyers
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4. Carolina Hurricanes (WC)
5. New York Rangers (WC)
6. New York Islanders
7. New Jersey Devils
8. Columbus Blue Jackets

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville Predators
2. Dallas Stars
3. Chicago Blackhawks
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4. Minnesota Wild (WC)
5. Colorado Avalanche
6. St. Louis Blues
7. Winnipeg Jets

Pacific

1. Los Angeles Kings
2. San Jose Sharks
3. Calgary Flames
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4. Anaheim Ducks (WC)
5. Arizona Coyotes
6. Edmonton Oilers
7. Vancouver Canucks

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Tampa Bay def. Los Angeles
WCF: Los Angeles def. Nashville
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Washington

AWARDS
Hart: Patrick Kane
Richard: Steven Stamkos
Art Ross: Patrick Kane
Vezina: Semyon Varlamov
Norris: Aaron Ekblad
Calder: Patrik Laine
Selke: Patrice Bergeron
Lady Byng: Johnny Gaudreau
Jack Adams: Jon Cooper

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Carolina Hurricanes
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: New York Rangers
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Arizona
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: St. Louis
Most Goals Scored: Tampa Bay
Least Goals Scored: Columbus
Most Goals Allowed: Dallas
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 27-35-62
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 24-39-63
Most Improved Player, West: Sam Bennett
Most Improved Player, East: Noah Hanifin
First Coach Fired: Michel Therrien
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Marc-Andre Fleury
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 1
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: -2

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - A good team that hasn't regressed in any way. I feel like they underperformed a bit last year
2. Florida - A good team that redid its back end entirely, so I dunno I guess they'll still make the playoffs?
3. Montreal - Therrien lives to see another season
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4. Boston - Unless they discover some sort of age reversing salve for Chara, they're in trouble on defence
5. Buffalo - For no reason whatsoever I say Eichel has a sophomore slump
6. Ottawa - Eugene's savvy business moves at the deadline sees them plummet out of the playoffs post deadline
7. Detroit - An aging crumbling team for an aging crumbling city
8. Toronto - They'll be fun to watch I think?

Metropolitan

1. Washington - Lose in the Conference Finals and take the nuclear option in the summer rather than staying the course
2. Pittsburgh - An early cup hangover but they come on strong in the second half again
3. New Jersey - I like the changes they made in the summer, I feel like Shero is slowly ending the defence mentality that defined them for a decade
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4. Philadelphia (WC) - Provorov sticks for the season and is in the calder discussion by year's end
5. NY Rangers (WC) - Not quite over the hill, but getting there. I figure they revamp hard next summer
6. Carolina - Good times Aho-y (but not quite yet)
7. NY Islanders - Just a gut feeling, and they'll probably be fine but they lost a lot of their depth in the summer and they were hardly overstocked last year
8. Columbus - Haha Torts, oh man. Thanks for the pick Jarmo!

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville - They took an all world defence and added one of the top 3 defencemen in the game. They remind me of the 06 Ducks with basically 3 #1s on the back end and a multi-line offence. They're my cup pick
2. Dallas - Good offence, bad goaltending; sky blue, water wet
3. St. Louis - Losing Schwartz for a month or more again is a big loss, their offence is thinning quickly with Backes gone
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4. Chicago (WC) - Still a great team, they always seem to recover from a talent exodus so I say they do it again no sweat
5. Colorado (WC) - With a new coach and a bit more structure, they come out of a tight pack fighting for the 2nd WC spot
6. Minnesota - They just miss, no good reason as to why I picked Colorado over them. It's a coin toss
7. Winnipeg - They finish last in the death division because of my (ir)rational dislike of them

Pacific

1. Los Angeles - They make the conference finals again and I continue to question why I like this sport
2. San Jose - One of the Joes hits a wall this year. Find out which one, NEXT ON NBC!
3. Anaheim - I have no idea what their plan was this summer. Canning Boudreau and riding Gibson in net? Yeesh
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4. Calgary - They're in the WC hunt but fall behind in the end. Bennett has a big year
5. Edmonton - McDavid is great but they can't seem to figure out how to surround him with real talent like the Pens did with Crosby
6. Arizona - Young!
7. Vancouver - Bad!

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Tampa Bay
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Washington

AWARDS
Hart: Sidney Crosby because why not?
Richard: Jamie Benn
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Carey Price
Norris: Shea Weber because he gets 20 goals in Montreal and they finally decide he gets one
Calder: Sebastien Aho
Selke: Anze Kopitar
Lady Byng: Sean Monahan? Who cares.
Jack Adams: Dan Bylsma

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: New Jersey (16)
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: NY Islanders (12)
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Colorado (11)
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: St. Louis (10)
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Columbus
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 17-29-46
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 24-28-52
Most Improved Player, West: Anthony Duclair
Most Improved Player, East: Damon Severson? IDK
First Coach Fired: Jack Capuano
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Rick Nash
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 7 including the one that officially eliminates them from playoff contention causing Jim Benning to say this was a rebuilding season anyways

ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 3, 2016

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - I don't see any weaknesses really. Maybe they have a few too many "good" players and not enough truly great ones? Hedman could win the Norris.
2. Florida - Their offseason moves were excellent. I don't think they can beat Tampa in a series but they're close.
3. Boston - They should have made it last year. Rask rebounds.
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4. Montreal (WC) - I think they've probably got enough with a healthy Price.
5. Detroit - I don't buy the doom and gloom, but their D is really bad.
6. Buffalo - Getting there.
7. Toronto - Matthews is so loving good. Already better than Eichel imo. Babcock could have them in the playoffs soon.
8. Ottawa - I'd like to see Karlsson play for a good team but it isn't happening this year.

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh - Crosby is in terminator mode. the Murray injury is worrisome but Fleury is a fine regular season goalie. Hopefully (for Pens fans) they're not dumb enough to stay with him when Murray gets back.
2. Washington - I still don't like them in a series vs Pittsburgh, and I think they'll be playing the entire year waiting for the playoffs.
3. NY Rangers - Still a ton of forward depth and Lundqvist.
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4. NY Islanders (WC) - They'll struggle, but I still like them more than Philly/NJ unless their goaltending lets them down (which it very well might).
5. Philadelphia - Provorov is really good but they're still shaky on the backend.
6. New Jersey - The defense is just so bad. Getting there but probably not this year.
7. Carolina - They're better than people realize, but there's still not enough there.
8. Columbus - They could make the playoffs if everything goes well, but it probably won't.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville - If Johansen plays like a true #1 I think they're the favorite in the West.
2. Dallas - As long as Seguin comes back healthy.
3. Chicago - Campbell is still a badass #4. It was hard to get a good read on Kempny in the WC but his skating was solid.
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4. Colorado (WC) - Agreed with ThinkTank. MacKinnon and Duchene looked incredible at the WC and I think with a real coach and a good season from Varly they can take the next step.
5. Winnipeg (WC) - As long as they start Helle I like them for a spot. So much young talent. They could be a serious contender really soon.
6. St. Louis - They'll probably make it but I think there's a good chance they don't so gently caress it.
7. Minnesota - Getting old and their young guys are mediocre compared to the rest of the division.

Pacific

1. Los Angeles - Still pretty good unfortunately.
2. San Jose - Probably enough there for another run to the WCF.
3. Anaheim - Man the West sucks. I wan't to drop them but lol @ this division.
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4. Calgary - Close but no cigar. Sign Gaudreau you retards.
5. Edmonton - McDavid might win the scoring title but there's just not enough after him.
6. Arizona - Probably two years away. It's going to be weird when Edmonton/Arizona/Calgary supplant LA/SJ/ANA but it's going to be soon.
7. Vancouver - :(

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Tampa Bay def Nashville
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Pittsburgh

AWARDS
Hart: Sidney Crosby
Richard: Vladimir Tarasenko
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Carey Price
Norris: Victor Hedman
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Anze Kopitar
Lady Byng: Johnny Gaudreau
Jack Adams: Peter Laviolette

TEAMS
Most Improved Team Winnipeg
Team With Biggest Fall Minnesota
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Columbus
Most Goals Allowed: Vancouver
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 24-21-45
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25-31-56
Most Improved Player, West: Nathan MacKinnon
Most Improved Player, East: Tyler Johnson
First Coach Fired: Mike Yeo
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: MAF
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: :(

T-Bone fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Oct 3, 2016

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - they are really good
2. Florida - I like the moves they have made and while Jagr might eventually stop performing at a high level, their young guys are still good
3. Montreal - Carey Price I guess
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4. Boston (WC) - they have a pretty bad defense but some good forwards and a good goalie. Enough for a wild card
5. Detroit - very mediocre team and trending down IMO.
6. Toronto - not enough talent yet but on their way.
7. Ottawa - Karlsson is on an island
8. Buffalo - not yet.

Metropolitan

1. Washington - good center depth with the Eller addition, good wing depth, pretty good defensive depth (though no real stud #1 guy), and a good goalie.
2. Pittsburgh - great team, but I'll just assume their roster explodes during the regular season which will put them at #2 instead of #1 in the division. Probably still a slightly better team than Washington.
3. Philadelphia - they really improved last season and while their depth isn't very good, they still have good high end talent on forward and I guess Mason is a good goalie now?
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4. NY Rangers (WC) - Henrik Lundqvist I guess. If his play drops or he is injured though I think the Rangers will miss the playoffs.
5. Carolina - still struggle to score and their goaltending situation stinks but their defense is rock solid and I like Bill Peters. I think they could easily overtake the Rangers for the WC if a few things go their way.
6. New Jersey - Hall for Larsson was criminal but I still think they are going to struggle to score.
7. NY Islanders - Fred Flintstone is still behind the bench, and while other teams in the division got better I don't really think the Islanders did.
8. Columbus - bad coach, horrible contracts. Maybe they'll luck out and get #6 in the division but right now they are the clear worst team in the Metro.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Dallas - still have bad goaltending, still can score a billion goals. Good enough for #1 in the division
2. Nashville - everything about this team is great...except Pekka Rinne.
3. Minnesota - Bruce Boudreau is a fantastic regular season coach. There's nothing about their roster that makes me think they are a playoff team but Boudreau is just so good behind the bench.
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4. St. Louis (WC) - probably not as good as last season but good enough to make the playoffs as a WC.
5. Chicago (WC) - barely squeak into the playoffs. In any other division they are probably a top 3 team but the central is stacked.
6. Winnipeg - they'll still be decent but the division is too tough.
7. Colorado - they will be much better simply because they subtracted Patrick Roy, but their defense is still really bad.

Pacific

1. Los Angeles - they are going to bore their way to the division title
2. San Jose - could be #1 in the division just as easily.
3. Calgary - their goaltending will improve enough to get them into the playoffs. Also while Gulutzan isn't great, he's better than Bob Hartley.
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4. Arizona - improved, but still not good enough to make the playoffs.
5. Anaheim - lol Randy Carlyle.
6. Edmonton - still bad.
7. Vancouver - probably the most depressing team in the NHL. Sorry Canucks fans.

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Washington def. Los Angeles
WCF: Los Angeles def. Nashville
ECF: Washington def. Tampa Bay

AWARDS
Hart: Crosby
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: McDavid
Vezina: Lundqvist
Norris: Karlsson
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Bergeron
Lady Byng: who gives a poo poo
Jack Adams: Boudreau

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Montreal
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: NY Islanders
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Calgary
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 24-25-49
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25-37-62
Most Improved Player, West: dunno
Most Improved Player, East: Drouin
First Coach Fired: Jack Capuano
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Rick Nash
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 1
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 3

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

I'll do an effortpost in a bit because I'm still trying to figure out who I feel like goes where, but I'm surprised to see so many "fewest goals" votes for Columbus. They were 17th in goals scored last season and were one of the first two teams to get four 20+ goal scorers last year (Chicago was the other). :confused:

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

CBJSprague24 posted:

I'll do an effortpost in a bit because I'm still trying to figure out who I feel like goes where, but I'm surprised to see so many "fewest goals" votes for Columbus. They were 17th in goals scored last season and were one of the first two teams to get four 20+ goal scorers last year (Chicago was the other). :confused:
Those numbers can fluctuate a lot year by year; Vancouver went from 6th to 29th without major injuries and their only big personnel loss being Nick Bonino. Teams can be really bunched up in that spot, they lose 22 goals and they're behind Carolina and Toronto last year for 3rd worst. They just don't have a good looking group of forwards, and most of the teams behind them (i.e. Buffalo, Toronto, Edmonton, New Jersey) seem to have more obvious improvements coming to their offense. Vancouver's the only other team that's been predicted.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Those numbers can fluctuate a lot year by year; Vancouver went from 6th to 29th without major injuries and their only big personnel loss being Nick Bonino. Teams can be really bunched up in that spot, they lose 22 goals and they're behind Carolina and Toronto last year for 3rd worst. They just don't have a good looking group of forwards, and most of the teams behind them (i.e. Buffalo, Toronto, Edmonton, New Jersey) seem to have more obvious improvements coming to their offense. Vancouver's the only other team that's been predicted.

That and Torts can kill an offense like no other

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I'm surprised at people picking Vancouver for dead last/fewest goals. Part of my frustration with them is that signings like Eriksson are gonna keep them out of the basement but nowhere near a playoff spot.

Anton Rodin is cool, though.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - Self-explanatory. This is really the only mortal lock I have for the Atlantic.
2. Florida - I think 2-4 on this list could shuffle around a bit. I don't have much to say about Florida other than that I think they'll be worse than Tampa but probably better than the rest of the division.
3. Boston - Defense is bad but Rask has a major bounce-back year, and they have an excellent group of forwards even after losing Eriksson.
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4. Montreal - Like I said, things could shuffle so I really just have them at 4 for now because I like the Bruins more. They pick up a wild card because the Metro eats itself alive. (WC)
5. Buffalo - Sabres are much improved despite kind of a lovely defense and goaltending. I think they miss a wild card spot but not by much. I could see any of the teams in spots 5-8 ending up in any of those spots.
6. Detroit - Old and trending downward.
7. Toronto - A lot of exciting young players, but it's not their time yet. Improving from 69 points to ~80 is a distinct step forward.
8. Ottawa - Garbage. Sorry, Karlsson.

Metropolitan

1. Washington - Not much to say. Deep everywhere, the best goal scorer in the NHL, hard to pick against them
2. Pittsburgh - I don't really have much to say here either.
3. Philadelphia - Actually having a decent defense and goaltending for what seems like the first time in forever helps them secure a wild card spot more handily than last year when it was as the 8th seed. Would not surprise me if they had more points than the 3rd best team in the Atlantic.
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4. New York Rangers (WC) - I think Team 2nd Line Forward has a good season but barely makes it in.
5. New York Islanders - They lost a lot of depth this summer. The team is still good, but they struggle early and don't recover.
6. Carolina - I think they just barely miss the playoffs this year, like by 4 or 5 points. They've been trending up and they have a really well built team for the future, but I don't think they're quite there yet, and the goaltending is rear end.
7. New Jersey - Taylor Hall definitely helps but I don't see them ahead of any of the teams I have at 1-7. They might even be worse than Columbus.
8. Columbus - Not much to say here in the exact opposite way that I meant for Washington. They need a lot to go well for them to move up. It's weird since they seem decent on paper but, eh.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville - Monster defense. Solid forwards. Good goaltending.
2. Dallas - Monster offense, crap defense, crap goaltending. But that offense...
3. Chicago - I think they narrowly edge out Minnesota for this spot. Like with the Atlantic, I think there's some degree of interchangeability with 3-5 in this division.
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4. Minnesota (WC) - Bruce Boudreau is a great coach, it's a reasonably solid roster.
5. St. Louis (WC) - Shockingly, they nearly miss the playoffs after having 107 points last year. Shattenkirk gets traded during the season and David Backes turns out to have been the glue that held these guys together.
6. Colorado - With a new coach who isn't a moron, they make some strides forward, but still fall flat.
7. Winnipeg - I don't think they're bad necessarily, the division is just very tough.

Pacific

1. San Jose - Cup finalists, solid roster.
2. Los Angeles - Another solid roster all-around but it's tough losing Lucic and Gaborik (temporarily) to start the season, they start slow but ultimately finish safely in the playoffs.
3. Calgary - This is the biggest jump for me, but they have a good team put together and an actual goaltender now.
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4. Anaheim - Randy at the helm takes the Ducks back a step and they miss the drat playoffs, and barely finish ahead of the Oilers
5. Edmonton - Connor McDavid proves he's the best player in the world but it's not enough to get them over the hump yet.
6. Arizona - This is actually a fall backwards in the standings for them, but I think they'll be better than that result seems.
7. Vancouver - Does anything really need to be said about this garbage fire of a team?

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Tampa Bay def. Nashville - third time's the charm for Tampa
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Washington

AWARDS
Hart: McDavid
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: McDavid
Vezina: Rask
Norris: Karlsson
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Bergeron
Lady Byng: I dunno. Kopitar again. Who cares.
Jack Adams:

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Toronto, by virtue of being dog poo poo last year and improving by 12-14 this year to the low 80s
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Calgary
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: St. Louis
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Ottawa
Least Goals Allowed: Tampa Bay

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 22-34-56
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 26-38-64
Most Improved Player, West: That guy from Calgary. Bennett?
Most Improved Player, East: Jonathan Drouin
First Coach Fired: Whoever coaches the Islanders
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Marc-Andre Fleury
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 3
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 2

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
You think McDavid will get the Hart with the Oilers missing the playoffs? I don't see that unless he blows away the competition points-wise, and there's too many good scorers on likely playoff teams (Kane, Sid, Seguin, etc) for me to think that will happen.

Your Minny placement is interesting though. I have them missing the playoffs but I did just take a step back to think about it now that you reminded me Boudreau is their coach. I just still think their roster is questionable.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I think McDavid wins the scoring title by a solid 10-15 points and the media trips over their boners to anoint him as the new chosen one, ignoring the fact that they miss the playoffs

Minnesota is getting older but it's still, in my opinion, a good roster and they have an excellent coach. They have a lot of interesting guys who are 24 and younger too (Dumba, Granlund, Neiderreiter, Coyle). It's definitely a weird team though, and when their older guys start to retire I think they're going to fall off a cliff. The younger players are promising but none seem like stars, just great complementary pieces to their has-been stars. In a way they remind me of the Rangers in that it's kind of a team of 2nd line forwards, but with a less talented goaltender.

Jamwad Hilder fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 4, 2016

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Minnesota's a weird fuckin' team. They don't exactly suck at anything but they don't really excel anywhere either. They're pretty sound defensively, not the greatest offense but seem to hold up alright. They were smart to immediately jump on Boudreau and I could see them snagging the first WC pretty easily, but likely not go higher than that.

checksin
Nov 23, 2006

I joined the new sensation, the #RXT REVOLUTION~!

:chillout:

he knows...
my only prediction is that the ottawa senators will waste another year of erik karlsson's career and finish middle of the pack, making just enough money to sustain eugene's life force indefinitely

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - Theyre going to bounce back, that roster is too young and good still
2. Florida - Have a good year, not the greatest, but the Atlantic is garbage so second place is easily attained
3. Boston - See above
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4. Detroit - Older, slower, Abdelkader
5. Buffalo - Getting there, slowly
6. Ottawa - Karlsson puts out another Norris caliber season but its wasted because Melnyk
7. Toronto - Forwards good, defense spotty, :lol:tending
8. Montreal - Price injures himself in the first game, speculation is he did it on purpose. Therrien.

Metropolitan

1. Washington - Still good at pretty much everything, same as last year
2. NY Rangers - Made some good and bad moves, benefit from Lundqvist having his last best season
3. Pittsburgh - Cup hangover + injury bug keep them outside the top 3 most of the season followed by a late push
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4. Philly (WC1) - Made some good moves but still have some dead weight that prevents them from being truly competitive (spots 4-6 are going to be tight as hell here)
5. Carolina (WC2) - Steadily improving and shedding all the dumb contracts the had for some good prospects and youth
6. NY Islanders - Stepped back a bit over the summer, could struggle to get in if Capuano isnt fired
7. New Jersey - Still old and slow and bad at goals, but they are clearly moving away from that model. Still not a great year (sorry Schneids)
8. Columbus - The John Tortorella Effect

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Dallas - All the goals (for and against, Presidents winner)
2. Nashville - Probably the best D in the league now and have actual scoring lines to boot, we get old good Rinne this year
3. St.Louis - Relying heavily on some young guys to step up, may or may not happen
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4. Chicago (WC1) - Getting older and changes happening less frequently in a division that keeps getting better
5. Winnipeg (WC2) - Pavelec out, Hellebyuck in, tons of good young players make up for a very shallow D
6. Minnesota - Not good at anything, but not bad at anything, Boudreau uses this season to tinker with things and figure out who needs to stay or go
7. Colorado - I feel bad putting them here even though they got better, the Central is loving brutal

Pacific

1. San Jose - Basically the same team as last year, still very good
2. Los Angeles - I hate them, but they will bore their way to second in the division
3. Arizona - competent management, good coaching, and a surprisingly good year form their rookies shoots them up the shittiest division
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4. Anaheim - barely miss the playoffs, but do so because Carlyle
5. Calgary - Hard to gauge, could replace Arizona as the 3 seed if goaltending works out
6. Edmonton - McDavid cant plug all the holes in this ship, but does a good enough job to keep them from the bottom
7. Vancouver - Sedins demand a trade and Im so sorry Canucks fans :(

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Florida def. Nashville
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Florida def. Washington

AWARDS are dumb

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Buffalo
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Montreal
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Arizona
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: New Jersey
Most Goals Allowed: Dallas
Least Goals Allowed: Washington

OTHER STUFF
First Coach Fired: Desjardins
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Winnipeg
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Pacioretty (because Montreal is dumb)
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 1
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 5

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Boston

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4. Detroit
5. Buffalo
6. Toronto
7. Ottawa
8. Montreal

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. New York Islanders
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4. New York Rangers (Wild Card)
5. New Jersey (Wild Card)

6. Philadelphia
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. St. Louis
3. Dallas
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4. Chicago (Wild Card)
5. Winnipeg (Wild Card)

6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. Los Angeles
3. Calgary

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4. Anaheim
5. Arizona
6. Edmonton
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Tampa Bay
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Washington

AWARDS
Hart: Subban
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: Subban
Vezina: Holtby
Norris: Subban
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Toews
Lady Byng: Gaudreau?
Jack Adams: Laviolette

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Buffalo
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: New York Rangers
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Calgary
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Minnesota
Most Goals Scored: Washington
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Columbus
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 20-26-46
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25-30-55
Most Improved Player, West: Parayko
Most Improved Player, East: Drouin
First Coach Fired: Desjardins
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Patrick Sharp?
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 6

Mike_V fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 5, 2016

Ceyton
Oct 9, 2004

YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!
YOU'RE DEAD ARMITAGE!

:emo::regd08::emo::regd08::emo:

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Boston
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4. Detroit (WC)
5. Buffalo
6. Ottawa
7. Toronto
8. Montreal

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. NY Rangers
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4. New Jersey (WC)
5. Philadelphia
6. NY Islanders
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. St. Louis
3. Chicago
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4. Dallas (WC)
5. Colorado (WC)
6. Minnesota
7. Winnipeg

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. Los Angeles
3. Anaheim
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4. Arizona
5. Calgary
6. Vancouver
7. Edmonton

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Pittsburgh
WCF: Nashville def. San Jose
ECF: Pittsburgh def. Washington

AWARDS
Hart: Taylor Hall
Richard: Alex Ovechkin
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Pekka Rinne
Norris: Pernell Subban
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Anze Kopitar
Lady Byng: Connor McDavid
Jack Adams: Peter Laviolette

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: New Jersey
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: NY Islanders
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Nashville
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Dallas
Most Goals Scored: Washington
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Nashville

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 25/25/50
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 20/30/50
Most Improved Player, West: dunno
Most Improved Player, East: Jonathan Drouin
First Coach Fired: John Tortorella
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Marc-Andre Fleury I guess
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 2

:emo::regd08::emo::regd08::emo:

Ceyton fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 6, 2016

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

So I'll prefix my lovely predictions by saying that on average 5 teams that failed to make the playoffs last season make it the next season, so that's what I tried basing my predictions on.

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - They are very, very, very good.
2. Florida - Mostly young team that's still improving.
3. Montreal - Carey Price is gonna save Therrien's job, yo.
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4. Boston (WC2) - Marchand continues to be good, Rask has a better season and they edge out the Flyers for the final WC spot.
5. Detroit - Their playoff streak comes to an end as the era of playoffless mediocrity begins.
6. Toronto - A better and younger roster that, while it still sucks, will manage to avoid finishing last.
7. Ottawa - Erik Karlsson can only do so much for this team.
8. Buffalo - They take a step back in their rebuilding efforts this season.

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh (President's Trophy winners) - Hard to bet against them when everything's gone right for them since they fired Mike Johnston and hired Mike Sullivan.
2. Washington - If it wasn't for Pittsburgh, they'd probably win the President's Trophy again.
3. NY Islanders - Tavares continues to drag this team into the playoffs despite Capuano not being the sharpest coach out there.
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4. New Jersey (WC1) - Hall ends up being the offensive catalyst for their playoff return.
5. Philadelphia - Not sold on them being a playoff team again this season. Maybe next season?
6. NY Rangers - Poor Lundqvist, taken down by the anchors called Dan Girardi and Marc Staal.
7. Carolina - They're on the up and up, problem is their goaltending consists of Eddie Lack and Cam loving Ward.
8. Columbus - Grit only takes you so far.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville (#1 team in the West) - They're an improved team and Pekka Rinne bouncing back after a below-average season will help them beat out the rest of the Central.
2. St. Louis - They're still a good team even if they lost some players.
3. Minnesota - Boudreau's regular season magic continues to work, this time on the Wild
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4. Chicago (WC1) - Kane and Panarin don't have as good of a season as teams manage to shut them down, but Crawford ends up dragging the team into a WC spot.
5. Colorado (WC2) - De-Roy-ifying the team ends up leading to a playoff birth.
6. Dallas - Offense ends up not being as good this season, goaltending implodes and Jim Nill can't fix it because nobody wants to take Lehtonen or Niemi back.
7. Winnipeg - Still a young team that's growing, but with no Trouba, their defense suddenly looks very suspect. Plus Pavelec is still a Jet.

Pacific

1. San Jose - Easily the best out of a bad division, slight edge to them over LA
2. Los Angeles - Easily the 2nd best out of a bad division
3. Arizona - My rationale for this basically comes down to "They're not a Pacific Canadian team" (which all suck) and "Need some team to get lucky and make the playoffs"
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4. Anaheim - Carlyle manages to drag the team from 1st in the Pacific 4 years in a row to out of a playoff spot.
5. Calgary - Not sold on Elliott as a starter, plus Gulutzen, although an upgrade on Hartley, still sucks.
6. Vancouver - It's okay, Jim Benning made the playoffs in NHL 17 with the Canucks, so he knows they're still a good team.
7. Edmonton - Even McDavid can't save us.

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Tampa Bay defeats Nashville in 6 (bonus: this SCF will have the lowest TV ratings ever)
WCF: Nashville defeats San Jose in 6
ECF: Tampa Bay defeats Washington in 7

AWARDS
Hart: Sidney Crosby
Richard: Alex Ovechkin
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Carey Price
Norris: Shea Weber
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Anze Kopitar
Lady Byng: Ryan O'Reilly
Jack Adams: Dave Tippett

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Montreal
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: NY Rangers
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Arizona
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Dallas
Most Goals Scored: Pittsburgh
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Montreal

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 25/35/60
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 20/32/52 (in 65 GP)
Most Improved Player, West: Pekka Rinne
Most Improved Player, East: Jonathan Drouin
First Coach Fired: Alain Vigneault
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Matt Murray
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 3
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 5

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - The onlt elite team in an otherwise underwhemlimg as hell division
2. Florida - Good young talent that's only getting better
3. Detroit - Mrazek and their scoring will drag them kicking and screaming into the playoffs. Kinda like the 2013-14 Flyers, really.
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4. Montreal - Assuming Price can stay healthy, they could contend for that #3 spot. Trading Subban for Weber hurts, though.
5. Boston - Somehow they manage to say in it every year, but that defence is pretty bad.
6. Buffalo - Decent core of young talent but they desperately need scoring and goaltending.
7. Toronto - Showed promise at the end of last year, but still a few years from playoff contention.
8. Ottawa - Erik Karlsson and a bunch of trash.

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh - The roster is virtually the same as last year and now they get a full of Matt Murray. gently caress.
2. Washington - Holtby regresses back to slightly less gaudy numbers, but they're still a really good team.
3. Philadelphia - Hakstol's system is in place, Provorov makes the blue line better, and they have a fantastic goalie tandem.
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4. NY Rangers (WC1) - Hank is amazing, but the rest of the roster is amazingly average
5. NY Islanders (WC2) - They're too inconsistent and really haven't built around Tavares as much as they should.
6. Carolina - Very easily could sneak in to a wild card spot, but Cam Ward will probably gently caress it up.
7. Columbus - Bob's healthy and their D looks solid, but they're still really lacking in centre depth.
8. New Jersey - Got away with robbery in the Hall/Larsson trade, but still needs more scoring.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville - As odd as it sounds, the weak link here might be Pekka Rinne. Thankfully their already great D got even better with Subban.
2. Chicago - Still waiting for that cap crunch to affect them.
3. St. Louis - This is probably their last good shot at the Cup, since I'm guessing Shattenkirk's gone after this season.
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4. Dallas (WC1) - Their garbage goaltending holds them back, but not enough to miss the playoffs.
5. Winnipeg (WC2) - Hellebuyck gets the starting job by X-mas.
6. Minnesota - Boudreau's system will take a bit to catch on, and this roster isn't getting any younger.
7. Colorado - They should be better with Roy gone, but the rest of the division is a lot better.

Pacific

1. San Jose - Martin Jones established himself as a legit #1, and the offence is still scary good.
2. Los Angeles - Same ol' boring Kings.
3. Calgary - All they were missing was goaltending, and lookit that they just got Brian Elliott.
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4. Anaheim - Randy Carlyle
5. Edmonton - That defence is still a loving dumpster fire, but a healthy McDavid all season should make them competitive
6. Arizona - Uh.........see.................uh.....................yes.
7. Vancouver - Jim Benning, ladies and gentlemen.

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Tampa Bay
WCF: Nashville def. Los Angeles
ECF: Tampa Bay def. Pittsburgh

AWARDS
Hart: Crosbot 8700
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: Connor McDavid
Vezina: Ben Bishop
Norris: SAS Hockey Waifu PK Subban
Calder: Ivan Provorov
Selke: Sean Couturier
Lady Byng: Who gives a poo poo?
Jack Adams: Whoever the gently caress the coach in Calgary is

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Columbus
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Washington
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Calgary
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Dallas
Least Goals Allowed: Los Angeles

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 22-30-52
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 25-36-61
Most Improved Player, West: Mikhail Grigorenko
Most Improved Player, East: Jake Voracek
First Coach Fired: Michel ThAHAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT LIKE THAT'LL HAPPEN. Probably Jack Capuano. Maybe.
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Matt Murray :getin:
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 2
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 1, and he'll shoot it in off of Ryan Miller's butt

Infidel Castro fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Oct 6, 2016

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Ottawa
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4. Montreal
5. Boston
6. Buffalo
7. Detroit
8. Toronto

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Philadelphia
--------------------
4. Rangers
5. Islanders
6. New Jersey
7. Columbus
8. Carolina

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. Dallas
3. St. Louis
--------------------
4. Chicago
5. Winnipeg
6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. LA
3. Calgary
--------------------
4. Edmonton
5. Anaheim
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Washington def. San Jose
WCF: San Josedef. Nashville
ECF: Washington def. Tampa

AWARDS
Hart: Crosby
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: McDavid
Vezina: Price
Norris: Hedman
Calder: Connor
Selke: Bergeron
Lady Byng: McDavid
Jack Adams: Laviolette

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Ottawa
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Winnipeg
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Minnesota
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Carolina
Most Goals Allowed: Detroit
Least Goals Allowed: LA

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 25-22- 47
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 20- 32 - 52
Most Improved Player, West: Eberle
Most Improved Player, East: Nash
First Coach Fired: Therrien
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: best forward available
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 2
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 1
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 27

darkwolf220
May 14, 2009

SOON :stare:

I am confused about the need of the '1st' player chosen by the Las Vegas team in an expansion draft. It isn't really much of a 'draft' in the sense that pick order matters because they aren't drafting against other teams. Wouldn't they just submit an alphabetical list of all the people they want that were unprotected? So they might select MAF first and Tanner Glass last, but it doesn't matter because it isn't like they have to pick MAF first to keep another team from taking him.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

OK the first chosen player's name to come out of the mouth of ~*The Creator*~ if you want to be pedantic about it!

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

darkwolf220 posted:

I am confused about the need of the '1st' player chosen by the Las Vegas team in an expansion draft. It isn't really much of a 'draft' in the sense that pick order matters because they aren't drafting against other teams. Wouldn't they just submit an alphabetical list of all the people they want that were unprotected? So they might select MAF first and Tanner Glass last, but it doesn't matter because it isn't like they have to pick MAF first to keep another team from taking him.

Normally in expansion there's more than one new team coming in so it does matter but yeah in this case I guess not.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
The old expansion rules were that they had to pick goaltenders first, then defensemen, then forwards. I don't think that's the case this time? They'll probably announce the highest profile guy first.

Buane
Nov 28, 2005

When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Toronto
--------------------
4. Montreal (WC)
5. Boston
6. Detroit
7. Buffalo
8. Ottawa

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh
2. Washington
3. NY Islanders
--------------------
4. NY Rangers (WC)
5. New Jersey
6. Carolina
7. Philadelphia
8. Columbus



WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. St. Louis
2. Dallas
3. Nashville
--------------------
4. Chicago (WC)
5. Minnesota (WC)
6. Winnipeg
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. Los Angeles
2. San Jose
3. Anaheim
--------------------
4. Edmonton
5. Arizona
6. Calgary
7. Vancouver


WCF: Dallas def. San Jose

ECF: Pittsburgh def. Tampa Bay

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Pittsburgh def. Dallas




AWARDS
Hart: Crosby
Richard: Crosby
Art Ross: Crosby
Vezina: Lundqvist
Norris: Karlsson
Calder: McDavid
Selke: Bergeron
Lady Byng: Gaudreau
Jack Adams: Babcock

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




:laugh: at all these people picking Montreal to make the playoffs.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain
i used a random sequence generator to make this. and coinflips for every playoff series. neither were weighted at all. i may do a real one at a later date

ATLANTIC
2. Tampa Bay Lightning
9. Boston Bruins
18. Detroit Red Wings
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20. Florida Panthers
21. Ottawa Senators
24. Montreal Canadiens
28. Buffalo Sabres
30. Toronto Maple Leafs

METROPOLITAN
3. Carolina Hurricanes
6. New York Rangers
8. Washington Capitals
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10. New York Islanders (WC1)
13. Columbus Blue Jackets (WC2)
19. Philadelphia Flyers
23. Pittsburgh Penguins
26. New Jersey Devils

CENTRAL
1. Dallas Stars
7. Chicago Blackhawks
11. Nashville Predators
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12. Minnesota Wild (WC1)
15. St. Louis Blues (WC2)
22. Colorado Avalance
25. Winnipeg Jets

PACIFIC
4. Anaheim Ducks
5. Los Angeles Kings
14. San Jose Sharks
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16. Edmonton Oilers
17. Arizona Coyotes
27. Calgary Flames
29. Vancouver Canucks

WCF: Kings over Stars
ECF: Hurricanes over Jackets
SCF: Hurricanes over Kings

:shrug:

fits fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Oct 7, 2016

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


fits posted:

ECF: Hurricanes over Jackets

this would be goddamn amazingly bad and I would watch every moment of it

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay- Still scary good.
2. Florida- Lots of potential, combined with a division that's lacking therein.
3. Boston- I feel like either Boston gets in or...
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4. Detroit- ...finds a way to keep their streak alive, thus keeping Holland and company employed another year despite a first-round exit.
5. Ottawa- I've got nothing.
6. Montreal- The political dispatching of Subban to Nashville, plus HAS' visible frustration, does not bode well.
7. Buffalo- Yes, the Sabres...ah...um...yes.
8. Toronto- I don't know, man.

It's the two Florida teams and then a logjam of "I have no idea" winding up in Toronto.

Metropolitan

1. Washington- Too good.
2. Pittsburgh- Will cool off a little, but still be very good.
3. NY Rangers- Henrik Lundqvist.
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4. Philadelphia (WC)- I think they can piece together another run to the playoffs. The race for the bubble will be between they and the:
5. NY Islanders (WC)- Who I'm not really sure on.
6. Columbus- Healthy :cop:, potential for four or more 20+ goal scorers, and improved defense makes Columbus better than most people think, and people are disappointed Tortorella isn't a complete, unabashed failure. Not sure it gets them higher than I've given them credit for, though, and it'll probably be another season in the purgatory between the playoffs and a good pick.
7. New Jersey- Hall will help, but they don't strike me as improved beyond that.
8. Carolina- Did they do anything other than extend Ward for some reason?

Washington wins another Metro crown only to suffer a heartbreaking elimination somewhere in the playoffs. Probably to Pittsburgh. Or the Rangers. Actually, yeah, it'll be the Rags because it's mandatory that they have a series each year.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Chicago- It's the Hawks
2. Nashville- Still probably good. Rinne might be a liability, though.
3. St. Louis- One for the Hitch.
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4. Dallas (WC)- Stars are going to do what they did and what I think Columbus was hoping to last season- score all the goals and hope the other team doesn't exploit the questionable defense to score more goals and make the playoffs.
5. Minnesota (WC)- Then the Wild get in, I guess? :confused:
6. Winnipeg- I don't know anything about them other than Trouba Trouble.
7. Colorado- Good luck, Jared Bednar. Thanks for the Calder Cup.

Pacific

1. San Jose- A good team, both literally and emotionally.
2. Los Angeles- gently caress The King. Still solid, though.
3. Anaheim- In spite of Randy Carlyle, Anaheim gets in because of the other teams in the division.
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4. Calgary- I forgot about Brian Elliott. Maybe that helps them.
5. Arizona- They...yes, this is a hockey team.
6. Vancouver- I'm going to laugh if Torts' Jackets outpoint Desjardins' Canucks.
7. Edmonton- Poor Oiler fans.

STANLEY CUP FINALS: TBL def. CHI
WCF: CHI def. SJS
ECF: TBL def. WSH

AWARDS
Hart: Ovechkin
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: Crosby
Vezina: Holtby
Norris: Subban
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Giroux? I have no clue.
Lady Byng: Wennberg
Jack Adams: Sullivan, for another heroic campaign in leading one of the best teams in the league out of the doldrums of Fall 2015 into another playoff run.

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Philadelphia
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Calgary
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Minnesota
Most Goals Scored: Chicago
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Washington

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 19-21-40
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 23-25-48
Most Improved Player, West: Marian Gaborik
Most Improved Player, East: Sam Gagner
First Coach Fired: Jack Capuano
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Calgary
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: MAF
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: I misread this question at first until I got it. I will take 2.
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 2
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 1
Number of Teams Who Make The Playoffs Thanks To Bettman .500 Despite Being Under Actual .500: 2

clean ayers act
Aug 13, 2007

How do I shot puck!?
EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Montreal
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4. Boston
5. Ottawa
6. Detroit
7. Toronto
8. Buffalo

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Philadelphia
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4. NYI (WC)
5. NYR(WC)
6. New Jersey
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. Dallas
3. St. Louis
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4. Chicago (WC)
5. Minnesota (WC)
6. Colorado
7. Winnipeg

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. Los Angeles
3. Anaheim
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4. Calgary
5. Edmonton
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Pittsburgh Def. Chicago
WCF: Chicago def Nashville
ECF: Pittsburgh def. Florida

AWARDS
Hart: Sidney Crosby
Richard: Jamie Benn
Art Ross: Sidney Crosby
Vezina: Ben Bishop
Norris: Drew Doughty
Calder: Auston Matthews
Selke: Anze Kopitar
Lady Byng: Connor McDavid
Jack Adams: Dave Hakstol

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Montreal
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Nashville
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Vancouver
Most Goals Scored: Washington
Least Goals Scored: Detroit
Most Goals Allowed: Edmonton
Least Goals Allowed: Nashville

Mr. Kite
Aug 28, 2004

SHUT UP AND PLAY HOCKEY
They should add the unprotected players to the entry draft and let all 31 teams draft them. Brand new NHL!

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Mr. Kite posted:

They should add the unprotected players to the entry draft and let all 31 teams draft them. Brand new NHL!

they actually used to do something kind of like this

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/longing-for-the-old-school-waiver-draft/

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay - they do really have no weaknesses
2. Florida - they improved a lot on a back end and their young core rules
3. Boston - still think Julien, Rask, and the offense will be good enough
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4. Montreal (WC) - they'll have enough with Price healthy
5. Detroit - every year I hear the doom and gloom from fans; they'll miss the playoffs this year but it won't be a disaster year like everyone thinks
6. Ottawa - they'll have a good offense again and it'll be enough to push them ahead of the bottom 2
7. Toronto - they will be competitive and will have a good first half but can't see them getting too close to the playoffs; wouldn't be shocked to see them ahead of Ottawa and Detroit, though
8. Buffalo - they won't be much better and have a lot of work to do

Metropolitan

1. Pittsburgh - depends on Crosby's brains a little, but they will be very formidable again
2. Washington - they could be first again, but they're definitely the top two teams with the Pens; after these two it gets really hard
3. NY Rangers - they'll probably make a trade to improve the defense, but Hank and the depth at forward will put them about where they were last year
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4. Philadelphia (WC) - love the changes they've made since Holmgren and Voracek is gonna bounce back
5. NY Islanders - Capuano might get fired this year; they're supposed to take another step but the youth needs to be nurtured better; they'll score a lot of goals but be inconsistent, much like last year, leading to significant chances next season
6. New Jersey - Schneider, being faster, and the extra 30 goals from Hall will make them basically as competitive as they were last year, but that defense is going to prevent them from making a real push
7. Carolina - in a year or two, they're going to be much better; they have a seriously underrated core of prospects and young players, but the goaltending and lack of offense is still a big concern
8. Columbus - things could go pretty well for them if their kids step up, but Tortorella is a piece of poo poo and they're gonna go through some growing pains

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville - they're going to win the President's Trophy this year, especially if Rinne bounces back
2. Chicago - the usual
3. Dallas - the usual; after these 3 it gets tough
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4. Minnesota (WC) - their roster will be elevated by Bruce
5. St. Louis (WC) - they're on the decline a bit but their roster is still very good
6. Colorado - they are going to score a lot of goals and have a better season; could be a surprise playoff team
7. Winnipeg - they are gonna rule in 3 years but right now they're gonna have a difficult time

Pacific

1. San Jose - they have unfinished business
2. Los Angeles - still very good
3. Calgary - they get back in just because they now have an average goaltender
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4. Anaheim - Carlyle is garbage but their roster is too good to fall terribly; could easily make the playoffs
5. Arizona - their kids look amazing but they have a year or two to go
6. Vancouver - it's them and Edmonton in a race for the bottom
7. Edmonton - McDavid alone is going to win them games but the roster is still a dumpster fire, especially without Hall

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Philadelphia (!)
WCF: Nashville def. San Jose
ECF: Philadelphia def. Tampa Bay

AWARDS
Hart: Ovechkin
Richard: Ovechkin
Art Ross: McDavid
Vezina: Price
Norris: Subban
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Barkov
Lady Byng: Kane
Jack Adams: Boudreau

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Toronto
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Detroit
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Minnesota
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Anaheim
Most Goals Scored: Dallas
Least Goals Scored: Buffalo
Most Goals Allowed: Winnipeg
Least Goals Allowed: San Jose

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 26-21-47
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 24-30-54
Most Improved Player, West: Nathan MacKinnon
Most Improved Player, East: Jakub Voracek
First Coach Fired: John Tortorella
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Montreal
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Marc-Andre Fleury
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Devils: 33
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Predators: 18
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 0

Also to the guy who says the Devils are still old and slow, have you looked at the lineup since Lou left? All those guys are out.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Brodeurs Nanny posted:

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Philadelphia (!)
WCF: Nashville def. San Jose
ECF: Philadelphia def. Tampa Bay

This would be the SCF that would break me.

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
gently caress it


EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Toronto
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4. Boston
5. Detroit
6. Ottawa
7. Montreal
8. Buffalo

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. New Jersey
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4. Philadelphia (WC)
5. Islanders (WC)
6. Rangers
7. Carolina
8. Columbus

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. Chicago
3. St. Louis
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4. Dallas (WC)
5. Winnipeg (WC)
6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. Anaheim
3. Los Angeles
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4. Phoenix
5. Calgary
6. Edmonton
7. Vancouver

STANLEY CUP FINALS: Nashville def. Washington
WCF: Nashville def. San Jose
ECF: Washington def. Florida

AWARDS
Hart: McDavid
Richard: Tarasenko
Art Ross: McDavid
Vezina: Holtby
Norris: Karlsson
Calder: Matthews
Selke: Bergeron
Lady Byng: O'Reilly
Jack Adams: Tippett

TEAMS
Most Improved Team (Points), EAST: Toronto
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), EAST: Rangers
Most Improved Team (Points), WEST: Nashville
Team With Biggest Fall (Points), WEST: Vancouver, who will finish with 20 pts
Most Goals Scored: Washington
Least Goals Scored: Vancouver
Most Goals Allowed: Dallas
Least Goals Allowed: Nashville

OTHER STUFF
Goals-Assists-Points for Patrik Laine: 21-24-45
Goals-Assists-Points for Auston Matthews: 28-36-64
Most Improved Player, West: Anthony Duclair
Most Improved Player, East: Andre Burakovsky
First Coach Fired: Jack Capuano
Least Embarrassing Canadian Team By Points: Toronto (96)
First player to be picked by Las Vegas in the expansion draft: Ryan Miller if he doesn't have an NMC or some similar used-to-be-good goalie if he does
Number of Goals that Taylor Hall will score on the Oilers: 0. 36 on the Devils
Number of Goals that PK Subban will score on the Habs: 0. 16 on the Predators
Number of Goals Luca Sbisa will score on the Canucks: 2

i'm lowballing the rangers as hard as i can in the hope that they exceed these meager expectations but i would like for them to do significantly better than that

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
lmao nearly everybody had Columbus dead last in the Metro.

We're awful at this.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

My favorite thing is when I forget about these threads for months, then looking at the first unread post.

A Typical Goon posted:

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Atlantic

1. Tampa Bay
2. Florida
3. Ottawa
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4. Montreal
5. Boston
6. Buffalo
7. Detroit
8. Toronto

Metropolitan

1. Washington
2. Pittsburgh
3. Philadelphia
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4. Rangers
5. Islanders
6. New Jersey
7. Columbus
8. Carolina

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Central

1. Nashville
2. Dallas
3. St. Louis
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4. Chicago
5. Winnipeg
6. Minnesota
7. Colorado

Pacific

1. San Jose
2. LA
3. Calgary
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4. Edmonton
5. Anaheim
6. Arizona
7. Vancouver

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