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Phobophilia posted:my criticism of this episode is that way too many scenes occurred, without giving us a single moment to breathe. lots of quick cuts everywhere. tekkadan has gotten way too big for their and the audience's britches. this bodes badly for the rest of the season if they can't get it under control It kind of feels like the last two weeks where re-intorduction and set up for the season. They covered a lot of ground, hopefully in the next couple of eps they settle down into the story they want to tell with out cutting back to B stories every 30 seconds. I especially liked the beat with Nobalis turning down the call from the resistance fighter(?), it shows that Kudelia might be an important person but she is still a pawn.
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I think the Atra/Kudelia and Aston Dinner scenes were pretty light and let everything just chill for a bit. Also I need a gif of hush about to shove Atra and Mika just snake striking him like that.
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Oct 9, 2016 18:20
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Oct 9, 2016 18:45
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Lemon-Lime posted:Yeah, my guess is Ein, but I wouldn't bet on it. Oh God I both love and hate this with all my heart.
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Oct 9, 2016 21:52
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I think that this episode also gave me a better grasp of where they're going, and have been going, with Orga and Mika'a characters. To mangle the meaning of a Shakespeare quote slightly, they both love not wisely but too well. They have phenomenal loyalty and affection for the great big extended family called Tekkadan, and genuinely, unselfishly want the best for them, but the harshness of their lives has left them so terrified of what the world can do to them that they unconsciously put their loved ones in even greater peril. Orga's obsession with growing Tekkadan's wealth and prestige as a mercenary company isn't a matter of ego, and he believes in the same dream as Kudelia, a world where the kids under his command don't have to fight. He simply sees their mercenary work as a get-rich-quick scheme, a way to get his people out of starvation in the gutter and into nice, safe, legitimate jobs as fast as possible. Similarly, that's why he's fixated on insane high-risk-high-reward jobs - he wants to minimise the amount of time his kids have to spend doing dangerous, soul-killing mercenary work before he can get her the capital to secure them a more pleasant future. This next couple of episodes, I think, will be where it bites him in the rear end - he's gambled and won so many times that he's got cocky, and now he's finally led Tekkadan into an obvious trap that will get a shitload of them killed out of his desire to create a better, safer world for them. I particularly expect bad things for the Earth branch, a group of second-string characters in second-string machines right under the guns of Gjallarhorn. I imagine that his arc will be about developing some patience, looking out more for Tekkadan's safety in the short-term as well as the long, and possibly learning to reach out a little more to help from others. Mika, meanwhile, is a loving, loyal guard dog. He sees his job as being to protect those he cares about through extreme physical violence, and to avenge those he can't through the same, because it's what he's good at and he wants to put it to some sort of positive use. The problem is that that habit of biting off faces for the greater good creates as many enemies as it destroys. I suspect that his arc will be about learning to let go and forgive his enemies, giving Tekkadan a chance for peace. After Rustal dies, Gjallarhorn's revenge will be mighty and terrible, and Iok, as the new commander of the Arianrhod fleet, will be the visible, immediate face of that vengeance. The problem is that they're being manipulated by a common enemy, and Iok is the solar system's best hope for a better future, so they'll need to make peace eventually, and Mika just isn't good at doing that with those who've hurt his loved ones. If Iok turns into Carta 2.0, it's al over. Hopefully, Julietta won't have to die to make both of them realise that, Marida-style.
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Droyer posted:That's true, but considering they're keeping the masked man's identity hidden from the audience, I doubt that will be the case. I'm not convinced it's Gaelio (and as I've mentioned before I think it would be lame if it was) but I think it's bound to be a character we've seen before. I keep saying it, but there's one person who definitely survived season one, who knows and was screwed over by McGillis, and who has drat good reasons not to show his face.. Iznario Fareed, McGillis's father. Gali-Gali has a lot of reasons to show his face and few to hide it. Meanwhile, Iznario's in the opposite position. Of course, if someone happened to assume he was a dead hero as opposed to a live exile, well... that might suit him fine.
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Oct 9, 2016 23:38
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I'm telling you, it's McGillis
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Tae posted:I'm telling you, it's McGillis It's GcMillis, long lost twin brother of McGillis
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Oct 10, 2016 00:02
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Buddy, you do not want to be raising your hand to Atra even a little.
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Speaking of Atra, kid has a growth spurt, she's almost taller than Mika. Holy poo poo, either she's supposed to be tall or Mika is actually really short. And the malnutrition is implied.
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bman in 2288 posted:Speaking of Atra, kid has a growth spurt, she's almost taller than Mika. Holy poo poo, either she's supposed to be tall or Mika is actually really short. Mika's ridiculously short. Like, maybe four foot something short. He doesn't come up to Orga's shoulders. Now, admitted, Orga's a pretty tall guy, but he's not seven foot or anything. Mika's crazy short. Doesn't stop him from deadlifting people with one hand, though.
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Oct 10, 2016 07:38
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Does anyone have that picture of QUALITY Atra with the handgun?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Does anyone have that picture of QUALITY Atra with the handgun? No, but I do have the one where she has a beam rifle. 
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One thing I'm idly curious about is who owns the Flauros. I think we can take it as a given that Iok will end up piloting it - his Reginlaze is specialised for long-ranged combat, his dark personal suit colours would work well with its monstrous design, and it's named after the demon summoned to exact vengeance on other demons. The question, then, is whether it's his family's suit (he is, after all, a representative of the Seven Stars), or whether he'll inherit it from Rustal. The model kit is being advertised really early, Iok has a suit at the moment, and Rustal is being hyped enough that I'd expect him not to go down without making Tekkadan and/or Dawn Horizon bleed for it. I'm actually pretty hyped to see it in action. It's a Gundam designed primarily for ranged combat in a setting where ranged combat largely doesn't work, which makes me wonder just what kind of insane poo poo it's packing to tip the balance.
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Oct 10, 2016 08:01
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Tae posted:I'm telling you, it's McGillis I hope so. So delightfully stupid a gimmick, but it makes me laugh every time.
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Oct 10, 2016 09:12
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We can all agree that Mika's going to end up with a cyber hand, right? That's what the opening is foreshadowing with him crawling on the ground/that end shot of the raised hand? I remember the mechanic talking about his leg being a prosthetic being a cultural thing out in the colonies last season...
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Oct 10, 2016 11:39
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If the trend continues Mika is going to end up a blind quadriplegic who can only feel things when physically attached to a war machine.
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Oct 10, 2016 11:42
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I thought the robot hand was barbatos skeletal hand.
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Oct 10, 2016 12:14
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Tae posted:I thought the robot hand was barbatos skeletal hand. It was.
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Oct 10, 2016 12:15
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a kitten posted:Buddy, you do not want to be raising your hand to Atra even a little. I loved that scene. There was no dramatic music, no ~tiger aura~, but you still absolutely knew that Mika was completely willing to kill that dude in an instant Mika is in such a terrible place. He's beating himself up over not being able to help, and his reputation is is separating him from new Tekkadan members, his supposed new family.
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Oct 10, 2016 17:06
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Guy Goodbody posted:but you still absolutely knew that Mika was completely willing to kill that dude in an instant He does the murder eyes whenever he's inches away from killing someone because they're hurting someone he cares about.
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Ethiser posted:If the trend continues Mika is going to end up a blind quadriplegic who can only feel things when physically attached to a war machine. So Ein, then. Guy Goodbody posted:I loved that scene. There was no dramatic music, no ~tiger aura~, but you still absolutely knew that Mika was completely willing to kill that dude in an instant My favorite part of the scene was Atra knowing exactly what was going on and immediately moving to defuse the situation, followed by the lines "Atra, was he bullying you?" "I don't GET bullied." Atra is so great.
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So, a thought occurred to me about Masky McGlowface, and how he could be Gali-Gali without McGillis retroactively looking stupid for not confirming the kill: Gali-Gali got Eined and now he's a brain in a robot body. McGillis just underestimated how long sheer hate would let Gaelio cling to life after taking a giant sword to the torso.
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Oct 11, 2016 00:15
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His mobile suit is a tool of Justice
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The Sandman posted:So, a thought occurred to me about Masky McGlowface, and how he could be Gali-Gali without McGillis retroactively looking stupid for not confirming the kill: Gali-Gali got Eined and now he's a brain in a robot body. McGillis just underestimated how long sheer hate would let Gaelio cling to life after taking a giant sword to the torso. There is a fair bit of irony in it given how much Galigali hated that sort of thing. But then, that sort of unpredictable behavior would be something McGillis would never account for. But McGillis mask2 would be funnier. Keep your "friends" close...and your enemies even closer.
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Oct 11, 2016 01:05
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Kanos posted:Atra is so great.  I really like the new OP.
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Kanos posted:My favorite part of the scene was Atra knowing exactly what was going on and immediately moving to defuse the situation, followed by the lines "Atra, was he bullying you?" "I don't GET bullied." This was also my favorite part. I really like Atra and hope she doesn't die this season
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Oct 11, 2016 01:26
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Atra remains great, which is good because it continues to make that one goon who melted down over how terrible she is like 1 episode into season 1 look like a huge dingus.
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Oh i forgot to post this over here. Two things i really liked in particular on today's IBO  Atra being the greatest.  Mikazuki back to using a giant fuckoff piece of metal for a weapon.
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a kitten posted:Oh i forgot to post this over here. I like the idea of a broadsword being a middle ground between a katana and a mace.
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Oct 11, 2016 02:15
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I like that for once, a dramatic aerial drop is a bad idea to do because it will gently caress up even a Gundam. Land safely!
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Mordja posted:"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron." Meanwhile, Akihiro feels vaguely robbed, and doesn't know why.
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The Sandman posted:Meanwhile, Akihiro feels vaguely robbed, and doesn't know why. His is going to have like four of those. Or like two of those and two big ol' LMG looking things.
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Droyer posted:I like the idea of a broadsword being a middle ground between a katana and a mace. It's less of a broadsword and more of a blunt metal bat.
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Mordja posted:"It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron." That's not even close to big enough, relative to the Barbatos, to resemble the Dragonslayer.
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tsob posted:That's not even close to big enough, relative to the Barbatos, to resemble the Dragonslayer. I'd be up for the metal version of that giant beam saber from 00
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Guy Goodbody posted:I'd be up for the metal version of that giant beam saber from 00 So the 150m Gerbera Strait from Astray, then?
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Guy Goodbody posted:I loved that scene. There was no dramatic music, no ~tiger aura~, but you still absolutely knew that Mika was completely willing to kill that dude in an instant That's something I really appreciate about Iron Blooded Orphans. It's good at not emphasizing horrible things. They're shown, or implied, but since it's so normal for the main cast, the show can kind of gloss over it in a way that wouldn't work for characters like Al in 0080. Also, you know. Atra is great.
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The fact the two Turbines girls and Norba survived that kind of implied violence, with only minor injuries at that, undercuts it's power a lot, since anytime you do see such violence you're just left thinking "well they might have survived because popular". That Gaelio might have survived makes it even less powerful. Oh, and when the show wants to be it is vicious, like Carta. Which doesn't help, since you know it's willing to emphasise death when it matters and is definite.
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