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Beekeeping and You posted:If we're talking about the powers... To be fair, the combat powers can be used for getting Magical Candies too, as Calamity Mary shows. Though in general, the generic stat boosts probably make combat Magical Skills mostly superfluous for getting Magical Candies unless you pick fights with small armies of armed men the way Calamity Mary does.
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Yeah, Cranberry was playing on NG+, so was so overlevelled that she could smash through La Pucelle's extendo-blade like it was no thang. And the combat powers make sense if you remember the thing recruited people playing a cellphone game about fighting monsters.
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:not sure if anyone addressed this yet, but in the OP i'm pretty sure the hand snow white grabs is alice's, what with the shape of the sleeve. someone said before that promo art paired her with top speed, but maybe it's a red herring? Nope, it's Ripple in that scene. Ripple's glove and sleeve are an exact match to that of the hand in the OP. When I noticed that a few episodes ago and I realised it wasn't La Pucelle's hand, I thought "Oh well, RIP La Pucelle". I'm still going to hold out hope for Top Speed surviving, but I'm getting increasingly worried.
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Wasn't it Ripple in the flashback with the abusive replacement father? I'd think that was a sign she's on her way out.
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nielsm posted:Wasn't it Ripple in the flashback with the abusive replacement father? I'd think that was a sign she's on her way out. Her flashback happened in the middle of the episode and was a little more detailed, so I think she's safe for now. If a magical girl has her background dumped into the pre-credit sequence, that's when you have to start worrying about them. Silver2195 posted:I kind of think Sister Nana semi-deliberately cultivates her own naivete, to the point where Weiss's enabling is part of the reason she loves Weiss in the first place. That might be reading too much into it, though. I think you're right, it looks like her starry-eyed attitude is some kind of defense mechanism she put into place after something traumatic happened to her and Weiss.
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shots fired  i think, maybe it's that other show with mahou in the title this season
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:shots fired Wait is that "It's not my fault I'm not popular"? When did she make a new friend?
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:shots fired No, you're right... Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku Still... I wish that there critique was a bit deeper than just "garbage show".
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Well then. Top Speed is married? And it does seem like there is something wrong with her health from that one quick line. Does one of the angels count towards the goal of 8 remaining? Is that even a thing anymore or does Fav just want everyone to die.
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Good god, Swim Swim may be cold-blooded, but Mary's a monster!  Speaking of cold-blooded, that Angel stabbed Weiss with her own sister!  On top of everything else that's happening, Sister Nana and the surviving Peaky Angel are both going mad with grief, and now they're all going to be together in one place. The next episode's title implies that Fav and Cranberry are going to implement a new rule in the game, which they'll probably do in response to what the other girls do when they see each other. I don't think Mary is going to last another episode, and I suspect that Cranberry is going to look at Swim Swim and see a kindred spirit instead of a target. Mary's sarcastic little chant when she transformed was funny.
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in the sequence with her husband, they framed/cut the shots very specifically to avoid showing top speed's midsection. gotta be pregnant. though if she isn't, i appreciate the misdirection.
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:in the sequence with her husband, they framed/cut the shots very specifically to avoid showing top speed's midsection. gotta be pregnant. though if she isn't, i appreciate the misdirection. i'd laugh pretty hard if that's what's up
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LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:in the sequence with her husband, they framed/cut the shots very specifically to avoid showing top speed's midsection. gotta be pregnant. though if she isn't, i appreciate the misdirection. I'm really looking forward to see what happens next episode since pretty much all the combat abilities are on the "bad" side now. The "good" side only really has Ripple left, though I guess Top Speed could ram into someone/drop them from a high height and Alice can just keep throwing herself at someone until she gets close enough to use her bare hands.
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Ripple still doing charity work and preferring evasion to direct confrontation makes a lot more sense now. Also, The way she looks out for Ninja Girl now suddenly seems a hell of a lot more motherly in retrospect, she's basically been trying to help her out as best she can and keep her out of trouble. I also generally like the juxtaposition of the stereotypical housewife being a bad rear end when Batman'ing around. Peeky Angels got some sympathy from me, the acting and look of horror and grief from the surviving sister was good. That death was brutal; though the net score is still "You're both murderous psychopaths who think this is a game." Poor Nana. She really in the end didn't realize just how bad things were.
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Fav's pitch to Mary was perfect. "You're a right piece of poo poo; want superpowers?"
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She is definitely pregnant. At least I'm convinced and I would be shocked if otherwise. Also I'm thinking the next episode the new rule is battle royale for candies since all the magical girls will be there and that would be something Cranberry would join in on. Either save people in the crossfire or kill the other magical girls.
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My first thought was it's going to be "No massacring civilians Jesus Christ I didn't think we'd actually have to make this a rule," due to them not really wanting to draw attention to all of this, but seeing as it's causing more conflict, they're probably fine with it.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Peeky Angels got some sympathy from me, the acting and look of horror and grief from the surviving sister was good. That death was brutal; though the net score is still "You're both murderous psychopaths who think this is a game."\ no loving sympathy, they attacked first, they had what was coming. they're not even kids, they can tell right from wrong
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Cialis Railman posted:There's no way they'll kill off a pregnant lady...right? On one hand, this show seems brutal enough that they would, on the other hand, I feel like it inverts the death flag.
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She's gonna get hit and spontaneously give birth and ripple's going to have to take care of the kid.
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And even worse, they'll find a way to make it legitimately the pregnant woman's fault.
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AnoHito posted:And even worse, they'll find a way to make it legitimately the pregnant woman's fault. I dunno, she's been careful in ways the ones who've bit it so far haven't.
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Cialis Railman posted:She's gonna get hit and spontaneously give birth and ripple's going to have to take care of the kid. The baby's first word will be "tch!"
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Watching this show just makes me pissed off because at least half the girls are trash human beings without even an excuse for being sociopaths*. I can understand them killing each other reluctantly out of neccesity, but so far every magical girl that has killed has done so with zero hesitation or remorse. At least Ruler (who was also a terrible person - if her backstory was supposed to make me sympathize with her, it definitely failed), the robot, and one of the angels have been wiped out. Speaking of the angels, at first I was attributing their behavior to the cruelty of children, but it turns out they're loving college students! Jesus, I hope the last few episodes are just Snow White, Sister Nana, Top Speed, Ripple, and Hardgore Alice violently beating the poo poo out of Calamity Mary (who was also a god drat child abuser!), Swim Swim, Cranberry, and the remaining angel girl. This show is bad for my blood pressure. Oh, one other poster mentioned something about it not being a cynical show because the girls were driven to violence by Fav. I don't buy that; not a single one who has killed has been morally conflicted about doing so. * Speaking of this, was it ever explained why Magicaloid 44, who seemed to just be some random young woman who hangs out with a homeless guy, was totally cool with violently murdering young girls? Edit: Also, if something happens to Top Speed (which it probably will) I'm going to be really upset because she is my favorite character and one of only two of the characters I like (the other being La Pucelle)? Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Ytlaya posted:Watching this show just makes me pissed off because at least half the girls are trash human beings without even an excuse for being sociopaths*. I can understand them killing each other reluctantly out of neccesity, but so far every magical girl that has killed has done so with zero hesitation or remorse. At least Ruler (who was also a terrible person - if her backstory was supposed to make me sympathize with her, it definitely failed), the robot, and one of the angels have been wiped out. Speaking of the angels, at first I was attributing their behavior to the cruelty of children, but it turns out they're loving college students! Jesus, I hope the last few episodes are just Snow White, Sister Nana, Top Speed, Ripple, and Hardgore Alice violently beating the poo poo out of Calamity Mary (who was also a god drat child abuser!), Swim Swim, Cranberry, and the remaining angel girl. This show is bad for my blood pressure. You may of been thinking of something I said. I meant that the show isn't cynical about the concept magical girls per se, not that the characters were all somehow good at heart. Though it is worth noting that Fav chose Calamity Mary specifically because she was a bad person. I also think Swim Swim is misguided rather than evil (bearing in mind that she's probably actually the youngest magical girl); she was willing to sacrifice 25 years of her life for Tama and the Peaky Angels.
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magicaloid is sorta like ripple in that she ran away from a hosed up family situation, except she responded not with immediate counteraggression and instead ran away to live as a hobo she's more flippant and cynical than ripple and she's more willing to try a large range of activities to survive. and without a good role model, she becomes willing to murder. if ripple had fallen into the wrong crowd, she would be just as much a ruthless killer as any of them so while i think this series can be cynical, it is also willing to display the full spectrum of the human condition, the good and bad, the violent and pacifist. a truly cynical show like drifters would make everyone a bad guy also ruler was clearly never sympathetic, she just rocks up to her workplace and starts pushing some nutso darwinian rationalization and expected that she would float to the top of the chaos. she read some guide-to-leadership webpage and that fed into her huge ego, without actually understanding how to motivate people to follow your instructions. she could not rule through either love nor fear
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I don't think that even people from bad family situations suddenly become capable of callous murder against random people they don't know, though (much less murder against someone who is obviously a good person and not aggressive). The only sort up upbringing that really justifies that is being a child soldier or something. Regarding the cynicism thing, yeah, I agree it's not cynical about magical girls themselves. I was just thinking that it *is* cynical about humans in general, though it's entirely possible that half the girls chosen were sociopaths on purpose in order to ensure conflict. I had also forgotten about Swim Swim being a child, though her actions are bizarre even for a 7/8 year old (children might lash out with cruel impulses, but they generally don't calmly and rationally seek to literally kill others unless there's something very wrong with them). I'm actually enjoying the show; it's just that for some reason "people who act somewhat normal and then are randomly cool with murder" annoys me more than "obviously crazy or weird sociopath" (for example Calamity Mary). As one other note, I am happy Hardgore seems to be at least a somewhat good person. I was predicting she would be (since her appearance was more threatening I expected a twist), but it's still nice. Phobophilia posted:also ruler was clearly never sympathetic, she just rocks up to her workplace and starts pushing some nutso darwinian rationalization and expected that she would float to the top of the chaos. she read some guide-to-leadership webpage and that fed into her huge ego, without actually understanding how to motivate people to follow your instructions. she could not rule through either love nor fear This is how I interpreted it, though I got the impression that the show was trying to reveal that she had suffered from Japanese workplace sexism (which would have actually been a sufficient justification for her being an rear end in a top hat, just not her murdering folks).
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Magicaloid was in middle school and I got the sense that her transformation made her really logical and detached. She is even surprised that she feels nothing, and it's probably not because she's supposed to be a sociopath.
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Desuwa posted:Magicaloid was in middle school and I got the sense that her transformation made her really logical and detached. She is even surprised that she feels nothing, and it's probably not because she's supposed to be a sociopath. Noone has talked about the transformation also affecting personality so far?
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Desuwa posted:Magicaloid was in middle school and I got the sense that her transformation made her really logical and detached. She is even surprised that she feels nothing, and it's probably not because she's supposed to be a sociopath. Ah, I must have been confused because of her living with that other woman (who seemed at least college-aged). And yeah, if the transformations affect personality it would be an interesting explanation for things, though the fact that we haven't seen it hinted at with the main characters makes me doubt that's normally the case.
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nielsm posted:Noone has talked about the transformation also affecting personality so far? Everyone in the thread is saying she's some kind of sociopath but she turns into a robot and talks about how logical it is to join up with Calamity Mary. I don't think I'm reading too far into it, though it's not confirmed either. e: just in general talking about how robots are soulless and emotionless, not that all transformations necessarily affect personality. She seemed to understand that she should be feeling something, even disgust, and she was surprised she didn't. Desuwa fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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I feel like if a little slower pacing to flesh out the characters more in ways that Don't Obviously Foreshadow Death Magicaloid would be way more interesting as a character; I don't really see hints that she was ever really trying to figure out what's up with her mind but imagine how baller it would be if it was her plot arc? Like Ainz Ool Gown from Overlord? "Why can't I feel emotions?" and it's all one tragic downwards spiral of pushing the limits of human decency to find the point that she finally feels something? Tragic because she isn't the one who designed her character to be that way. Obviously this is bordering on head-cannon fanfiction territory but it seems like with her line before her death like a lost opportunity for a plot arc. Basically I think in retrospect the show while the show is fun and I enjoy it; it would be I think it could be approaching Great territory if it had a little more Show and a little Less Tell. Mainly I think I don't like Foreboding Foreshadowing Flashbacks; I feel like those could've been conveyed better but we'd need two-cours.
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Someone ITT mentioned the anime is already adding a lot more material that's not in the LN to flesh out the characters.
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Demicol posted:Someone ITT mentioned the anime is already adding a lot more material that's not in the LN to flesh out the characters. Yeah, the way the LN reads sometimes makes me double-check to see if something is missing. I'm not sure if this is due to an editorial requirement of a complete story in one volume (which I know was the case with SAO) or just lazy writing.
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I don't think Magicaloid was unemotional, or had any problems with her emotions as a result of becoming a magical girl. She didn't have any problems hamming it up while conning Sister Nana, and she understood and appreciated Mary's backhanded compliment. She was just withdrawn very self-serving, which is understanding considering her life before becoming a magical girl, and the fact that she didn't want to be a magical girl in the first place. She had an attitude of dissatisfaction and looking out for number one, which is why she didn't have a problem conning Sister Nana or trying to ally herself with Mary.Raenir Salazar posted:Tragic because she isn't the one who designed her character to be that way. If it turns out that the process of choosing a magical girl wasn't random, I wouldn't be surprised if Fav thought it would be funny to pick someone who was just messing around on her friend's phone. The little bastard.
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Command Ant posted:If it turns out that the process of choosing a magical girl wasn't random, I wouldn't be surprised if Fav thought it would be funny to pick someone who was just messing around on her friend's phone. I thought her friend was letting her live in the apartment in exchange for her friend grinding levels out on the phone game, since she wouldn't be old enough to find paid work otherwise. Slightly different than "friend" or "messing around", she was being compensated or extorted.
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