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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Bonfire Lit posted:

I feel like that is entirely in the spirit of the game, what with you being a designer of lovely bargain bin electronics

Okay, this bit of background story is making me interested in the game now

Good story can Turn Me On to many games that have gameplay I don't really like

(my phone capitalized Turn Me On for some reason but I'm leaving it)

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
it's a song by kevin lyttle or david guetta

Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

Sagebrush posted:

Okay, this bit of background story is making me interested in the game now

Good story can Turn Me On to many games that have gameplay I don't really like

(my phone capitalized Turn Me On for some reason but I'm leaving it)

one "mission" has you designing a bullshit audiophile thing
in another you make a thing that's supposed to warn people using VR headsets if someone's coming, to avoid "awkward situations"

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I like the one where an autonomous AI company gives you a contract

Not a company making autonomous AI

the company IS autonomous AI

Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

i like the fact that such companies apparently are outdated and boring

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
https://steamcommunity.com/id/skroll/ hook it up i want more scores on my list

Bonfire Lit
Jul 9, 2008

If you're one of the sinners who caused this please unfriend me now.

spankmeister posted:

I like the one where an autonomous AI company gives you a contract
I like the one where you make a bitcocryptocurrency atm that just needs to handle cash deposits

Pardot
Jul 25, 2001




gently caress that PM and his stupid sandwich maker

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Bonfire Lit posted:

yeah it doesn't precisely match the spec but passes validation so ship it

this is why this game is so awesome

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sagebrush posted:

Okay, this bit of background story is making me interested in the game now

Good story can Turn Me On to many games that have gameplay I don't really like

(my phone capitalized Turn Me On for some reason but I'm leaving it)

you would enjoy this game

its a game

a puzzle game

the challenge is working within some extreme limitations

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
ok here's my profile add me for hi scores: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977504666/ I sent out some random requests too.


also since i'm feeling super generous here's a pro tip code segment for doing a loop without jmp commands where you kick it off over xbus. Useful for the final output of some chain usually.

code:
@ teq 0 0
+ slx x0
+ mov x0 acc  # could hard code the count too
teq acc 0
- mov x1 p1 # do work. in this case move from rom to p1
- sub 1

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Smoke weed

https://www.twitch.tv/sneakyness_912/v/93424295

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka
this looks like a fun game I will try it sometime this week, thanks OP

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

i bought the game and, as someone who has worked in product development as a westerner in china, i greatly enjoyed the little details like your visa application and the emails from your coworkers

lord help me though, i am reading a datasheet to play a video game. people already made fun of me for playing papers, please

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
You should print it out and make notes on it.

I'm not joking, there's lots of stuff that (much like the real world) isn't mentioned in the datasheets.

And once it's out of early access, you won't have to worry about those undocumented behaviors changing in the next batch of parts!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
sage i'm glad as gently caress you got it i'm
sure you'll love it. and dominate too

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

yeah it got me, i take back what said about it being pointless

i mean i have a box of arduinos sitting right here buuuuuuttttt i got to the one with the neon light sequencer and i'm thinking "man, there has to be a way to do this with less than three microcontrollers...oh wait, i could do this with a flip flop maybe?...damnit, why isn't there a port expander or something..."

yepp

e: also are teh little graphs at the end a comparison of your solution to other people's?

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Oct 10, 2016

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

Sagebrush posted:

e: also are teh little graphs at the end a comparison of your solution to other people's?

ye, add people on steam for leaderboards

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy



lmao this is the least efficient solution out of a bunch of you guys and I can't think of anything better at all

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

echinopsis posted:




lmao this is the least efficient solution out of a bunch of you guys and I can't think of anything better at all

that one's a bit obnoxious

you get power efficiency by not doing stuff unless you need to

if you already know one condition has failed, you don't need to check the other

Jabor fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Oct 10, 2016

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




rodtronics

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
:ssh: you only need to send one signal to wake the bottom one up, amd one more to turn it off.

Double :ssh: you don't have to compare p0 in your upper node every tick either. One subtraction will tell you how far you are from the turn on time for example. This gets easier once you learn about some undocumented instructions. It's also why I normally just try and solve it at all and come back way later with all my lessons learned before trying to optimize.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




:ssh:

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
im adding yous on steam :peanut:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

how do you discover undocumented instructions? are you just supposed to guess based on what you remember from assembly programming class, or does it come up in the story somehow?

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Sagebrush posted:

how do you discover undocumented instructions? are you just supposed to guess based on what you remember from assembly programming class, or does it come up in the story somehow?

read your emails

(yeah it's the latter)

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
or if you can read chinese you can get all the deets on the logic array chip instead of having to figure it out yourself

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ok so since i'm only up to the infrared sensor i don't think i have seen any of those yet. i think i'd remember.

it is a cool little game. i need to go back to the neon lamp one and optimize.

i learned enough chinese in shanghai to pick out a few characters/words here and there in the story content, but lol @ trying to read a datasheet

SupSuper
Apr 8, 2009

At the Heart of the city is an Alien horror, so vile and so powerful that not even death can claim it.
here's my dumb bad scores: http://steamcommunity.com/id/supsuper

i wish i could combine conditions without driving myself insane

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
i miss conditional jumps :(

btw my steam is http://steamcommunity.com/id/bobbilljim/

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Ok so I deobfuscated and decompiled the game and found the list of instructions:



"nop",
"mov",
"add",
"sub",
"mul",
"dst",
"dgt",
"not",
"jmp",
"teq",
"tgt",
"tlt",
"tcp",
"slp",
"slx",
"gen",

spankmeister fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 10, 2016

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
not quite sure what that all means. have you uncovered a couple new instructions?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






echinopsis posted:

not quite sure what that all means. have you uncovered a couple new instructions?

the instructions are between " "

I have discovered a new instruction this way but i think the game gives you it after a while too.

e: i edited out the unimportant stuff

spankmeister fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Oct 10, 2016

Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

yeah you get it in an email

there's a secret conditional too

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Su-Su-Sudoko posted:

yeah you get it in an email

there's a secret conditional too

There's something about reverse engineering a game about engineering tho...

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

spankmeister posted:

There's something about reverse engineering a game about engineering tho...
It's totally allowed.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It's totally allowed.

Oh good the internet police won't come after me then.

The zachtronics guy did make it somewhat less than trivial but really it's not very hard to decompile.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
i'm not sure the point though. you them before you get to the meaty puzzles anyway.

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spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Fuzzy Mammal posted:

i'm not sure the point though. you them before you get to the meaty puzzles anyway.

I wanted to see if there are more than the game gives you.

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