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goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar

FileNotFound posted:

- Tweaked multitool: It should now be much stronger (especially multitool T2) - handle with care when using it ;-)

Note, holding down the button will now WRECK your SV for sure. :v

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FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


goninzo posted:

Note, holding down the button will now WRECK your SV for sure. :v

This is good news. Now we can fully deconstruct our kills.

goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar

FileNotFound posted:

This is good news. Now we can fully deconstruct our kills.

I'm really glad I labeled that wreckage in the trader system then. I like leaving the reminders that we are around too.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

goninzo posted:

Note, holding down the button will now WRECK your SV for sure. :v

How quickly can you deconstruct hardened cv steel now? Because 10 hits was a bit much...

e.

quote:

Fixed: Problem that thrusters used power even when turned off

Thank god. I've started playing solo on a different server and finally figured out that the reason my cv was still drawing 900kw when idle was the drat thrusters.

Ambaire fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Oct 26, 2016

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
Change isn't live yet so no idea.

Solvency
Apr 28, 2008

Trade, sir! Discover it! This is you, this is a clue. Get a clue, discover trade!
Finally I can be the scrapper I've always wanted to be.

This is me:

Solvency fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Oct 26, 2016

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


Get ready to start having some gold on you:

Pirate Boost
if you have 777 or more Gold Ingots in your inventory get 5 RP per day
if you have nothing in PvE get additionally 7 RP per day
Thoughts about this change:
Pirates were a bit below the other factions in terms of RP and overall living conditions. It is their nature to always live in risk but right now the effort was a bit too high so we found a way to encourage still the style of them with a reward in exchange.
777 Gold ingots is just the kick every pirate needs. Sitting on a treasure lot of gold. If you want to keep it - fight for it or hide it somewhere.. your reward are 5 RP which stacks with the 7 RP if you take the risk in PvP. So in total 12 RP if you live the dream of Captain Jack Sparrow, I mean Gold Roger, I mean... what ever :wink: So soon you have enough RP together to live the rest of your day in PvE sunset..

puberty worked me over
May 20, 2013

by Cyrano4747

FileNotFound posted:

Nerf to some of our clever designs coming up n 4.1.
http://empyriononline.com/threads/alpha-experimental-4-1-0-build-673.7861/

Tweaked hitpoints on building blocks: half HP for thin compared to full blocks

This will wreck the Frig design as it's 1-2 layers of thin blocks for the most part.

At least redesigning it won't suck so much:
- Tweaked multitool: It should now be much stronger (especially multitool T2) - handle with care when using it ;-)

Wing walls confirmed for top tier armor choice

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


puberty worked me over posted:

Wing walls confirmed for top tier armor choice

Yeah I'm not a fan of that change. I get why it was done, but the 'thin' blocks still take up a full block of space. It just makes it harder to build hallways etc.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

FileNotFound posted:

Yeah I'm not a fan of that change. I get why it was done, but the 'thin' blocks still take up a full block of space. It just makes it harder to build hallways etc.

I sort of agree, though I'm mainly thinking of the cheese people tend to do by slapping a layer of thin walls to the outside of their CV's, getting full block HP for a little extra exterior space. I can see how the change would make setting up a fortified interior a pain, though my philosophy is usually 'if you can get in, congrats!'

I have since modified this philosophy a little by sticking my core in between constructors and some storage :getin:

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~
Who has permission to accept dudes into the faction?

We're trying to pickup a dude from the homeworld.

S w a y z e
Mar 19, 2007

f l a p

I don't care what anybody says, this is the best thing I've ever made


Here it is ruining someone's day

goninzo
Aug 26, 2009

All around decent avatar
BTW, when on an enemy planet, where you know we have enemies, maybe not lead them striaght back to our gold mining operation.

Got 5 SVs and 5 dudes killed. whoops.

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

Ambaire posted:

How quickly can you deconstruct hardened cv steel now? Because 10 hits was a bit much...

Downloaded the experimental to try it out in a single player game. In 4.1, the T2 multi tool now destroys regular L blocks in 1 hit, and hardened and combat steel blocks in 2 hits. This will be so much nicer...

Also, SV guns seem to be infinitely accurate wherever you're aiming. I made my normal 4 gatling SV and they were all impacting the same point no matter whether I was aiming 5m in front of me or 50.

Spookydonut
Sep 13, 2010

"Hello alien thoughtbeasts! We murder children!"
~our children?~
"Not recently, no!"
~we cool bro~

dylguy90 posted:

I don't care what anybody says, this is the best thing I've ever made


Here it is ruining someone's day


This was fun, the first two volleys just cored it from the rear, all that was left was a fridge.

Then the turrets just kept shooting until the sv inside died

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


goninzo posted:

BTW, when on an enemy planet, where you know we have enemies, maybe not lead them striaght back to our gold mining operation.

Got 5 SVs and 5 dudes killed. whoops.

It was pretty funny - I'm sure TheRaven had a good laugh about shooting bunch of goons hiding in a hole. Well done to those who were clever and quick enough to either OCD their junk or log out to keep their gold.

I really want to go mining there again - but this time I want to plop down a cheap 4 missile 4 flack turret. It should be enough to either outright kill the attacker or at the very least give us time to get into our ships. By the time I managed to get to my ship I realized that most of it was actually a giant hole.

Also - do we want to schedule a time to try to attack some bases on gold? We're absolutely wrecking everything we have ever encountered in space but we have not been able to control the surface - and after all that's where the resources are.

FileNotFound fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Oct 27, 2016

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
Battle between crocktopus and sathium asteroid was fun to watch. Asteroid looks enough like a real asteroid that if you're not looking for it you're likely not going to notice that it's just slightly off.

Park it between planet and moon and lololooolloololol

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
Probably could "just" make a turret HV that can attach to the average SV and take it down with us and park it up top.

That said, I think operation RAT Chase is a sign that we need to pay attention, too, given the guy showed up, wrecked all the SVs and it was only the dumb newbie (hello) that managed to get in a space plane to tussle with him.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


Gamerofthegame posted:

Probably could "just" make a turret HV that can attach to the average SV and take it down with us and park it up top.

That said, I think operation RAT Chase is a sign that we need to pay attention, too, given the guy showed up, wrecked all the SVs and it was only the dumb newbie (hello) that managed to get in a space plane to tussle with him.

The reason I want a base rather than HV is the missile turrets on a base are homing. It's feasible to evade them in space where you can do 110ms - but on Gold planet where you are in 1.6G with a speed cap of 40m/s - you are getting hit.

The cost isn't really a factor as once we are done mining we can just dissemble the whole thing.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
My limited understanding was that building something would A.) Take time and B.) Flash everyone until you turn it to private or whatever, though.

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
For A, the answer is to build it before you go there and just spawn it because you can have completed blueprints ready to spawn.

For B, there are so many bases on that planet that another one might not raise a ton of eyebrows in the 10 seconds or so it takes to set faction.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


Gamerofthegame posted:

My limited understanding was that building something would A.) Take time and B.) Flash everyone until you turn it to private or whatever, though.

Not quite - you can build it now, and once it's ready it's just a matter of plopping it down out of your factory and immediately setting it faction. Yes it would show up on the map but between all the NPC POIs and so on I don't think it'd catch their attention right away.

Even if it did - so be it, a solo SV won't be able to take it - and even if they come, hearing the turret fire up would give us time to scramble to our SVs.

The big issue last night wasn't that we got found. We had the strength to take a lone SV. The issue is that we got caught with our pants down and could not get to our ships at all.

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
RAT perspective from last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXofWKmBf58

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
Oh ffs. You can have one autominer down PER PERSON. That's why I was having trouble placing more than one on a deposit.

I feel really dumb now. There is a thread on the empyrion forums talking about hunters having 8 different autominers on the same deposit because it's all different people doing it.

S w a y z e
Mar 19, 2007

f l a p

Oh god how did we not figure that out...

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Been going through my old designs and updating them for new things.

What's the new meta on SV guns? Is it still Rail+Plasma?

Looking at HP versus damage it's looking like Rail's are still great, with the main thing being rockets vs. plasma now. Higher alpha with rockets, faster shots with plasma (and more ammo per slot.)

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


xanif posted:

Oh ffs. You can have one autominer down PER PERSON. That's why I was having trouble placing more than one on a deposit.

I feel really dumb now. There is a thread on the empyrion forums talking about hunters having 8 different autominers on the same deposit because it's all different people doing it.

How much efficiency does a miner lose on a mined out deposit?

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
https://forum.empyrion-homeworld.net/t/mining-deposits-on-faction-planets-grieving/1582/3?u=xanif

quote:

Hey,

it is no griefing it is called "feature" ...
As I had these planets with the AMD in mind I thought it is obvious that no one grabs his drill and do it but yeah...

Anyways since these planets are PvE I must assume that underground bases are completely senseless. So I have a backup plan to surface-wipe these planets from time to time. So all POIs and Deposits are 100% again but you keep your structures of course.

Everything else is technically not possible

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe
A irl buddy and I have been playing on HWS, and we're getting ready to leave Earth and join a faction tonight. I'm a little fuzzy on something though, if we join the pirates like we're planning and our turrets are set to only target factions will they still light up other pirates aren't in our group or will the only target Alliance and Traders and the like?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

dylguy90 posted:

I don't care what anybody says, this is the best thing I've ever made


Here it is ruining someone's day


When you approach something to attack, you need to be broadcasting this, somehow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFUA2cr1fw

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


girth brooks part 2 posted:

A irl buddy and I have been playing on HWS, and we're getting ready to leave Earth and join a faction tonight. I'm a little fuzzy on something though, if we join the pirates like we're planning and our turrets are set to only target factions will they still light up other pirates aren't in our group or will the only target Alliance and Traders and the like?

Yes. And other pirates including us will murder you over and over and over because Pirate planet is OUR planet.

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

FileNotFound posted:

Yes. And other pirates including us will murder you over and over and over because Pirate planet is OUR planet.

Well that's incredibly lame.

How the heck are groups like Alliance supposed to do their stated mission of escorting Traders if they're going to blast them to bits the second things get hot?

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


girth brooks part 2 posted:

Well that's incredibly lame.

How the heck are groups like Alliance supposed to do their stated mission of escorting Traders if they're going to blast them to bits the second things get hot?

It's ultimately a game limitation - alliances are coming one day - but reality is that Alliance as or right now doesn't really do anything.

Really what they are supposed to do is gank pirates as the tags are pretty easy to spot.

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

FileNotFound posted:

It's ultimately a game limitation - alliances are coming one day - but reality is that Alliance as or right now doesn't really do anything.

Really what they are supposed to do is gank pirates as the tags are pretty easy to spot.

I see. Makes sense.

Guess we'll just go with our plan of being pirate and gently caress off to some other system to build in. Might post our group info in here once it's set if you guys ever want us to fling our wreckage at something, if that's cool. I know goon groups tend to be pretty insular so we'll try and stay the hell out your path, either way. My friend isn't a goon so we can't apply to join you guys.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


girth brooks part 2 posted:

My friend isn't a goon so we can't apply to join you guys.

I couldn't possibly care less. If you don't think he's an idiot it's good enough for me. Paying $10 for a forum doesn't make someone special

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

FileNotFound posted:

I couldn't possibly care less. If you don't think he's an idiot it's good enough for me. Paying $10 for a forum doesn't make someone special

Awesome, thanks. I'm Disco Fantastic and his name is KhaineX. We'll hop on and apply in a few minutes.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


I am not online but if you join mumble someone else maybe able to accept you.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


I am a stupid person and I bought Detroit.

Also 4.1 is live. http://empyriononline.com/threads/alpha-4-1-0-bug-fixes-and-improvements.7903/

The deposits got refreshed. Which means things underground got destroyed - which means a lot of our autominers - but also there is no need to hide them anymore.

FileNotFound fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Oct 28, 2016

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler
I'm willing to put in up to half of the cost of the planet. Let's see how many other people chip in and we can spread the cost over a wider number of people.

But, assuming 100% quality which is a tad optimistic but not unreasonable, with 10 people that's 4k iron ore per hour per deposit.

So...

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Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
Something upstream broke; if you get error code 102 trying to start the game you're one of a small horde of people! Potentially everyone, dunno about that. Nothing to do but wait until it's fixed.

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