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Hello fellow posters I love you and just to piggy back on Metapod it would be great if some lurkers could inject some fresh blood into the thread. You all have unique viewpoints and we will love you too.

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 14:07

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Being nice to people is so so so important

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# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 14:51

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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:

My lurker opinion is that Durant will have a MVP level performance but not win MVP due to narrative reasons

You're not even a lurker you freaking IMPOSTER

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 15:21

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The Clippers hashtag is so loving dumb

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 18:25

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The problem is that Jordan's shot over Russell is literally the only truly "iconic" moment in NBA history. Everything else pales in comparison including this block which was amazing and incredible

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 18:42

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Niwrad posted:

https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls/status/790982632964141056

can't say that I disagree

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 19:56

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Dead Kelly posted:

The Raptors aren't disappointing, they're just interminably frustrating. They play basketball like it was 20 years ago, but somehow still win.

I always thought that the Raptors have p good ball movement outside of Derozan. They always pass the Clippers to death when we play them

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 20:11

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We sound like we're NPR having a posting drive, but that's just because this is pretty much the least dead and dumb thread on these dead and dumb forums and I want it to last forever ever ever ever *echoes into eternity*

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 20:18

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Kibner posted:

I try to convince people who aren't SA members to get an account and post here, but they won't because reddit is free and they think it's just as good.

I wish members could give out one month long trial a year to someone #tastethedifference

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 20:31

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chunkles posted:

i feel like girth should be incorporated into the dong graph. i feel like the rockets are a short, but girthy team, not sure why that's just what is in my heart

girth should be passes, length dribbles

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 20:49

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Shear Modulus posted:

If you think about it dribbling is also a kind of ball movement except up and down

Unironically this

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 21:15

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IcePhoenix posted:

This gives me the mental image getting onto an empty broken down bus that hasn't been cleaned in weeks and seeing a creepy old dude smile at me with crooked yellow teeth and patting the seat next to him.

Into The Wild is actually about the mental journey to becoming a Sacramento Kings fan

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 21:53

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Shear Modulus posted:

The floor needs to man up and take the shot once in a while.

Dellavedova's market inefficiency

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# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 22:36

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Metapod posted:

Hmmm ever think okc

LAC is shaping up to be a monster

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 23:47

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Zogo posted:

Bird and Havlicek famously stole balls for Boston in the playoffs. Or are you writing those off as undue Boston homerism?

I just really don't think it occupy's the same real estate in people's mind that Jordan's shot does. This is not me saying "nothing incredible" ever happened, it's just that nothing will ever be as iconic in the media and our minds as the Jordan shot. It's what I imagine most people reflexively think about when they hear the words clutch gene. It is omnipresent. Every other legendary play requires some kind of prompting, it's not the platonic ideal of the game itself.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 00:13

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Rick posted:

Zogo can I change my vote for rookie PER leader to Jamal Murray?

oooooo compelling.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 00:14

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Dejan Bimble posted:

You only get one team sport

stop trying to make this happen

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 00:21

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Dejan Bimble posted:

I don't think a media person can effectively cover more than one sport

That's fair. I think you'd have to be like a cultural critic or author that was independently famous/focused on putting words to the ephemera of sports for your opinions to increase the existing knowledge base of a variety of sports.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 00:27

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then again, PER is biased against rookie guards and strongly in favor of bigs.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 00:33

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Smellyhead posted:

Back to those hashtags, what does #MFFL even mean?
Also, #takenote is awesome.

clearly you are not a Mavericks Fan For Life and do not use cyberdust

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 02:58

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chunkles posted:

Jonathan Simmons.

https://twitter.com/mynameisjohn/status/791140535394238465

please look at this dunk he made on javale mcgee

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 06:08

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MourningView posted:

I am v excited about Joe Johnson and George Hill. I am very not excited about what appears to be the Bobcat version of Diaw

George Hill will be the actual factual point guard you have been waiting for.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 06:11

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dang man it's too bad there's not any warriors posters in SAS these days

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 06:24

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the warriors are literally saying that losing this game is good because it's a "refreshing slap in the face" as though losing in the finals when you were up 3-1 and then getting poo poo on by anyone with a pulse all summer wasn't enough of a "slap in the face". Just say you sucked and move on you idiots.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 12:17

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What's the grey market service we're using this year? New league pass is loving terrible.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 13:27

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Cool Buff Man posted:

KD played well last night and he's really good on defense and I wish he was on my team even if I don't like him very much

He gets out of position a lot and then has to use his length to recover. The Spurs abused him with two bigs last night and perfectly exposed a lot of his weaknesses.

David Lee loving grabbed a jump ball rebound over him which should never happen. So that matters if you're in the rebounding = defense crowd (last night was a pretty good case for that).

He is generally pretty good though and there's few teams that will put him in the annoying positions that the Spurs did. If he has to keep guarding centers/pfs off the bench, though, this could become more of an issue.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 13:57

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Lasagna Pilot posted:

How legit are these Nerlens Noel to Warriors rumors?

who the hell would the Warriors trade back? would Nerlens Noel even help them? he's also having another (minor) knee surgery right now...

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 14:06

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ElPedro posted:

Since you want us lurkers to reply.. well why not!

Awesome opening night - loved Lebrons killer dunks and of course the Spurs beating those golden fellas.

Looking forward to following Cleveland this year and will probably keep up with Giannis (da Freak), Clipper and Spurs.

Now if only the timezone in Denmark wasn't so horrible I could watch more live games - hurray for early games in the weekend!

where are you from in Denmark? I've been noticing that the game is getting much more popular in Scandinavia/my friends are playing a lot more often. Would be cool to have some Nordic players in the league in 20 years.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 14:11

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RCarr posted:

I still hate LeBron, but god drat is he good at basketball.

What is the rule for goal tending when the ball is above the cylinder but not at the apex of the arc yet?

I thought the same thing. That really seemed like blocking a ball above the cylinder

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 14:25

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GZA Genius posted:

N: Warriors lose to the spurs at home. V: Nothing to see here, business as usual whenever the spurs play us at home

I'm more interested right now in seeing what Kerr does with his rotations. Putting Ian Clark in that early in the game was not a recipe for success

Leander Barbosa was a ridiculously good fit for them. McCaw looks like he'll be more useful than Clark.

David West is not a good fit for this team and probably not that good in general.

Pachulia was in mid-season form (not the first half where he pretends to be good)

Javale might actually be their best traditional big from a fit standpoint but he got baptized last night and will almost certainly get injured.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 15:31

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Finger rolls should be goaltendable so you have to do the shot in office basketball where you loft it way over the guy standing over the basket

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 15:51

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Lockback, just looping back to earlier: Kevin Durant had 0 contested rebounds last night. Only pulled down 1.5 a game last season. He's not a good rebounder.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:05

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Lockback posted:

I always hate the "contested Rebound" stat. Durant has rebounded well his entire career. If you think it's complete luck that he has always gotten around 7-8 boards a game from the 3 position, I am not sure what to say but at some point I think you have to admit he is good at getting in position and not needing to contest his boards.

You get a lot of rebounds as a forward by playing 35 min a game and being tall. I dont think Griffin is particularly good on the dboards. The underlying rebounding statistics are very useful in telling who actually wins rebounds which becomes considerably more important if you're a poor rebounding/small team

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:24

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Paul Zuvella posted:

Still, there is value to being 7 feet tall with long arms at SF. To say Durant is a bad rebounder is a bit disingenuous. His physical tools make him an asset on the boards even if he isn't doing dirty work down low.

Not good =/= bad, I think he's just 'ok' for a 3/4. It's not a particular asset.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:29

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Lockback posted:

I don't think he is an elite rebounder, but he is really good and the fact that other players don't contest the boards he gets shouldn't be an indictment against him.

Edit: AND I think we just lost all those cool new lurkers-turned-posters

This is a weird way to spin it.

I recorded these statistics last season and it's pretty clear that there's a good correlation between being qualitatively good at rebounding and pulling down contested rebounds. It's not like the best guys get less contested boards. The stats and the eye test match up pretty darn well.

All of the other good guys grab a lot. Giannis and MKG were the best SFs last season. Rudy Gay and LeBron shortly after. The best SG was PJ Tucker by a mile.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:41

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iamsosmrt posted:

Evan Turner.. good rebounder or elite rebounder?

Depends where he plays for your team. He's solid for a guard.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:51

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leftist heap posted:

are box scores anywhere to be found on the new nba site? when i click on the game it just takes me to the league pass replay.

the new nba site is dumb as hell I hope Lebron gets them to fix it again

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 16:57

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Lockback posted:

So I guess what is your explanation as to why he consistently rebounds near the top of his position? Luck, there are rebounds other players don't care about? I can see pointing to those stats over a short amount of time to say someone is just having the ball bounce his way, but at some point it stops becoming luck.

I'm on mobile so this is going to be a bad example, but is Russell Westbrook better at rebounding than Blake Griffin? They grab roughly the same number per game, but Griffin grabs two times as many contested boards. Rebounds are not all created equal. Empty rebounding for stars has been a thing forever.

E: RWB is still ridiculous for his position

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 17:09

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Alain Post posted:

I'm watching basketball this year IMO. Go the Blazers

Nice moves.

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 12:45

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I mean I think Adams and Ibaka's numbers really suffered last season because they were doing a lot of the dirty work for RWB and Durant to grab the ball and start the break (which makes sense) but I didn't watch enough Thunder to know if that's accurate.

# ¿ Oct 26, 2016 17:21

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