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suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Lumpy the Cook posted:

This post kind of reminds me of this one E3 UPDATE: Microsoft has announced a new model controller with bluetooth connectivity and other enhancements (including the ability to have one built with custom colors), as well as a new model of Xbox One, called the Xbox One S: as well as coming with the previously-mentioned new controller, being 40% smaller (still bigger than a PS4) and finally having its power brick internally, it will support 4K video output for streaming content and feature an UltraHD Blu-ray drive, as well as HDR color output on supported UHD TV's for certain future games such as Gears of War 4. Games won't otherwise be enhanced.

They also decided to obsolete it as fast as possible by announcing they were planning to launch an all-new console for holiday 2017 codenamed Xbox Scorpio, featuring 6 teraflops of processing power, an unbelievable 12 gigs of the right RAM, while maintaining compatibility with all Xbox One games and accessories.

That being said, Xbone is dead as far as exclusives are concerned, as Microsoft has decided to make a gaming push into Windows and appears to be intending for all future games to be released for the Windows 10 Store as well, which, to be fair, is its own type of exclusive with problems behind it, so all future "exclusives" should, via a single digital purchase, work on Windows 10, Xbox One and Xbox Scorpio, while retail titles should run on Xbox One and Xbox Scorpio. Here is the complete list of truly exclusive current content (i.e. not playable on PS4 or Windows 10), timed or otherwise, and this is likely not going to expand (it'll shrink if anything).

Crimson Dragon - Downloadable title, true exclusive
Dead Rising 3 Parody Capcom DLC (all other content is available on Steam)
FIFA 14, 15 and 16 - Exclusive access to Fifa Ultimate Team Legends (specific high-end players for the card mode of the game), also on 360
Forza Horizon 2 - Retail title with some extra DLC, sort-of exclusive (toned-down version of the game is on 360)
Forza Horizon 2 Presents Fast & Furious - Downloadable title, sort-of exclusive (toned-down version of the game is on 360)
Forza Motorsport 5 - Retail title with extra DLC and microtransactions, true exclusive
Forza Motorsport 6 - Retail title with extra DLC and microtransactions, F2P version is available on Windows 10
Halo: Master Chief Collection - Individual games are all playable on 360 (minus online play for Halo 2), Halo 1 and 2 also on PC
Halo 5: Guardians - Retail-tier title, Forge as well as ability to play custom matches will be releasing as a free package on Windows 10 in future
Powerstar Golf - Downloadable title, true exclusive
Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 - local 8-player mode exclusive, Playstation version has better resolution and other exclusive features but 4 local players max
Pro Evolution Soccer 2016 - local 8-player mode exclusive, Playstation version has better resolution and other exclusive features but 4 local players max
Raiden V - Retail-tier title, true exclusive
Rare Replay - Low-cost retail-tier title, individual games available separately on various other platforms, mostly NES, N64 and 360
Shovel Knight - Battletoads extra content (all other content is available on literally every other console released from PS3 onwards)
Sunset Overdrive - Retail-tier title with some extra DLC, true exclusive

Also on 360

Screamride
Zoo Tycoon

Kinect required games

Dance Central Spotlight (Downloadable dancing game, can use DLC from other Dance Central titles)
Disney Fantasia: Music Evolved (also on 360)
Fighter Within (Retail game, 23 on Metacritic)
Fruit Ninja Kinect 2 (Downloadable game)
Just Dance 2014 (6-player mode is exclusive to Xbox One version of the game, although the game is otherwise available on all other home consoles except the PSTV)
Shape Up (Retail workout software)
Xbox Fitness (Downloadable workout software, will be shutdown July 1st 2017)

Note: Although this thread is predominantly about Microsoft and the Xbox One, we are equal-opportunity bad-console-make-fun-of-r's. Feel free to post new lows from Sony, Nintendo or whoever in the gaming industry. There are no sacred cows. :getin:

Here's the list of future titles






There's an interesting looking indie game that's getting released first on Playstation 4 but it should get released on Xbox One right?

No. Microsoft has a "parity clause" for indie games which means they will refuse to publish an indie game on their platforms unless they get a same-day release (or released first). Indie studios don't have the resources to prepare multiple versions of their games immediately, and generally favor releasing on the better-selling Playstation platforms first. The only exceptions to this policy are if an indie game is so successful that Microsoft begs for them to come on board (think near-Minecraft levels of success), or dodging the rule by releasing a new version of the game with new content (think a GOTY edition of an indie game).


This thread is for more of the negative aspects of the Xbox and Microsoft's related practices. For actual positive discussion of Microsoft/the Xbox One or constructive discussion of technical issues you're having, you will be better off in the following thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3608847

There is no "bitching about the PS4" thread because Fame Lifeles still hasn't posted the thread. That being said, genuine problems with Sony or the PS4 can be discussed in the general PS4 thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3585608

What does Loss expert Tim Buckley think of the DisKinect?



Is the Xbox One the next Dreamcast?


"No," said Swery. "Xbone has no games" - Developer of Xbox One-exclusive game D4 (paraphrased), zero fucks given

Previous threads (thanks Wiggly Wayne DDS!):
2013-05-21 - Next Generation Xbox Reveal Discussion Thread
2013-06-10 - E3 2013 Microsoft Chat: Xbox One is shaping up as terrible anti-gamer POS
2013-06-20 - Xbox One: Out 22 Nov 2013 (kids, stop fighting)
2013-11-06 - Xbox One: the technological tumor in your living room
2013-11-19 - Xbox One: general games, device and services thread.
2013-11-19 - Microsoft Gaming: Rendering concrete is overrated, jump in the shark tank
2013-11-26 - Xbox One General Discussion: Who cares about games, let's talk about headphones!
2014-02-14 - Xbox One General Discussion: Will Titanfall bring all the boys to the yard?
2014-02-27 - Xbox One Games Discussion Thread

I don't have a list of all the GBS ones.

Favorites from the web



- http://www.somethingawful.com/news/xbox-one-underpowered/

- When White Supremacist forum Stormfront asked itself whether to get the all-American Xbox One or stoop to the Japanese made PS4, one of them had this to say:


So what is everyone's problem with the Xbox One when the Xbox 360 did so well?

There are a ton of reasons, but the shortest version is that Microsoft's actions appear to be predominantly dictated by the will of its shareholders and not of the customers or gamers, a sort of "you will buy what we provide and like it, dammit!" mentality. Initially, it was more expensive than the Playstation 4 (although stores are fire-saleing the Xbox One now to get rid of them, with free games/gift cards which can bring the console's raw cost well below the PS4's if you want what they're throwing in anyway) and is demonstrably significantly less powerful, with almost all multi-platform games performing significantly worse on the Xbox One. The console uses DDR3 RAM for the entire system, which is the memory used in budget-level $50-100 graphics cards for PC's, but has 32 megs of fast ESRAM to try and compensate. If 32 megs sounds unbelievable, you're right.


(thanks, Wheany!)

Many games have to sacrifice resolution, framerate, or graphical effects to make their games work. The system also has significant usability shortcomings even compared to the 360, such as its party system, and was even worse before they finally got around to patching in essential features like a battery indicator (seriously, you had no warning before that your controller was about to die, it would just die mid-game). Also Microsoft and their affiliates have a really bad habit of putting their foot in their mouth and demonstrating all of the worst aspects of gaming "culture".



E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

The E3 reveal was derided quite heavily for focusing the bulk of its time on the TV-related features of the system (which turned out to require an HDMI set-top box and work terribly in countries which broadcast in PAL), as well as dubious sports features less capable than what people were doing before with smart phones and/or tablets. Gaming only got briefly touched on at the end with a reveal of the next Call of Duty game, a title which ended up running significantly better on the Playstation 4, and the franchise is now developed primarily for PS4 (i.e. the one with 30-day early access to DLC) going forward.

This also doesn't touch on Microsoft's original plan to force all games to register against online servers, severely limiting the ability to trade/sell games and making the console unusable if internet connectivity was lost for longer than a 24-hour period, with the only consumer-side positive being a weird system of digitally lending games to friends that was never elaborated on. Some people out there thought this meant they could share the new Call of Duty 10 ways at $6 each because this is exactly what the only company which paywalled access to Netflix would do, but Microsoft never went into specifics. The fact that the whole Edward Snowden incident went down immediately after, revealing that Microsoft was recording all Skype calls and providing email backdoors for the NSA, didn't help make a better case for an always-online box in your living room that had a camera you weren't allowed to unplug (at the time). Further digging found this video advertising...advertisements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc

Sony, meanwhile, released the following video in response to Microsoft's always-online DRM which went viral:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

Microsoft stuck to its guns in the weeks following E3, even insulting its customer base with limited ability to access the internet like soldiers in the military:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC8FbgGnd0

When it became clear they were losing the pre-order wars almost 20:1 with the PS4, they finally relented to a return to the status quo. So to be clear, if you do end up with an Xbox One, physical and digital games work essentially the same as they did on the 360. They put the family sharing plan on hold for now. You also no longer need to have the Kinect hooked up, and most bundles sold today don't include one.

But I heard it was Sony's plan to do this too and they quickly reversed course when they saw the pushback Microsoft received.

You heard lies, not a loving chance. Even though the conference hall confirmed they received Sony's presentation material in advance with no last-minute changes, and this isn't some trivial change for which you can make a decision over lunch and throw a switch (a lot of legal details have to be arranged and this takes time), Sony is a Japanese company. In Japan, video game rental is banned, and there is a HUGE aftermarket for games, with even small towns having several stores where you can buy/sell/trade games, some of which are run by retirees with zero computer skills (even their cash register will be mechanical, since Japan is a cash-based society no one pays by card) and wouldn't get on board with a digital trade-in system (plus again, since few in Japan have cards, they'd still have to go to a store to get point cards, and hell might as well get the disc version in that case...)

Launch

At launch, even sites with a reputation for being positive about Microsoft had a lot of negative things to say about the system. Despite a $750,000 cheque from Microsoft to fund a documentary, Polygon's livestream was filled with groans and frustration as the voice commands and snapping repeatedly failed to do what they were trying to show off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbjes4_vL7Y

Dead Rising 3, one of the flagship exclusive launch titles, was bogged down by minute-long load times (despite being completely installed to the hard drive) and occasional poor performance (dipping as low as 10fps according to Digital Foundry) despite running at 720p, the same resolution as several games on the Xbox 360. Attempts to resolve these issues via patches only revealed new shortcomings in the Xbox One console, as the patches were 13 gigabytes (larger than every entire downloadable 360 game except GTA 5) and cancelling the download (like if you just wanted to play now and didn't want to get overage charges on a patch) would instead delete the game entirely without warning.





Many who got the console quickly got similarly frustrated with the console, whether they paid for it or not.





The court of popular opinion continues to turn against Microsoft, even game designers:



And the much-touted party system that was in the 360 has taken a massive step backwards on the Xbox One.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa2ngB6s3Z8

Current estimates suggest that the PS4 worldwide is outselling the Xbox One by a huge factor. English-speaking countries (especially the U.S., U.K., and Australia) appear to be the only countries where the Xbox One has any relevance at all, and even in these areas the PS4 has an undeniable commanding lead. In Japan, despite a slow start for the PS4, it is now selling nearly 30,000 units a week, while the Xbox One has sold 65,000 total. In China, Xbox One got an official head start although their console was completely locked down with a library of only about 10 state-approved games; the PS4, meanwhile, although it forces you to use a Chinese PSN account, it can play disc-based games from anywhere. Microsoft has since patched the Chinese edition console to be region-free like its foreign counterparts.

Regardless, state mandates aren't as set-in-stone as one would think over there, and grey market region-free Western consoles and games imported from Hong Kong and Taiwan have been available since their original 2013 launch. Street vendors, for what it's worth, claim the PS4 has a strong lead.

The future

Microsoft is in full damage control mode as they scramble to find ways of making the system relevant, although it's likely too little too late, and they have suddenly closed several studios such as Lionhead Studios and cancelled all of their related titles with no warning (Sony has since poached the talent from there).

While many Western-made games are still coming to it (as well as PS4), many are ending up with clearly inferior versions, with sub-1080p resolutions (including for games from traditionally Xbox-centric series like Trials Fusion) and a lack of content found on the PS4 version (such as most Ubisoft games having some extra missions for many of their games).

Although there was an initial belief the originally-mandatory Kinect pack-in would encourage development for a proper Kinect game, this hasn't manifested itself at all; Kinect Sports Rivals arrived months late and only built on people's frustrations with the Kinect (on top of the game completely missing the point of a pick up and play sports title, with the reviewers having to waste over a half-hour just to unlock the quick play feature, finally deciding they were better off sticking with the launch pack-in Wii Sports from 8 years prior).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URdvQ2j6BpE

The Kinect's unbundling (a.k.a. DisKinect) has effectively sealed its fate and it will never be more relevant than it was with the Xbox 360.

A bulleted list of issues:



  • Numerous games struggle to maintain decent framerates, even if they are running below 1080p (and many are). Many games running at 1080p cut serious corners to make it happen.


    :crafty:

  • The voice commands don't work reliably for the majority of people, and are disabled entirely in some regions including many English-speaking ones. Each region only supports one specific language (with a few exceptions supporting two like Canada) and it's not possible to configure the console to override this, so if you tell your console that you are in Germany you will only be able to play games in German and use the console/voice commands in German.
  • Territories where television is broadcast in PAL work very poorly with the TV passthrough features, with only a weak band-aid solution offered in a recent firmware update. It isn't possible to make 50 Hz transcode cleanly to 60 Hz without specialized and expensive hardware, and the console was only designed with 60 Hz NTSC signals in mind.
  • Many games have long load times, time-consuming installs, and patches that are larger than every downloadable Xbox 360 game except GTA5...which delete the game if you cancel the patch download. This isn't hyperbole, this is a thing that actually happens: if you cancel a 13 gigabyte patch download it will delete the entire game and you will have to redownload/reinstall the entire thing. At no point are you warned this will happen.
  • Numerous essential features like the ability to check the controller battery level or manage storage were only introduced in firmware updates which came months after launch. Certain promised features, such as the ability to turn an off-the-shelf retail console into a dev console, haven't materialized yet.
  • In attempting to minimize the chance of a repeat of the RROD fiasco that cost them a billion dollars last time, the console itself is large with lots of vents and empty space. Its power supply is a huge external brick which needs its own cooling fan, and the Kinect also has its own fan. There are a lot of fans in different places, which will make the engineer in you twitch with rage involuntarily.
  • They named the third Xbox the Xbox One.

So what "justifiable" reasons are there for getting an Xbox One?

Very, very little.

- Has a few streaming apps Playstation doesn't, like SlingTV for Americans (subscription-based streaming TV service), as well as MLG apps (yay).
- Disc installs and online installs are identical. If you wanted to convert a disc install to a digital purchase on PS4 you have to re-download everything while on Bone it's an instant conversion.
- Can use external drives for game storage, which is actually really nice when your game collection starts getting huge. And with how long game installs take you really don't want to have to keep redoing them.
- Can play Audio CD's.

Welcome to the shark tank!



the xbone has the wrong kind of ram, LOL! :bsdsnype:

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Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
you know the op is true when the mods move this thread to pc :tinfoil:

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

I clicked on this thread wondering if it was going to explain why people keep calling the D&D mods racist. What this thread actually ended up being is a much more constructive use of everyone's time.

Weird BIAS
Jul 5, 2007

so... guess that's it, huh? just... don't say i didn't warn you.

Sharkie posted:

AbsurdAlhazred
Ever notice how he never posts or does mod duties during the night of a full moon? What makes this really weird is that I know for a fact he was the irl inspiration for the fat vampire from Blade.

Hold on. I think there's something outside.

OK, never mind. Since I started this research I've installed floodlights and security cams. All seems clear.

Moon mod?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!


:effort:

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Some Guy TT posted:

I clicked on this thread wondering if it was going to explain why people keep calling the D&D mods racist. What this thread actually ended up being is a much more constructive use of everyone's time.

you would

heh

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

by Lowtax
Oven Wrangler

paranoid randroid posted:

and this isnt even beginning to touch on the unspeakable nature of the admins. take FactsAreUseless, for example. all i can say is that facts are most assuredly useless in the face of this mind-rending terror from the darkness between the stars.

I was just gonna say hi but dang, things are all pear shaped around here

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


man is the true monster

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Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"

quote:

AbsurdAlhazred

Ever notice how he never posts or does mod duties during the night of a full moon? What makes this really weird is that I know for a fact he was the irl inspiration for the fat vampire from Blade.

Are you telling me he's not the author of the Necronomicon?

Hmmm...I need to readjust my thoeries.

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