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Infidel Castro posted:At least now whenever Cubs fans get all doom and gloom we have a good reason to tell them to shut the gently caress up. There is no more doom and gloom. It's all over! bad boy in the boy band posted:Well I'm going to have to track down a copy of tomorrow's Tribune to frame, and also about 10 of the next Sports Illustrateds. You could order this like I did (you can get the issue and/or a framed cover.) Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:So the Blackhawks gonna blow a 3-1 lead for The Stanley Cup? They could and nobody would care! CubsWoo posted:Remember when   
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rare Magic card l00k posted:The overreliance on Bauer/Tomlin was what came back to bite the Indians in the rear end. Sending both guys out there on short rest (especially Bauer who was bad all postseason) while not being ready to pull them if trouble hit was such a bad move, and you can't do that when you're the worse team. The Cubs were the much better team and actually played to win 4 out of 7, while the Indians played to win 3 and then hope to steal a 4th. It almost worked, but it shouldn't have and it didn't. Congrats, you deserved the win. I mean it was kind of due to the whole starting rotation chaos with all the injuries. Francona did what he thought he had to do, but he overused not only Bauer and Tomlin, but Kluber (three starts in one series?!), Miller, etc., and the Cubs eventually figured out all of those guys. To an extent it was unavoidable, with the injuries to Salazar et. al. but the other factor is that the Cubs have been doing this poo poo all season long. Against any other team Cleveland would've won, but the Cubs have been notorious for going cold and then getting hot when they figure out their opponent. It's been loving agonizing to follow them, and I'm happy they finally won, but I'm happier that it's all over now. Congratulations, Cubs, but gently caress the Cubs, lol. Inspector_666 posted:Guys the Cubs won the loving World Series. Hey did you hear that Jon Lester doesn't like to throw to bases?
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New Concept Hole posted:Eh... What's next? Next up: Cubs will win the Superbowl!  I thought I might cry when they won, and I actually cried a little on multiple occasions earlier in the season just thinking about how this was actually gonna be the year, but I was with my family watching the game and was just happy to share the moment with them. I didn't cry when the Cubs won, but I cry a little when I see these stories of old people who've waited several decades to experience this moment. The_Hat posted:Coming into game 7, the Indians had scored 20 runs this World Series, and the Cubs had scored 19 runs. Which means that, after game 7, both teams scored 27 runs in the series. Literally a run differential of 0 Hey remember when we thought this game would end like 3-2 or 1-0? FIFTEEN loving RUNS! More than half the runs in the entire World Series were scored in game 7!!! TMMadman posted:Ok, let's see if I've got the new one yet. That is beautiful.
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Inspector_666 posted:Blah blah blah pace of play, I know several people were intensely into tonight's game who didn't give a single gently caress about baseball before the series. I watched the game with my parents and younger brother. My Dad's like me, an on-and-off Cubs fan over the decades, nothing hardcore. My Mom's a North-sider, just never been too into sports, and my little brother said "Cubs suck" to me when I was watching a Cubs game around early June.  Still, it was just great to be able to share this occasion with the family, regardless of how long everyone's been waiting for it.
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I like the interaction between him and the joke Theo Epstein account.  CascadeBeta posted:A co-worker of mine's son works in the same company as Bartman. Apparently he works from home and gets groceries delivered because he STILL gets harassed horrendously to this day. Hopefully that changes, because Jesus Christ the 2003 Cubs lost for so many bigger reasons than Bartman. Does he still work for Hewitt? A former co-worker's wife worked there with him, and we watched the 2003 meltdown together (which turned me off baseball for years) and after the Bartman incident he told me Steve ended up getting put on a floor that was previously unused; the whole place to himself just so he had some privacy.  b-minus1 posted:This is why the cubs are the least deserving team to win a world series. gently caress chicago The Cubs busted their asses this whole season; they were the most deserving team. Back in 2003, the meltdown was a whole team effort, but it sure looked like it at the time that Bartman interfered. He didn't really, but became a scapegoat, and after all these years I'm confident everyone else has "forgiven" him and he can finally achieve vindication instead of remaining a pariah. TMMadman posted:So, since they can give them to anyone they want, which old Cubs are sure to get World Series rings? The Red Sox gave out like 500 rings; it wouldn't surprise me if the Cubs gave out a whole lot more. Aside from retired Cubs, I'm hoping that the guys who participated this season (but where traded) got them as well: Clayton Richard, Warren, and especially Joe Nathan, the latter of whom decided to rehab from his second TJS to try to pursue that elusive championship at the end of his career. ruddiger posted:https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/794057504871346176 Uh, I clicked that and this was the first reply: https://twitter.com/shailenewoodley/status/794069229683101696  TheChaosPath posted:God the Cavs logo is terrible. It's like something an eighth-grader drew on a textbook cover. "Dude, this C looks like it's tearing rear end around my algebra book!" I'm going to make a controversial statement and say that there are far too many "C" logos in professional sports.  Thom P. Tiers posted:Meanwhile the Cardinals officially extended Matheny through 2020. Kill me. To be fair, it wasn't Matheny's fault that the Cards ran into the Cubs meat-grinder.  (Also, "Chicago meat-grinder" reminded me that I should probably re-read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.  )chilihead posted:Theo Epstein for president! https://twitter.com/theoepstein04/status/794154690682306560 Henrik Zetterberg posted:The funny thing was we let the kids stay up to watch it. After the Cubs won, my 11-year old patted me on the back and said, "well.... there's always next year." Thanks buddy. Even though you kept asking which team was pitching while reading your Minecraft book. Cubs fan here, confirming that yes indeed, there is always next year. However, um, I was under the impression that Minecraft was a video game....  RC Cola posted:Chicago Fire exists too Other Teams Matter!
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AsInHowe posted:There are pixel-style Minecraft foam swords for sale at Wrigley Field, with Cubs logos attached. I can totally understand real-life merchandise from film/game IP, like action figures and stuff, but what in the unholy gently caress does Minecraft have to do with the Cubs?!  Quest For Glory II posted:i dont want another nl central team winning a WS but the brewers havent won one yet, right? havent even been to one since 1982 Hey guys, you know how the World Series just ended like 12 hours ago? CUBS ALREADY FAVORED TO WIN 2017 WORLD SERIES  Thom P. Tiers posted:The Cubs being good has nothing to do with me not wanting him to be the manager. Yeah, but I'm saying that the manager only has so much control over how his players perform. Maddon made some boneheaded decisions that didn't bite him in the rear end in the very end because his players bailed him out; Matheny wasn't as fortunate this season but the Cardinals are always contenders. I totally understand Cards fans not liking him, but at the very least I'm trying to be sympathetic and amiable because I truly don't hate the Cards. CubsWoo posted:For 2004 at least, the Red Sox gave rings to everyone who was on the roster that year, including Brandon Puffer, a relief pitcher who was a one-game September callup who never actually appeared or threw a pitch for the team. He ended up spending a few years in jail for burglary and intent to commit sexual assault. Somebody tried to sell it on Pawn Stars a few years back but they wouldn't take it considering his reputation. Oh yeah, they'll definitely do multiple versions of the rings, I just want to see everyone recognized for their contributions towards making this happen, from all the retired Cubs to guys like Nathan and Richard who tried to help but weren't here in the end.  mastershakeman posted:the cardinals will never win another game of baseball ever. it's over for them "The Cards, they ain't gonna win no more." 
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CubsWoo posted:The way Fowler has played (a full 1.4 WAR above any other year) you have to think he'll be demanding a contract that pays him through his age 35 or 36 season for I would assume an AAV above what he got this year so you're probably going to need a contract along the lines of 5/95 or 6/110 at minimum and that also assumes he doesn't try for Heyward or Cespedes money and look for 20M+ AAV. I don't know if any of the concern about money is warranted given that a winning team (better yet, a dynasty ) is a goldmine. Anyways, I don't know about Cahill as a starter (again.) Maybe, and Z probably, but don't leave out Montgomery! Sure, that would weaken the bullpen but I still think he's more valuable as a starter.Abel Wingnut posted:anyone know where i can watch the game again? i swear i'm going to watch it like every month til the day i die How about the condensed game? http://m.mlb.com/video/v1211075283?game_pk=487637
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CubsWoo posted:Forbes saying the Cubs have tripled in value since the Ricketts family bought it for $850 million in 2009, post WS the valuation is now over $2.5 billion. Oh no, how will they pay Fowler and Arrieta and Chapman now? 
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John Wilkes Booth posted:I got back from vacation an hour ago and I've spent that time watching highlights of game 7. I hadn't gotten to see all of it but we caught parts in the hotel. It was fun to watch it with my mom and hear her swear really forcefully when Rajai hit that homerun. Check out the condensed game: http://m.mlb.com/video/v1211075283?game_pk=487637 I watched it last night, and it's cool because it contains all the action and cuts out the downtime, but they review all the important plays and show the player reaction shots. It's nostalgic if you've seen the whole game previously, but it's also eerie because there are no announcers whatsoever. Then again, that means no Joe Buck, so  Luneshot posted:I'm still kinda salty we blew a 3-1 lead but honestly seeing the reaction of all the happiest Cubs fans in the world has gone a long way to making it all okay again. I really need to keep up with baseball more, I think. Eh, it's all about getting rid of all that "curse" nonsense and just having a regular team now. Cleveland can have theirs next year for all I care; I just want to see some fun baseball! CascadeBeta posted:As someone who was turned off baseball after the 2003 Cubs collapse, I forgot how much I enjoyed pitching. There's just something about it that really grabs me. It's because there are so many different styles, different routines, so many ways to perform a task as simple as throwing a ball. You've got yer three-quarters, your sidearm, your submarine deliveries; you've got the stretch and the windup; you've got Kershaw's double leg kick, Cueto's...dancing, Chapman's diagonal leg thing and wife-choke, and Lackey's "throw and yell 'gently caress' after every pitch." It's just fun to watch them because it's the most unique position.
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Sydin posted:N: Apparently Miggy was talking poo poo about Maddon yesterday. Sydin posted:And even if they could stick Schwarbs behind the plate, trading Miggy means Schwarber doesn't get the benefit of having a veteran catcher around to help him develop. I'd say Contreras has himself a pretty firm grounding, but I don't know if it's firm enough yet to immediately turn around and start helping Schwarber. Kevlar v2.0 posted:The Cubs are so completely packed with talent, a lot of players are going to just not be good enough to start for them everyday. La Stella had an OPS of .860 and they couldn't even fit him on the 25-man roster. Soler would be starting in OF or DH for the majority of MLB teams, but he's a bench bat for the Cubs. It sucks for Montero, but it's part of being in the hyper-competitive world of Major League Baseball. Niwrad posted:He was their 3rd best catcher this year. Not sure what he expected. Especially when going up against a team like the Indians who can run. If you want to play more, don't spend most of the season hitting like poo poo and unable to throw out a runner. I like Montero, but his best days are behind him. He's a good catcher and came up clutch several times this season, but he just hasn't been hitting like he used to. With all of his strengths and despite some hitting problems from him & Heyward, the Cubs still ended up with the best possible result so you can't really complain too much. The main liability was his arm, and coupled with the fact that Cleveland liked to run there was no surprise that they needed Contreras behind the plate most of the time. We discussed as much here, except, for some reason Miguel was the only one who couldn't figure it out. I mean, it certainly couldn't have hurt to communicate it to everyone, but also if he had questions he should have spoken up.With that being said, Montero will be fine. Ross has ridden off into the sunset, so Miggy is literally the one veteran catcher. Contreras is making good progress, but it's nice to have at least a couple catchers for multiple reasons, and I wouldn't make Schwarber anything close to a regular catcher for a couple reasons. Who does that leave left? Federowicz? Miguel will be fine, and if he can maintain that hot bat from the latter part of 2016 he might get re-signed if the price is right and the market isn't overflowing (I wouldn't re-sign him for $14-15M/year though.) This is a pretty awesome Rockwell spoof. I'd actually love a larger print of it, as sort of a "Dewey Defeats Truman" callback (also from 1948, and coincidentally the newspaper was the Trib!) Rand alPaul posted:Rizzo looks like he's done this before http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-cubs/cubs-star-anthony-rizzo-twerks-his-way-beer-money-victory
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CubsWoo posted:The Fowler-Theo 'handshake agreement' either didn't exist or has just been broken, as Dex has been given a Qualifying Offer. The other Cub FA and their last salary as of right now: Did we have confirmation of the Fowler-QO gentlemen's agreement thing or was it just kind of assumed? Just like it was assumed that they'd hang onto Hammel and trade him, only to find out that that was expressly not the intent and his option was declined at his choice. CubsWoo posted:The clear answer is for Maddon to utilize his new weapon, "Wheels" Schwarber, as a Niwrad posted:That's fine but do the Cubs spend the money on the bullpen or more crazy Trump ads? All joking aside this is entirely irrelevant in less than 48 hours....
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CubsWoo posted:Man this alternate timeline stuff is creepy The beard is what turned everything around for him.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:I said for years that if the Cubs ever won the World Series, it would be a sign of the end of times. LeftistMuslimObama posted:Again, gently caress every last one of you who is even joking that a trump presidency was a "worth it" trade. I just woke up today in a world where I literally have no idea whether I'll be permitted to use public bathrooms, whether my family will be permitted to adopt children, or whether my health insurance will even be required to cover my healthcare anymore. My entire world just turned into a cloud of uncertainty. Please don't perpetuate the intense whiteness of baseball by saying a loving game's championship title is worth Donald Trump as president of the united states. Just for clarification, I'm not saying "worth it," I'm saying the Cubs win was the sign of the impending apocalypse (hence the suicide/death of all life on Earth implication.) Believe me, I'm ideologically aligned with you more than you know. Dexo posted:gently caress Jake Arrieta too For reference: https://twitter.com/JArrieta34/status/796372720015523840 TMMadman posted:Let's all just agree that Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida suck rear end. Wisconsin and especially Florida have always sucked. Pancakes posted:Illinois really only went blue because of Chicago. Cardinals fans in Illinois appear, by and large, to be Trump voters. It's always been like that though. Chicagoland is Democratic, downstate IL is Republican. An island of sanity in a sea of retardation.  I'm assuming many of the younger, non-white, non-Southern MLB players are more liberally inclined. I don't get too surprised when I learn a Texan supports Trump. DoctaFun posted:What if the Cubs just said F it and committed like 50MM/year in payroll to Chapman/Jansen/Melancon and put together a three headed monster to compliment their great offensive core while their pitching staff is still in tact? Would 50 get it done? Or would it be more like 60MM? I think they should absolutely pursue as much talent as possible (because why would you build a championship-winning team and then let it languish?) It'd be great to have Jansen and Chapman (all three of those guys are probably unnecessary) but it sounds like they aren't going to spend big on a closer. 
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Well I didn't mean IL was exclusively red everywhere except Chicago, but it's mostly true. Basically, the rural areas are red, the more urban you go the bluer. LeftistMuslimObama posted:Right, but I'm talking about now, today. People started making those jokes again. Like. Just stop it. Talk about baseball, complain about Buster Posey's gold glove, whatever. But don't make light of a tragedy for a whole bunch of people. It's a tragedy for everyone. On Earth. Some people use humor to deal with tragedy...but I'm not doing that here. It's super hosed and there's nothing I can do or say to make it better for you or any of us. I'm sorry. Popete posted:This is the Something Awful forums no? It's entirely built off poor taste. This is true, and it's what I respond with to goons who have thin skin. ScottyJSno posted:N: Twitter reports $100M...for what, 10 years? For the guy who blew the save in game 7 of the WS? 
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Niwrad posted:In a small defense of his demand, isn't the cost per win in free agency about $8 million? And he's averaged just over 2.5 WAR since becoming a full time closer 5 years ago. I just don't think that salary works for a closer, even a good one. $100M either works out to be a ridiculous amount per year for a couple years, or a lesser amount per year over several years, and as he ages his velocity will decline, reducing his effectiveness and value at the end. Plus there's the uncertainty as to how long his arm will hold out throwing 104+. ------------------------------------ I just read this article which has this quote at the end: quote:Baseball spending still is strictly limited, relative to baseball revenues, for three more seasons based on bank covenants related to the Ricketts’ family purchase of the team in late 2009. Anyone know the specifics of that? I can understand them leveraging the purchase of the team and being restricted in terms of additional expenditures until terms of the loan are fulfilled, but what are the financial constraints mentioned in that paragraph?
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Dexo posted:To be fair him blowing that save wasn't on him at all. Like Joe Maddon burned that dude hard. And then he came back out and pitched a good inning when he had absolutely nothing. He had to throw like 10 straight sliders and got people out. Oh I agree, it's just that he's still got that "blew game 7 of the WS" thing on his record. And frankly, given his controversial background, I'm glad it happened that way; he's not the Cubs hero but they pulled out the win regardless. Everybody wins! (Except Cleveland.)
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Gobias Ind. posted:Chapman got the win. I know, we all saw the game, but don't get us started on the pitcher win stat. We all know the "closer" blew the save, and the future starter got the save (lol), and the only reason the "closer" didn't get pegged for the worst loss possible for any closer's career is because he was on the team that Does Not Quit. bad boy in the boy band posted:Obviously Braves fans should start buying 2017 World Series tickets now with the young and versatile duo of RA Dickey and Bartolo Colon. Joe Nathan's a free agent now! 
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Gobias Ind. posted:Saves are just as bad of a stat as wins. No, holds/saves can be a pretty good defensive metric, they indicate how well a pitcher can do his job and avoid giving up runs, although the one wrinkle is when a pitcher gets thrown in in a situation with runners on vs. a clean inning. The win stat is more nebulous because of how it's applied, where you can get the win as a starter only if you pitch at least five innings whereas that restriction does not apply to relievers, and the starter can get a no-decision if he pitches well but the game remains scoreless until after he leaves (or another pitcher gives up the lead.) A perfect example is game 7 of the WS, where Hendricks pitched well but got pulled early, and the lead was not maintained, while Chapman gets the win despite pitching poorly (partially due to Maddon's mismanagement, admittedly.) Montgomery threw two pitches and got the save, fair enough. Who deserves the win though? Certainly not Chapman, and frankly I think Hendricks does despite throwing <5 and Chapman's performance. He started and he still pitched the most. None of this really matters, though, but I still think save/hold is more straightforward than how wins are awarded.
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Bob Saget IRL posted:Now that you mention it, I'm surprised there aren't already some sort of stats for umps like this already. Since baseball is such a nerd driven stat sport. There is, though, it's just not widely known: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/37468304/ The Zone Evaluation System specifically tracks umps' accuracy in calling pitches.
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YeahTubaMike posted:It very clearly doesn't, and I was just assuming/hoping that poster was exaggerating, like the ones who said that a Trump presidency was worth the Cubs winning the WS. Cubs Championships Matter. Seriously though, here's some actual baseball (read: Cubs) -related stuff: https://twitter.com/ArchbishopBlase/status/798505110636822528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Here's an interesting article about Mike Montgomery, (who's quickly become one of my favorite Cubs) ending with his Game 7 save. The never-before-seen angle of the final out is cool.
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