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SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Vladimir Putin posted:

Forget what have you done in 30 years. What did Obama do in 8 years? He saved the economy in 2008 but since then we still kind of stuck in limbo. She can't run as the continuation of the status quo when the status quo is lukewarm for the country and downright horrible for certain people.

The focus on "The Economy" as a abstract is a massive part of the loss of Hillary and repudiation of Obama in this election. The Economy was saved but whose economy? The banks for sure and some abstract country averages went up, meanwhile most Americans simultaneously got hosed, stayed hosed, and got to constantly hear about how the great the economy was doing.

I think Obama's personal likeability paper-overed a lot of disgust and disillusionment. Turns out people might have liked Obama, and even liked him as president, without actually liking the job he was doing

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SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

theflyingorc posted:

The issue is that policy doesn't really matter, perception of the candidate does.

Which is amazingly stupid (especially that this garbage affected supposedly-intelligent college educated leftists), but there ya go

Perception matters because the presidential election is writing a blank check for the next 4 years. You can't recall a president if they lied, there are no spot elections. Voting is fundamentally an act of trust.

Hillary had no trust so it didn't matter what she said because no one believed what she said mattered or would be what she actually did. Worse is that she was a "predictable and sane" liar. You could trust your distrust.

Trump was largely distrusted but had a core of trust and a larger periphery of people who could distrust their distrust. By being unpredictable, people could entertain that maybe he was telling the truth or maybe he would do this or that. That's was the closest thing to hope this election offered to alot of people so they took it.

SickZip
Jul 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:



clearly Clinton talked too much about how Donald Trump was a racist and not enough about jobs

Frankly, I think part of 2020 is gonna have to be a huge embrace of social media because print and TV news was just loving horrible means of reaching out to voters.

The merging of Big Data with the general poor quality of research in the social sciences is a source of endless humor.

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