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Infinotize posted:What can people do to help fix the broken DNC and put a stop, or at least lower chance to this happening again? There's always voting progressive in primaries but this is a very infrequent opportunity. Get involved locally, do this everywhere. It will carry upwards. On a political level, it is easy to abstract away and other-ize entire groups of people. You can sit at home and think “wow those Trump supporters are bunch of racists Nazis from Jupiter” but this is only a minority of cases. On TV you saw rallies, and how many rallies did you go to at all? People at rallies are naturally a step up on the excitement scale. Yet, Trump underperformed Romney in 2012 by almost a million votes, and in general, there were some 6-7 million votes not cast compared to 2016 and 16 million compared to 2008. And surveys vary in how much anyone hated either candidate and in the end Hillary did barely win the popular vote it appears, though we use an EV system (which I think is better anyway, personally and that is a long debate). Enthusiasm was extremely low on both ends, so no one showed up. Low turnout historically favors right or conservative candidates. This is also why conservatives do a good job in mid-terms and local/state elections. The far-left tend to believe they saw this coming, sure whatever. The fact is turn out matters as do votes. And if a candidate has the allure of a PTO meeting about school lunches, you can expect similar enthusiasm. So don’t assume Trump supporters are an unruly mob. Is racism/sexism a problem? Yes, for some. Does it matter to them? On some level, yes, but not as much as the betrayal they feel from the past 20+ years as manufacturing has drifted away. Ultimately, people subscribed to Maslow’s hierarchy and if their basic needs are met, they are far more approachable. When you’ve watched your town or region, built to be a company town, disappear and you sit unemployed or doing scratch-work for years, you start to have nothing to lose. Then you lash out and make bad decisions. Remember the last time you were angry and did something stupid? Imagine that for a generation. So when any politician, liberal or otherwise, rides in and tries to sway them with pure policy talk, it won’t work. You cannot rationalize someone out of a situation they did not rationalize themselves into and trying that is like politely asking a cougar to exit a crawl space. Therefore, don’t resort to name calling and de-humanizing them. It can be funny. I am guilty of this. Democrats and others have failed because they try to ride in on a horse and tell them how it is. This is partially why Clinton failed. These people are scared and the idea of “trust me I’ll make it great” is far more appealing than “we’ll grow things by a minor percentage in a pragmatic way!”. But what you have to do is not worry about all that garbage. Unless you become a billionaire, your opinion at a national level is not very important. Start local. If you live in an actual town, check into the city council or whatever local government you have. If you are in the middle of nowhere, check the county level. Find some meeting that interests you, consult the local party of your choice, and go. Listen for a while. Interact with people. Find the opposing side and hang out with them. Empathy is the only way to reach people consistently. At the local level, you’ll find decent ideas will often be accepted. No one at the 13th precinct in Wakkawakkaville cares about your views on the military industrial complex when they just want to decide the budget for the yearly city trash collection. But those decisions matter and improve where you live, and ultimately isn’t that what is most important? If local government is that boring, still check for volunteer activities that are related. You should run into the same people. Try to recruit able-bodied neighbors. Pick up trash, whatever. Teach someone to read, who never learned because they got pressed into a factory. Make everything in your area beautiful. That’s how change occurs. Consider legal weed, regardless of your stance, that’s an example of how an issue gets changed. It starts small and goes through the states. No amount of federal control can stop things like that if there is a popular consensus. Legislatures from the ground up are where the real change happens. Don’t succumb to the Great Man theory of history. Relax, take a deep breath. The US has survived worse besides the Civil War, you may not remember. Memory fades quickly. Especially with regards to labor and rights. There are incidents too numerous to name. So be mindful, be nice and try to improve everything. Violence is actually at record lows, the sun still works, and if you live in the US, you will avoid most of the calamities of climate change at their worst. Don’t hide, vote. Suggested reading – https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Art-Deal-Donald-J/dp/0399594493/ https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Stewart-Presents-America-Teachers/dp/0446691860/ https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Rational-Voter-Democracies-Policies/dp/0691138737 https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469/ For wonks – https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Twenty-Century-Thomas-Piketty/dp/067443000X/ https://www.amazon.com/ABCs-Political-Economy-Modern-Approach/dp/0745318576/
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You can start by having the party /DNC inner circle not be a bunch of sycophants jerking each other off, see DWS etc.
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Nov 10, 2016 17:11
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Look up DWS and her work on down ticket races (not much). But it seems from the outside that everyone at the DNC was rushing to leech off the sweet Clinton gravy train they expected to ride into the white house. Huge amounts of assumption and hubris, which reeked of "elitism" seems to be the status quo there based on leaks/general news articles. So instead of working to bolster the party, they haven't worked on downticket/smaller races for years. They were obsessed with money and GOTV and it got them nowhere. They scourned 40% of their base that supported Bernie by mocking them in money instances. It was like a race to see who could pat themselves on the back more for getting the 1st woman president elected in a good old boys club going back through the 1990s. I said in another thread this election was a nostalgia tour nobody wanted. Look who is in office now, no one new. Just the same old hacky fucklords. People think they got a revolution, they got 1991's shittiest hits.
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Nov 10, 2016 17:22
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Jack2142 posted:Qualifications are meaningless when being part of the establishment is bad. So true and so hilarious when you consider no one replaced anything in the GOP legislature really.
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Nov 11, 2016 11:02
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The bent of the message does not matter as much as the presentation. Showing up as political robot model 2.0 versus someone telling other politicians to gently caress off is a pretty stark comparison.
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