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| Magnus +2 or More |
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11 | 32.35% |
| Magnus +1 |
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8 | 23.53% |
| Magnus in Tie-breaks |
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4 | 11.76% |
| Karjakin in Tie-breaks |
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0 | 0% |
| Karjakin +1 |
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1 | 2.94% |
| Nuclear War |
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10 | 29.41% |
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Karjakin is essentially a robot who malfunctions briefly every game.
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Nov 16, 2016 01:49
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yeah it's just not worth it to magnus to risk a loss in order to take the risk necessary to earn a win. i suspect he'll spend 5-10 more moves trying to engineer a situation that results in an advantage and if he doesn't find it, he'll offer draw.
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Nov 16, 2016 01:52
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Eric Hansen loves MMA
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Nov 16, 2016 01:54
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Svidler's opinion of Hansen went from mensch to cro-magnon
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Nov 16, 2016 01:56
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Karjakin has started thinking again. Did he spot something dangerous?
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Nov 16, 2016 02:05
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draw agreed, but could have been agreed an hour ago
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Nov 16, 2016 02:25
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A lot of people in my twitter feed were saying 0-1 Carlsen an hour ago.
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Nov 16, 2016 02:31
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V for Vegas posted:A lot of people in my twitter feed were saying 0-1 Carlsen an hour ago. If they're not GMs, they're probably just parroting the computer eval.
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Nov 16, 2016 03:03
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V for Vegas posted:A lot of people in my twitter feed were saying 0-1 Carlsen an hour ago.
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Nov 16, 2016 03:04
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Nov 16, 2016 03:27
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So why didn't black take fxg4 in move 45? The chessbase commentary doesn't even mention the variant.
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Nov 17, 2016 11:53
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Doctor Malaver posted:So why didn't black take fxg4 in move 45? The chessbase commentary doesn't even mention the variant. I think that white can just play Ne3, and then if black tries Kh5 then Bg3 creates a fortress. Black can't take the knight because the opposite coloured bishop endgame is simply drawn. White's general plan throughout this is to deny black's king access to f5. So long as he holds that square, he can stop black from penetrating with the king.
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Nov 17, 2016 13:02
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Stream up. game just started
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Nov 17, 2016 20:01
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And we have a Giuco Piano. I wonder if this is going to be the newfangled strategy to transpose into a closed Spanish.
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Nov 17, 2016 20:03
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How the organizers check for cheating? When the player is at the restroom his team can text his iWatch or some other small device. Do they frisk players?
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Nov 17, 2016 20:17
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Doctor Malaver posted:How the organizers check for cheating? When the player is at the restroom his team can text his iWatch or some other small device. Do they frisk players? An arbiter follows them whenever they leave the board. If you're really curious, the entire rulebook this year is here: https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/regulations_match_2016.pdf
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Nov 17, 2016 20:25
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FIDE posted:The arbiter may require the player to allow his clothes, bags or other So they do frisk them. They are allowed to anyway.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:01
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Doctor Malaver posted:So they do frisk them. They are allowed to anyway. It only happens though if something is suspected or an allegation is made (such as Topalov/Danailov in the match with Kramnik). I doubt it is something to seriously worry about in a WC match.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:10
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Why did Carlsen seemingly throw away his bishop? As you probably understand, I'm no chess master.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:11
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Xabi posted:Why did Carlsen seemingly throw away his bishop? As you probably understand, I'm no chess master. If he played Nxe4 instead, black had ...d5 to fork the knight and bishop, getting one of those anyway. By playing Bxf7 instead, he still ends up in the same position materially but leaves Karjakin's king a bit more exposed, and you can see the potential results of that from svidler and hansen's analysis. E: Also, his isolated d pawn doesn't have to be on an open file this way.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:14
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Xabi posted:Why did Carlsen seemingly throw away his bishop? As you probably understand, I'm no chess master. It grabs back a pawn and allows the capture of the N on e4 while avoiding the d5 fork if you played Nxe4 instead.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:15
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Doctor Malaver posted:How the organizers check for cheating? When the player is at the restroom his team can text his iWatch or some other small device. Do they frisk players? Are they even allowed to bring electronic devices into the playing area?
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Nov 17, 2016 21:25
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Elyv and vyshka: Ah, well, obviously. Thank you!
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Nov 17, 2016 21:29
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gret posted:Are they even allowed to bring electronic devices into the playing area? No. They go through a security check 10 min before each game, including making sure no cell phones etc. are brought into the playing area.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:30
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Doctor Malaver posted:So they do frisk them. They are allowed to anyway. Likely cheater Borislav Ivanov, famously, was willing to strip everything except for his socks. He claimed that his feet smelled too bad for him to take off his socks.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:38
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I've mostly not paid attention to this game(or the others) because work. Is this the first time where Karjakin is ahead? Not winning necessarily, but ahead?
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Nov 17, 2016 22:24
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Elyv posted:I've mostly not paid attention to this game(or the others) because work. Is this the first time where Karjakin is ahead? Not winning necessarily, but ahead? It's certainly the best position he's had.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:30
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This game has gotten pretty wild in the stumble towards move 40. Were the players reversed I would be very confident about black's chances but here? Not as much.
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Nov 17, 2016 23:44
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Is there a gentleman's agreement that you help each other get to move 40 and the extra time? Also, what happens if you get over time? Does a ref come over and start toppling over your king?
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Nov 17, 2016 23:54
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notaspy posted:Also, what happens if you get over time? Does a ref come over and start toppling over your king? Basically, yes. When the flag falls you lose instantly in almost all cases.
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Nov 17, 2016 23:58
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notaspy posted:Is there a gentleman's agreement that you help each other get to move 40 and the extra time? There isn't a gentleman's agreement as such, but both players will play towards known, safe lines where they're super confident they're not missing anything. If only one player is in time trouble, the player who has a lot of time will probably specifically try to play complicated, unclear lines just to put pressure on the player in zeitnot. And yes, if your time expires, the lead official will step in and end the game. If you are a mortal and in a tournament where every game does not have its own referee, then you have to claim the win yourself.
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Nov 18, 2016 00:01
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questionable move 41. Kg2 for Carlsen, is this finally happening?!!
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Nov 18, 2016 00:04
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Hand Knit posted:And yes, if your time expires, the lead official will step in and end the game. If you are a mortal and in a tournament where every game does not have its own referee, then you have to claim the win yourself. When I played in tournaments, I was under the impression that if your time ran out and the position is a draw no matter where the pieces are(say, K+B vs K), the game would still be declared a draw. Was that actually ever the case? It never came up for me
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Nov 18, 2016 00:13
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Elyv posted:When I played in tournaments, I was under the impression that if your time ran out and the position is a draw no matter where the pieces are(say, K+B vs K), the game would still be declared a draw. Was that actually ever the case? It never came up for me The strict rule is that the player who still has time left has to be able to win "by normal means." What this means is not entirely clear, and is at times subject to interpretation. K+B v K is always a draw because it is not possible for there to be checkmate. I have had K+P+P and run out of time against K+B, and initially had the official award a win to K+B because it was possible for me to lose by helpmate. I've also had K+B+P called a draw against K+R+(oc)B+P because the pawn was blockaded.
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Nov 18, 2016 00:23
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I wonder what the psychological effect on Carlsen would be if he lost this after two near wins.
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Nov 18, 2016 00:26
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Or the Russian fella giving it his all, just about holding on and now the master is about to beat him black and blue (I know nothing). Should Carlsen pull back a bit and let Karjakin come to him? Karjakin is good at defending but is he good at attacking?
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Nov 18, 2016 08:57
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notaspy posted:Or the Russian fella giving it his all, just about holding on and now the master is about to beat him black and blue (I know nothing). Let's not forget Carlsen is quite the defender himself. But in this match it's on him to get the first point. Karjakin would love to just draw every day, as getting to tiebreaks gets him a higher guaranteed cut of the purse  and he's a pretty good Rapid/Blitz player and may have a better chance at actually winning in tiebreaks.
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Nov 18, 2016 16:35
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Karjakin didn't seem very good at attacking yesterday, but you still don't want to just let him attack. Hard to win off the back foot.
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Nov 18, 2016 16:45
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Game 6
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Nov 18, 2016 20:24
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What a sharp game that is now clearly a draw.
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