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Still not much debate going on here - I suspect people are out for the weekend, so I will give people until tomorrow to make a decision. So I will set the deadline at 23:00 GMT / 18:00 EST tomorrow 5th December for  Syndicate actions, get some kind of action in by then or count as passing.
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Fire the shaded event
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Dec 5, 2016 03:55
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Welp, the Syndicate will now always be the government's bitch.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:03
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As a proud bitch, I'm insulted that you would compare my people to the Syndicate's toothless cowardice.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:21
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Well, I'm still on the "15 resources or fire the unshaded event" train. I would defer to the others in a tie, which in the current situation means firing the shaded event, but that's still my vote. Just throwing that out there.
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Dec 5, 2016 18:24
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Syndicate if you fire the shaded event I will make it my life's mission to personally close every single casino you guys own and I won't give a gently caress if the DR and 26 July win the game. The government protects you guys directly and either taking 15 money or firing the shaded event directly fucks you over because we can't protect you as well. I am being honest about the fact that I will throw the game if you gently caress us over because the government in this game is already very unlikely to succeed and any enmity between us will sink us both. I have experience with games where the government and syndicate hosed each other over early and it is not loving pretty.
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Dec 5, 2016 20:21
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Tekopo posted:Syndicate if you fire the shaded event I will make it my life's mission to personally close every single casino you guys own and I won't give a gently caress if the DR and 26 July win the game. The government protects you guys directly and either taking 15 money or firing the shaded event directly fucks you over because we can't protect you as well. I am being honest about the fact that I will throw the game if you gently caress us over because the government in this game is already very unlikely to succeed and any enmity between us will sink us both. I have experience with games where the government and syndicate hosed each other over early and it is not loving pretty. 
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Dec 5, 2016 20:25
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this is great
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Dec 5, 2016 20:27
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:The shaded event is the one that's good for you  and I meant the unshaded event. Okay, carry on without issue.
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Dec 5, 2016 20:36
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Cuba libre is backwards to most coin games, unshaded is good for insurgents, shaded is good for government. I am assuming tekopo is referring to the "move us aid down 1" option which is the unshaded half. Frankenfreak , would really like you to chime in here to break this deadlock in case your compatriots stay at each others throats.
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Dec 5, 2016 20:40
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HannibalBarca posted:this is great
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Dec 5, 2016 20:48
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https://youtu.be/1sONfxPCTU0
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Dec 5, 2016 20:59
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Tekopo posted:I didn't read the new page I want the government to put a price on that.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:06
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I'm on board with a plan that gets us profit.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:08
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frankenfreak posted:Tekopo, there's still the difference between firing the shaded event and not firing it + blocking you from firing it. You can make do at the current level, but improving the alliance obviously makes things easier for you.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:36
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Tekopo posted:I think a price was named by one of my colleagues. I just don't want to see a situation where we are loving each other over for no reason.  For 5 resources, we'll make sure the Ambassador will continue to back the dictator.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:43
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I can live with that. So that should be unanimous support for firing the shaded event in exchange for 5 resources from the Government.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:45
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Phoneposting so can't update yet - keen to move on so if any  Government players have an objection to giving the syndicate 5 cubabucks pipe up now, or the transfers happens and Syndicate fires the shaded event when I get home in a few hours.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:56
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Do our job for us, says the Government. Bark bark, agrees the syndicate.  FFS. At least open a casino or something and make them fire their own drat event.
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Dec 5, 2016 21:59
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:The shaded event is the one that's good for you I Imagine Tek frothing at the mouth and getting things confused and it's great. 
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Dec 5, 2016 22:00
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Gutter Owl posted:Do our job for us, says the Government. You had your chance to pay, you know. You had 22 resources between the two of you.
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Dec 5, 2016 22:01
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TheMcD posted:You had your chance to pay, you know. You had 22 resources between the two of you. I'm just saying, $5 to given them ~ $25 PLUS another prop round worth of airstrikes without even sacrificing their action this turn? Seems like a screaming deal.
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Dec 5, 2016 22:21
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Gutter Owl posted:I'm just saying, $5 to given them ~ $25 PLUS another prop round worth of airstrikes without even sacrificing their action this turn? Seems like a screaming deal. Hey, it's not like I didn't try for more, and what I got in return was "you do that and we'll basically throw the game just to gently caress your poo poo".
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Dec 5, 2016 22:22
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Gutter Owl posted:Do our job for us, says the Government.  e: Without the pressure of a deadline and other people waiting their turn in this slow medium, I'd have pushed for a more involved discussion and a slightly different result. frankenfreak fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Dec 5, 2016 22:25
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The issue is that the government is still kind of powerful right now. If this had come up after another prop round you probably would have gotten a higher price. And they can absolutely wreck the syndicate's poo poo right now.
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Dec 5, 2016 22:26
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TheMcD posted:Hey, it's not like I didn't try for more, and what I got in return was "you do that and we'll basically throw the game just to gently caress your poo poo". In other news, this LP made me finally buy the game. I'd been waffling on it for almost a year and now that I'm finally playing it I'm totally loving this poo poo. I need more!
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Dec 5, 2016 22:27
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I have no objection to a transfer of 5 as Syndicate takes the event. The demand for 15 resources would have put an unfortunate strain on our eternal friendship, I think.
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Dec 5, 2016 23:14
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Turn 5.2 Syndicate play the event Ambassador Smith. US Alliance improves to Firm (all Government actions cost 2). Aid increases to 14. Syndicate gain 7 resources, plus Government gives Syndicate an additional 5 resources. Government now has 22 resources, Syndicate has 21. In order to assess the ongoing situation in Cuba, the State Department appoints Earl Smith as ambassador to the island and demands a report on the situation. With numerous ties to American mob interests on the island, and suitable 'greasing' from the coffers of the Batista government, Ambassador Smith successfully convinces a wary US government that all is well on Cuba and that Cuba should enjoy the full financial support of the United States.  Current Card  Earl Smith was a businessman with investments in Cuba who became the US Ambassador in 1957 even though he did not speak Spanish. Smith pushed constantly for increased military aid to Batista and believed that the 26 July Movement was a Communist insurgency. He came to believe that those who opposed him in the State Department were friendly to Communism. Next Card  Government to act! Choose one of the following:- Operations & Special Activity - Pass Deadline for action is 22:26 GMT / 17:26 EST Tues 6th December.
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Dec 5, 2016 23:33
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Alright, government. Ideally we want to get Havana back to Active Support but if we do that using a train operation, it is very easy for the DR/26 JUL to get a terror in there. I suggest we therefore sweep the forces in Havana and La Habana, and then airstrike either a DR piece in La Habana or the lone 26 JUL in Pinal del Rio.
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Dec 5, 2016 23:43
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Tekopo posted:Alright, government. Ideally we want to get Havana back to Active Support but if we do that using a train operation, it is very easy for the DR/26 JUL to get a terror in there. I suggest we therefore sweep the forces in Havana and La Habana, and then airstrike either a DR piece in La Habana or the lone 26 JUL in Pinal del Rio. Agreed. The Train everywhere option is tempting though, given that we will have plenty of chances to use newly trained cubes.
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Dec 6, 2016 03:45
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I agree we should sweep the forces in Havana and La Habana, and then airstrike the lone 26 JUL in Pinal del Rio.
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Dec 6, 2016 04:01
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How many troops do you want to move into La Habana, government players? No update till I get home from work btw.
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Dec 6, 2016 10:58
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Three so that all of the DR units are revealed.
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Turn 6.1 Government Sweep 3 troops into La Habana and Sweep in place in Havana. Government Air Strike M26 guerrilla in Pinar del Rio. Government now have 18 resources. La Habana is now Uncontrolled, DR Control & Bases is now 3. Eager to prove their credentials to the new ambassador and their patrons across the Florida Straits, the government embarks on a series of sweeps of Havana city and the surrounding countryside. To the west, M26 guerrillas fresh from their terror campaign are scattered in a campaign of bombing raids by Cuban B-26's.  Current Card Raúl’s fiancé Vilma Espín Guillois was a talented organizer and recruiter. There is circumstantial evidence that she was involved in the death of 26July organizer (and Castro rival) Frank País. Next Card   M26 to act! Choose one of the following:- Event - Operations & Special Activity - Operations only - Pass Deadline for action is 19:08 GMT / 14:08 EST Tues 7th December.
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Dec 6, 2016 20:08
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lamo that card timing
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Dec 6, 2016 20:20
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Zikan posted:lamo that card timing There are optional rules for changing the leader of the Cuban government if you take the event on the cards Coup, Election and Batista Flees, which alter the bonuses & penalties the Government has. I felt like the base game has enough CHAOS REIGNS though without adding more into the mix. Also Batista in real life fled the country with $300 million the minute his army lost its first actual battle, so it's not unimaginable that the event would come up this early.
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Dec 6, 2016 20:33
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I'd like to see what my allies have to say.
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Dec 7, 2016 01:04
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Setting Santiago de Cuba to Active Opposition would be a crushing blow to the Government, since they need it all the way at Active Support in order to win. The question is whether M26 needs an op more right now.
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Dec 7, 2016 01:19
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Comrades, the people are ready to heed our call. Let us raise the rallying cry across the countryside, from Sierra Maestra to Matanzas! In Las Villas, even some of the police are ready to abandon the tyrant.
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The good people of Santiago de Cuba, seeing the fragility of Batista's grip on the country and the bare-faced imperialism of the United States in protecting criminal interests, resolved to throw off their oppressors and join with those who sought a free Cuba.
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